Dumbass Patriot dopes making life hard on themselves again. Let's trade the only DT we had on roster that could take on a block. The only way this would make any kind of sense is if they have another trade in works. Good move by Cowboys.

Football is a simple game. Its the guru's who make it hard.

Let's see those fucking Patriots douchebags act like smart asses after that ass whipping. Davis needs to put all of them on notice. He should fire that POS offensive line coach and not let him on the plane. His job was to take a shit group and turn them into something approaching average instead he took a shit group and somehow made them way shittier. Nice job you bald mfer.

That was brutal. They have too much talent on offense to have been bageled like that. My team needed this win but I didn’t expect that blowout.

I was expecting a shootout but we got behind early then the offensive line was exposed more than usual. It was over at that point. Our DC is dogshit too. He's another one of these idiots that thinks he's re-inventing the game. I was actually expecting a loss because our defense is so awful.

Every game for rest of season is going to be an away game so I hope Davis enjoys watching his new stadium get taken over. The Patriots bastards have taken the air out of the fanbase...even before the season started. Watching their press conferences is brutal. I can understand the contempt for Raiders media they're garbage except for maybe 1 or 2 guys...but they won't even answer the few good questions without sounding like complete douchebags. Not what you want to hear after a bad loss...or losses.

Not even close to good enough. Bricillo needs to be fired then we'll know you're taking this seriously.

No you're lying. This team is considerably worse at defensive line, offensive line, and secondary than last year so nice going dipshit.

They traded Hankins last week not in offseason so no. They saw they couldn't hold up inside and traded the only guy they had. They are overconfident for sure but they also don't know what they're doing.

McDaniels isn't very smart. They force fed Adams in the first half and had a HUGE lead because of it. They threw 1 pass to Adams in the 2nd half and lost the lead. Throwing the ball to Adams is a good thing. Not throwing the ball to Adams is a stupid thing.

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GO BEARS!!!

He knows he's been had and isn't doing anything about it. He told them no rebuild then they dismantled the offensive and interior defensive line and secondary. If he at least launched the idiot oline coach he'd gain back a small measure of respect. We could have had Harbaugh, Fangio, and Dodds as GM. Davis is lucky its Colts coming to town...instead of taking over stadium there will be 15,000 no-shows.

Why they gave McDaniels long term money instead of bringing back Biasacci on much shorter money and terms remains beyond me.

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To be fair Bisaccia didn't do anything last season except look confused when it was time to throw red flag. Gus Bradley needed to run the defense and Cable and Olson (who was a quality control guy with Gruden) were running the offense. More than anything last year was a credit to the leaders on the team. That was a good roster with a lot of leaders. A lot of those guys like Jefferson, Heyward, Yannick, and KJ Wright are gone.

If they would have kept Bisaccia as an overseer type guy I imagine Bradley would have stayed which would have been fine. I'm not sure who Bisaccia could of got to run the offense though. I wouldn't have liked it if Olson was named OC. I would have been fine with Mayock returning he got a lot of unfair criticism. I guess all things considered it would have been better than what we have but Harbaugh should of been option #1. I don't know why Davis was so infatuated with McDaniels when he knew Harbaugh and Dodds from their time with the Raiders.

I think it might be cheaper to launch these guys and take the hit. Next season will be ugly as far as ticket sales if they keep these guys around. Get rid of all of them too don't keep any of them. This Ziegler guy needs to go too.

He really is Kathy Geiss from 30 Rock.

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One of their guys. They couldn't get Ngakoue out of town fast enough. Ziegler says he's been great and its the other guys that need to step up so awesome signing by me.

RAIDERS!!!

Josh McDaniel has lost his team already.

Not good.

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How broken are the Raiders? Josh McDaniels may be the only one safe right now. That's how broken
Charles Robinson
NFL columnist
Mon, November 14, 2022

Josh McDaniels was outlining his path forward with the Las Vegas Raiders, his conversation with a camp visitor kept circling back to a word. Humbling.

