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veganfan21

Post subject: Re: Draft and Offseason Needs

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:12 pm

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billypootons wrote:

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badrogue17 wrote:

I think you’re discounting the gold fever that seems to take over draft rooms and organizations once they’re convinced they HAVE to have a certain player. They make dumb deals because they’ve convinced themselves they need player x so badly or that he’s the key to the future.

I want to acknowledge this is 100% accurate. GM's with Gold Fever....I love it :lol:

I agree with whoever said Indy and Carolina are the 2 likely teams that will be "aggressive" and do something stupid to move up in the draft.

for the colts all we need is for irsay to fall in love with a qb. he's their GM now. he'd be dumb enough to give up a lot to get to 1 from 4

Irsay already fell in love with a QB. You can be sure of that - the dude's a classic micromanager.

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:12 pm

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It's fun to laugh at the futility of the Colts, until you realize our current GM is a Ballard Protégé and 1/2 our coaching staff comes from there too

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blackhawksfan

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:21 pm

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For all the hype about the Bears and this draft they only have two picks in the first 56 picks. Meanwhile the Lions have 4 picks in the first 60 picks, including 2 first rounders.

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Post subject: Re: Draft and Offseason Needs

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:22 pm

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blackhawksfan wrote:

For all the hype about the Bears and this draft they only have two picks in the first 56 picks. Meanwhile the Lions have 4 picks in the first 60 picks, including 2 first rounders.

Didnt realize the draft was happening today.

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Post subject: Re: Draft and Offseason Needs

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:23 pm

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blackhawksfan wrote:

For all the hype about the Bears and this draft they only have two picks in the first 56 picks. Meanwhile the Lions have 4 picks in the first 60 picks, including 2 first rounders.

Lions definitely sitting pretty but I think the hype is about the potential to convert the #1 into, say, four picks in the top 56 this year, and then maybe two in the top 60 next year.

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Hussra

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:40 pm

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blackhawksfan wrote:

For all the hype about the Bears and this draft they only have two picks in the first 56 picks. Meanwhile the Lions have 4 picks in the first 60 picks, including 2 first rounders.

As bad as the Bears have been at drafting and team-building, Lions are the gold-standard of suck. Whatever the over/under on wins is for the Lions come August, pound the under.

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Nas

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:41 pm

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Hussra wrote:

blackhawksfan wrote:

For all the hype about the Bears and this draft they only have two picks in the first 56 picks. Meanwhile the Lions have 4 picks in the first 60 picks, including 2 first rounders.

As bad as the Bears have been at drafting and team-building, Lions are the gold-standard of suck. Whatever the over/under on wins is for the Lions come August, pound the under.

Only if you like losing money. The Lions have one of the best young rosters in the NFL.

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:43 pm

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Hussra wrote:

Whatever the over/under on wins is for the Lions come August, pound the under.

2022 O/U for Lions wins was 8.5. How much did you lose?

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:55 pm

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Nas wrote:

Hussra wrote:

blackhawksfan wrote:

For all the hype about the Bears and this draft they only have two picks in the first 56 picks. Meanwhile the Lions have 4 picks in the first 60 picks, including 2 first rounders.

As bad as the Bears have been at drafting and team-building, Lions are the gold-standard of suck. Whatever the over/under on wins is for the Lions come August, pound the under.

Only if you like losing money. The Lions have one of the best young rosters in the NFL.

Their arrow is definitely pointing up and they have a lot of youth. The Lions may be finally figuring shit out.

One might think that improving to 9-8, the Lions "Learned to Win" :lol:

A more reasonable person would say, the Lions cleared cap space, accumulated draft picks, and selected some monster players.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Draft and Offseason Needs

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:59 pm

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BigW72 wrote:

Nas wrote:

Hussra wrote:

blackhawksfan wrote:

For all the hype about the Bears and this draft they only have two picks in the first 56 picks. Meanwhile the Lions have 4 picks in the first 60 picks, including 2 first rounders.

As bad as the Bears have been at drafting and team-building, Lions are the gold-standard of suck. Whatever the over/under on wins is for the Lions come August, pound the under.

Only if you like losing money. The Lions have one of the best young rosters in the NFL.

Their arrow is definitely pointing up and they have a lot of youth. The Lions may be finally figuring shit out.

One might think that improving to 9-8, the Lions "Learned to Win" :lol:

A more reasonable person would say, the Lions cleared cap space, accumulated draft picks, and selected some monster players.

Yep. We'll have to go through the Lions for the next decade. Hating CHUSE instead of FavreFan.

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badrogue17

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:59 pm

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Nas wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

and I'm completely on board with drafting a qb at the end of the draft to develop as a good backup

I think you need to find someone that works in the same offense your starter is most comfortable

Malik Cunningham from Louisville is listed as 16th. He'd be an interesting developmental QB.

Dorian Thompson-Robinson

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Draft and Offseason Needs

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:01 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

Nas wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Dorian Thompson-Robinson

We playing that “ quarterback or serial killer “ game ?

The hyphen has become popular, even for those who have no professional reason to do it.

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: Draft and Offseason Needs

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:03 pm

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Nas wrote:

Hussra wrote:

blackhawksfan wrote:

For all the hype about the Bears and this draft they only have two picks in the first 56 picks. Meanwhile the Lions have 4 picks in the first 60 picks, including 2 first rounders.

As bad as the Bears have been at drafting and team-building, Lions are the gold-standard of suck. Whatever the over/under on wins is for the Lions come August, pound the under.

