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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.

I think he’s a very good college player but I wouldn’t want to spend a pick on him. He reminds me of Ian Book a little, albeit a lot smaller and with much better weapons.



Better arm, quicker release.

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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.

I think he’s a very good college player but I wouldn’t want to spend a pick on him. He reminds me of Ian Book a little, albeit a lot smaller and with much better weapons.



Better arm, quicker release.

Disagree on the release. That was never an issue in college with Book. Both have pretty weak arms. Book is taller and has 20+ pounds on Bennett (and Book was considered small when he was in the draft).

Also Book sucks in the NFL.

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Bennett will be an undrafted QB who might make a practice squad, then go to a USFL team if one plays in Georgia and finally is on a college coaching staff within 3 years. He has no pro level talent.

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Bennett will be an undrafted QB who might make a practice squad, then go to a USFL team if one plays in Georgia and finally is on a college coaching staff within 3 years. He has no pro level talent.

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I didn't see anything by Stetson Bennett that indicates he's any kind of an NFL QB

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He appears to be a smart kid and he has a lot of dog in him. There is a place for someone like that in the NFL. He's beaten and outplayed a lot of great prospects in big games.

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Bennett will be an undrafted QB who might make a practice squad, then go to a USFL team if one plays in Georgia and finally is on a college coaching staff within 3 years. He has no pro level talent.

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I didn't see anything by Stetson Bennett that indicates he's any kind of an NFL QB


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He appears to be a smart kid and he has a lot of dog in him. There is a place for someone like that in the NFL. .


There is. The coaching booth

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He appears to be a smart kid and he has a lot of dog in him. There is a place for someone like that in the NFL. He's beaten and outplayed a lot of great prospects in big games.

He’s also like 5’9”, 180lbs and has never been on the field without a massive talent advantage to work with.

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He appears to be a smart kid and he has a lot of dog in him. There is a place for someone like that in the NFL. He's beaten and outplayed a lot of great prospects in big games.


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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.


The Bears should use a 4th rounder on a backup QB?


How many 4th rounders are with the team after 3 years? 50%, I'd guess that's about it.

I don't think Bennett develops into anything, he's probably just as worthless as any other 4th rounder you might take. But yeah, if he's a dependable NFL backup for a decade, that's more longevity than some MILB you'll take in the 4th round.

To Nas point, the Commanders intentionally took a backup in Kirk Cousins. I'm not saying Cousins is going into the HOF, but he's better than any QB the Bears have had maybe ever.


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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.


The Bears should use a 4th rounder on a backup QB?


How many 4th rounders are with the team after 3 years? 50%, I'd guess that's about it.

I don't think Bennett develops into anything, he's probably just as worthless as any other 4th rounder you might take. But yeah, if he's a dependable NFL backup for a decade, that's more longevity than some MILB you'll take in the 4th round.

To Nas point, the Commanders intentionally took a backup in Kirk Cousins. I'm not saying Cousins is going into the HOF, but he's better than any QB the Bears have had maybe ever.


There is no maybe. He's an elite quarterback if the game starts before 3 pm.

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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.


The Bears should use a 4th rounder on a backup QB?


How many 4th rounders are with the team after 3 years? 50%, I'd guess that's about it.

I don't think Bennett develops into anything, he's probably just as worthless as any other 4th rounder you might take. But yeah, if he's a dependable NFL backup for a decade, that's more longevity than some MILB you'll take in the 4th round.

To Nas point, the Commanders intentionally took a backup in Kirk Cousins. I'm not saying Cousins is going into the HOF, but he's better than any QB the Bears have had maybe ever.


There is no maybe. He's an elite quarterback if the game starts before 3 pm.

Its ridiculous how much better Fields is going to have to get to have the career of Kirk " he sucks" Cousins

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One Post wrote:
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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.


The Bears should use a 4th rounder on a backup QB?


How many 4th rounders are with the team after 3 years? 50%, I'd guess that's about it.

I don't think Bennett develops into anything, he's probably just as worthless as any other 4th rounder you might take. But yeah, if he's a dependable NFL backup for a decade, that's more longevity than some MILB you'll take in the 4th round.

To Nas point, the Commanders intentionally took a backup in Kirk Cousins. I'm not saying Cousins is going into the HOF, but he's better than any QB the Bears have had maybe ever.