The 12-year expanse since his collapse with the Denver Broncos? Humbling. Realizing all the things he had mishandled during his first foray as a head coach? Humbling. Recognizing that he didn’t have to try and replicate the Bill Belichick experience? Having Mark Davis put the future of the Raiders completely in his hands?

Humbling, on all counts.

Four months later, humbling has devolved into humiliating. The Raiders are now 2-7 and McDaniels just suffered what is likely the worst loss of the 24 on his head coaching résumé. This particular defeat coming at the hands of the spiraling Indianapolis Colts, who rolled out Jeff Saturday as their leading man — despite having no coaching experience at the highest levels of football — and still managed to knock off the Raiders.

This moment is something lower and different than anything before it. It's an inflection point worse than the 3-9 record McDaniels had in 2010, which ultimately got him fired during the season with the Broncos. At least in that failure, the head coaches he faced across the field all had legitimate résumés that ushered them onto the sideline. They had weeks or months or years of experience to prepare for McDaniels.

But Jeff Saturday? He was hired six days before he faced McDaniels and the Raiders. On Tuesday, he didn’t know who his offensive play-caller or starting quarterback would be. Yet he took a wrecked offense and outgained McDaniels’ unit 415 yards to 309 while looking remarkably competent, with an offensive line that couldn’t protect and a fading quarterback in Matt Ryan who had been benched weeks ago.

The loss was so devastating and frustrating that starting quarterback Derek Carr, a Raider to his core, mustered a postgame media conference essentially through tears. All while teetering back and forth on his feet and seemingly indicating that not everyone in the organization seemed to care about how a playoff roster one season ago had fallen into total disrepair and collapse.

“I’m sorry for being emotional,” Carr said. “I’m just pissed off. Some of the things that a lot of us try to do just to practice, what we put our bodies through just to sleep at night, and for that to be the result of all that effort? It pisses me off. It pisses a lot of guys off. It’s hard knowing what some guys are doing, like I said, just to practice, what they’re putting in their body just to sleep at night. Like, just so we can be there for each other. And I wish everybody in that room felt the same way about this place. And as a leader that pisses me off, if I’m being honest.”


Carr should be pissed off. Because when it comes to the four cornerstones of a football team (owner, general manager, head coach and starting quarterback), he’s unquestionably the most vulnerable piece as this all goes off the rails. Team owner Mark Davis can’t be fired. General manager Dave Ziegler shouldn’t be fired. And McDaniels, because of the money still owed on his contract and the cash-poor ownership, is almost certainly not getting the axe after only one season.

That means when the blame all comes down for this, it’s going in predictable directions whether it’s deserved or not: defensive coordinator Patrick Graham and Carr, whose horribly done three-year extension from last offseason left the Raiders with the ability to exit the deal after one year and a dead cap hit of only $5.6 million.

That number makes Carr ripe for an offseason trade in a market that should be interested. Because he’s not the primary problem here. What is? Well, if we’re being fair, part of what’s happening now is injuries. Part of it is a roster that should have had far more core talent in place if not for so many disastrous drafts of the past few seasons. But an undeniable part of this is also McDaniels having sold himself — not to mention the franchise owner and the fan base — on this season being a pivot rather than a moderate rebuild.

The offensive line was going to be an issue all season long. That was understood and grudgingly accepted once reality sank in during training camp. But so many other parts of this team should have been better, especially after trading for Davante Adams and signing Chandler Jones. Yet the offense was too fragile to overcome wideout Hunter Renfrow and tight end Darren Waller never being right. The defense has lacked chemistry. The coaching and leadership has never been able to get over the hump in close games, losing six by a touchdown or less.

If this had been sold as something that was going to be a re-tooling, that might be acceptable. But it wasn’t. And in the end, it looks like McDaniels hasn’t been able to win games by replicating the razor-thin percentage points of advantage that often kept New England ahead of opponents. It's a problem because while it made sense to augment the Patriots' design in some ways in his second shot at a head coaching job, one of the traits that never should have fallen short is those detail-oriented advantages. You just don’t see that in this Raiders start.