Only if you like losing money. The Lions have one of the best young rosters in the NFL.

I thought I heard Collinsworth say they have one of the best offensive lines in the league. It all starts from there. Even Goff ( Jared , not Jason) looked very good behind them this year. They have a nice offense going forward .

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Draft and Offseason Needs

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:10 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

Nas wrote:

Hussra wrote:

blackhawksfan wrote:

For all the hype about the Bears and this draft they only have two picks in the first 56 picks. Meanwhile the Lions have 4 picks in the first 60 picks, including 2 first rounders.

As bad as the Bears have been at drafting and team-building, Lions are the gold-standard of suck. Whatever the over/under on wins is for the Lions come August, pound the under.

Only if you like losing money. The Lions have one of the best young rosters in the NFL.

Any NFL caliber quarterback can be successful if you give them a great offensive line, great receivers, and really good running backs.

They pick 6th overall and have 4 of the top 60 picks. The Bears have nowhere near their level of talent. It would take multiple years of home run drafts to come close.

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veganfan21

Post subject: Re: Draft and Offseason Needs

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:16 pm

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Nas wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

Nas wrote:

Hussra wrote:

blackhawksfan wrote:

For all the hype about the Bears and this draft they only have two picks in the first 56 picks. Meanwhile the Lions have 4 picks in the first 60 picks, including 2 first rounders.

As bad as the Bears have been at drafting and team-building, Lions are the gold-standard of suck. Whatever the over/under on wins is for the Lions come August, pound the under.

Only if you like losing money. The Lions have one of the best young rosters in the NFL.

They're loaded with skill player talent even after losing Hockenson.

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Nardi

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:22 pm

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Nas wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

Nas wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Dorian Thompson-Robinson

We playing that “ quarterback or serial killer “ game ?

The hyphen has become popular, even for those who have no professional reason to do it.

The more letters, the better. However, the ultimate would be Smith-Jones.

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veganfan21

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:14 pm

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All this Hopkins Twitter chatter is making me uneasy. We'll know if Poles is a dumbass if he spends any precious capital for a win now WR who's passing his prime.

Hopkins is a WR the Packers or Ravens should target, not the Bears.

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:17 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Hussra wrote:

Whatever the over/under on wins is for the Lions come August, pound the under.

2022 O/U for Lions wins was 8.5. How much did you lose?

I thought it was 6.5, the same as the Bears before the season started. I’m

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Nas

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:35 pm

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veganfan21 wrote:

This doesn't sound like a guy who would rush his timeline. He's been disciplined; I don't think that'll change.

https://sports.yahoo.com/ryan-poles-thr ... 26573.html

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Hussra

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Hussra wrote:

Whatever the over/under on wins is for the Lions come August, pound the under.

2022 O/U for Lions wins was 8.5. How much did you lose?

2023, this August, not last August.

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:11 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

Nas wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Dorian Thompson-Robinson

We playing that “ quarterback or serial killer “ game ?

Hova-Nas wrote:

The hyphen has become popular, even for those who have no professional reason to do it.

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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:44 am

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

Nas wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Dorian Thompson-Robinson

We playing that “ quarterback or serial killer “ game ?

Hova-Nas wrote:

The hyphen has become popular, even for those who have no professional reason to do it.

Name hyphenation was one of the first fun controversies of the modern era of the board.

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blackhawksfan

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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:32 pm

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Now that Carr is on the trading block that effects the value of the #1 pick. Bears just can't win lol

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RFDC

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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:33 pm

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blackhawksfan wrote:

Now that Carr is on the trading block that effects the value of the #1 pick. Bears just can't win lol

you remain one of the biggest idiots on this board. Carr impacts nothing concerning the Bears

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RFDC wrote:

blackhawksfan wrote:

Now that Carr is on the trading block that effects the value of the #1 pick. Bears just can't win lol

you remain one of the biggest idiots on this board. Carr impacts nothing concerning the Bears

Dan Pompei said the same thing this morning. Boo ya

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blackhawksfan wrote:

Now that Carr is on the trading block that effects the value of the #1 pick. Bears just can't win lol

Young on a rookie deal for 5 years or Derrick Carr on a 2 year deal for $41 million per year. I'm sure teams will be losing the Bears number now that this is an option.

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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:46 pm

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blackhawksfan wrote:

RFDC wrote:

blackhawksfan wrote:

Now that Carr is on the trading block that effects the value of the #1 pick. Bears just can't win lol

you remain one of the biggest idiots on this board. Carr impacts nothing concerning the Bears

Dan Pompei said the same thing this morning. Boo ya

Damn keep forgetting that you are just another mult of Hawaii that should be ignored.

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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:50 pm

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Free Agent QB's 2023
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Lamar -- ???
Geno -- Seattle
TB12 -- Dolphins
Danny Football -- Giants
Jimmy G(aroppolo) -- Saints
Jacob y Brisket -- Tampa Bay
Ginger Gun -- Cleveland
B Mayfield -- Saskatchewan
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veganfan21

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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:57 pm

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I can see a team like Indy being tempted by Carr. Carr is one of those QBs you can win with if he's surrounded by an elite defense. Oakland thought they had a Brees or Rivers in Carr when really Carr is a Flacco. He won't will your team to victory but he's sort of an elite "game manager" type QB who can be relied upon to win if you have a strong D and a good to great running game. Miscast in Oakland.

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veganfan21 wrote:

I can see a team like Indy being tempted by Carr.

Yes, your first two attempts at a retread QB sure worked, go for it again!

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