I think he'll get drafted... and to your point 4th or 5th round wouldn't surprise me. I just don't want that team to be the Bears. That's not a good selection.

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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.


The Bears should use a 4th rounder on a backup QB?


How many 4th rounders are with the team after 3 years? 50%, I'd guess that's about it.

I don't think Bennett develops into anything, he's probably just as worthless as any other 4th rounder you might take. But yeah, if he's a dependable NFL backup for a decade, that's more longevity than some MILB you'll take in the 4th round.

To Nas point, the Commanders intentionally took a backup in Kirk Cousins. I'm not saying Cousins is going into the HOF, but he's better than any QB the Bears have had maybe ever.


I'll stop you there. Bennet is no where near the pro prospect of Cousins.


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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.

I think he’s a very good college player but I wouldn’t want to spend a pick on him. He reminds me of Ian Book a little, albeit a lot smaller and with much better weapons.



Better arm, quicker release.

Disagree on the release. That was never an issue in college with Book. Both have pretty weak arms. Book is taller and has 20+ pounds on Bennett (and Book was considered small when he was in the draft).

Also Book sucks in the NFL.


It was a problem for Book in college.

From his NFL Scouting Report...

Carries ball low in the pocket and throws with a windup.
Lacks arm strength to make all the pro throws.
Will struggle to zip it between linebacker and safety.
Completion totals were abysmal outside the numbers.

Bennett

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Mobility and athleticism
Pocket poise and navigation
Experience and toughness
Off-platform throwing ability
Ability to distribute
Consistent mechanical rotation
Quick release

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.

I think he’s a very good college player but I wouldn’t want to spend a pick on him. He reminds me of Ian Book a little, albeit a lot smaller and with much better weapons.



Better arm, quicker release.

Disagree on the release. That was never an issue in college with Book. Both have pretty weak arms. Book is taller and has 20+ pounds on Bennett (and Book was considered small when he was in the draft).

Also Book sucks in the NFL.


It was a problem for Book in college.

From his NFL Scouting Report...

Carries ball low in the pocket and throws with a windup.
Lacks arm strength to make all the pro throws.
Will struggle to zip it between linebacker and safety.
Completion totals were abysmal outside the numbers.

Bennett

Strengths
Mobility and athleticism
Pocket poise and navigation
Experience and toughness
Off-platform throwing ability
Ability to distribute
Consistent mechanical rotation
Quick release

That lists quick release as a strength.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.

I think he’s a very good college player but I wouldn’t want to spend a pick on him. He reminds me of Ian Book a little, albeit a lot smaller and with much better weapons.



Better arm, quicker release.

Disagree on the release. That was never an issue in college with Book. Both have pretty weak arms. Book is taller and has 20+ pounds on Bennett (and Book was considered small when he was in the draft).

Also Book sucks in the NFL.


It was a problem for Book in college.

From his NFL Scouting Report...

Carries ball low in the pocket and throws with a windup.
Lacks arm strength to make all the pro throws.
Will struggle to zip it between linebacker and safety.
Completion totals were abysmal outside the numbers.

Bennett

Strengths
Mobility and athleticism
Pocket poise and navigation
Experience and toughness
Off-platform throwing ability
Ability to distribute
Consistent mechanical rotation
Quick release

That lists quick release as a strength.


Guys with a wind up don't have a quick release.

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That lists quick release as a strength.


Guys with a wind up don't have a quick release.

Whoever wrote that scouting report seems to disagree.

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OK. I'm back with my new GM move

trade Fields to the Colts. Talk them into including Bruckner for the salary relief. Take Young #1, Will Anderson #4, Bruckner at 3T and sign Payne as a FA.

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Its cute how you keep thinking Warshington is letting Payne just walk away for nothing, without even slapping a franchise tag on him.


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OK. I'm back with my new GM move

trade Fields to the Colts. Talk them into including Bruckner for the salary relief. Take Young #1, Will Anderson #4, Bruckner at 3T and sign Payne as a FA.


Do you really think Young works without an elite offensive line?

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the Colts and the Texans aren't going to move up to take QB number 1. If the bears dont trade fields, you know they aren't taking Young, so the Texans will get him anyway if thats who they want and the Colts would take Stroud or whoever. the Bears true targets to trade to would be a team further down like the Raiders or the Panthers who may not get a shot at Young or Stroud or even Levis from their current draft position. To me, the Texans and the Colts would be idiots to spend ADDITIONAL picks to get an OK QB prospect, when the other guy will be there with no additional investment. If the Bears trade fields that changes things obviously.