So what does all this mean now? Well, it means a numbers game is coming. It means that the 31-year-old Carr and the two remaining years of his contract don’t make sense if 2-7 ultimately translates into 4-13 and a top-five draft pick. It means that the larger rebuild that should have happened last offseason now needs to begin in earnest. That means playing the young players who might have a shot of sticking around, figuring out which veterans and salaries can be shouldered through the transition, and lining up the handful of destinations that make sense for Carr when it comes time to trade him after the season.

Is all of that ideal? No. Is it fair to Carr or Adams? Absolutely not. But it’s reality. The Raiders are broken. The record and the wavering disappointment of the quarterback says as much. And firing the head coach after one season is entirely unlikely, no matter how much that upsets the fan base.

McDaniels is humbled and humiliated and here for a longer haul than nine games. The sooner the Raiders come to grips with that, the easier it will be to solve the multitude of problems that remain with him moving forward.

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Wonder if the poor play is simply the result of regression to the mean more than anything else. Last year these guys scored on average 22 and gave up 25. This year it's almost the same thing: https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/best-p ... fl-in-2022

Last year they had a total point differential of -65; this year the differential is in the negative 20s, suggesting the games are actually closer this year. Given this I don't know if it's a huge "collapse" or anything - things are just not going their way. Waller and Renfrow being hurt obviously doesn't help either.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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This seems like a landing place for Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or Sam Darnold during a rebuild next year. The veneer of a starter with the money of a backup.

It's just sad. The Raiders were my AFC team through probably the end of the Marcus Allen days, a remnant of not growing up with cable TV and thus watching a lot of 3pm Sunday games on NBC with either Charlie Jones or Dick Enberg doing PBP, before sitting down to Sunday dinner. Add in John Madden and some of the stars of the Super Bowl teams. Jim Plunkett off the scrap heap. And so on.

I haven't watched a Sunday Raiders game in a few years, although when Musburger was doing their radio I would listen to a quarter here and there on XM while running Sunday errands. It's just too sad.

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Good to see Charles leno still plays turnstile well.

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No. Last year we lost HC and OC and one of their most important offensive weapons then eventually righted ship but still didn't play to potential with Cable and Olson trying to run offense. New regime in their arrogance and incompetence felt they needed to make changes and fucked everything up and started tanking after KC game.

Yep...they knew they had a team ready to win and they fucked it up. Now they're trying to cover their ass. Last week they released Abram and Ferrell was a healthy scratch trying to send message its not our fault its Gruden's. Ferrell has the same amount of sacks as your 51 million dollar man Chandler Jones and he's better vs. the run you stupid mfers.

Delusional Broncos fans thought he shut Adams down last game (he didn't) and he would do same this week.

Only thing missing was a tunnel to run in to and an Oklahoma linebacker to run over.

The one loss was this season vs. Arizona when he drove team down to kick winning FG and Renfrow fumbled.

The 12 needs to do better Seattle radio was saying it was close to 50/50. It was nice to see I was wondering what it would be like when I go out for Patriots and 49ers. I was worried we'd get taken over but I don't think that will be the case.

whenever they play each other now it makes me miss the old nfl with their rivalry. seahawks/raiders was fun to watch on a late afternoon.

The Bo Jackson game was one of the first games I remember watching. I was 6 and I can still remember the power going out after a white Ford pickup knocked over a utility pole a few hours before the game. Me and dad went down to see what happened and I remember waiting for power to come back before game. It came back on about 30 minutes before game time.

PFF is only good for a laugh they're so inept but a lot of voters use it when they vote. Their grader for the Raiders is so far off from the others its cost Crosby 2 DPOW this season. The AFC OPOW doesn't even grade a 90 and Crosby who wrecked the game doesn't even grade in the high 70s.