Oh, and the Colts arent trading for fields if they can get Young or Stroud.


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OK. I'm back with my new GM move

trade Fields to the Colts. Talk them into including Bruckner for the salary relief. Take Young #1, Will Anderson #4, Bruckner at 3T and sign Payne as a FA.


Do you really think Young works without an elite offensive line?


Kinda seeing how it works when you put a talented young QB behind the worst O line in the league.

Difficult to get an accurate read on how the Alabama and Ohio State QB's will do in the NFL because they are surrounded by NFL level talent and play teams each week that only have college level talent.


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good dolphin wrote:
OK. I'm back with my new GM move

trade Fields to the Colts. Talk them into including Bruckner for the salary relief. Take Young #1, Will Anderson #4, Bruckner at 3T and sign Payne as a FA.


Do you really think Young works without an elite offensive line?


Kinda seeing how it works when you put a talented young QB behind the worst O line in the league.

Difficult to get an accurate read on how the Alabama and Ohio State QB's will do in the NFL because they are surrounded by NFL level talent and play teams each week that only have college level talent.


This Bears offensive line gave up a total of 3 sacks when Fields wasn't playing. Guys who have the luxury of waiting don't always make a smooth transition to the NFL.

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Laurence just said in transition he thinks Bryce Young is Drew Brees. Parkins hadn't heard of that comparison before, which surprises me because if you Google "bryce young comp," Drew Brees is all over. Parkins said you have to take him then if he's Drew Brees. Laurence replied, "Well, here's the thing. I think Justin is going to be better."


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so the last time #1 got traded was the jared goff draft

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Tennessee sent the No. 1 overall pick, the No. 113 overall pick and the No. 177 overall pick to Los Angeles. In exchange Tennessee received the Nos. 15, 43, 45 and 76 picks in the 2016 draft, plus a 2017 first-rounder and a 2017 third-rounder.


that seems like the perfect haul for the bears for a team with this many needs.


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OK. I'm back with my new GM move

trade Fields to the Colts. Talk them into including Bruckner for the salary relief. Take Young #1, Will Anderson #4, Bruckner at 3T and sign Payne as a FA.


Do you really think Young works without an elite offensive line?


Kinda seeing how it works when you put a talented young QB behind the worst O line in the league.

Difficult to get an accurate read on how the Alabama and Ohio State QB's will do in the NFL because they are surrounded by NFL level talent and play teams each week that only have college level talent.


This Bears offensive line gave up a total of 3 sacks when Fields wasn't playing. Guys who have the luxury of waiting don't always make a smooth transition to the NFL.


Playing behind superior o lines in college where you have tons of time to throw makes you look good, and likely requires you to drastically modify your game clock when you move to the NFL.

You still see Fields getting happy feet and missing easy throws all the time because he is getting almost instant pressure up the middle on nearly every snap he likely rarely had his C and G get blown up at Ohio State like he did nearly every play this year.


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so the last time #1 got traded was the jared goff draft

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Tennessee sent the No. 1 overall pick, the No. 113 overall pick and the No. 177 overall pick to Los Angeles. In exchange Tennessee received the Nos. 15, 43, 45 and 76 picks in the 2016 draft, plus a 2017 first-rounder and a 2017 third-rounder.


that seems like the perfect haul for the bears for a team with this many needs.


I think 2 teams are gonna be aggressive to get a QB, and that is the Colts and Panthers.


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so the last time #1 got traded was the jared goff draft

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that seems like the perfect haul for the bears for a team with this many needs.


I think 2 teams are gonna be aggressive to get a QB, and that is the Colts and Panthers.


It sure sounds like Ballard is pushing his chips in the middle of the table.

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so the last time #1 got traded was the jared goff draft

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Tennessee sent the No. 1 overall pick, the No. 113 overall pick and the No. 177 overall pick to Los Angeles. In exchange Tennessee received the Nos. 15, 43, 45 and 76 picks in the 2016 draft, plus a 2017 first-rounder and a 2017 third-rounder.


that seems like the perfect haul for the bears for a team with this many needs.


I think 2 teams are gonna be aggressive to get a QB, and that is the Colts and Panthers.

But the colts are going to get a QB regardless at 4, unless the bears trade fields.


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