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Caller Bob's post about George Floyd is very misleading.



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Caller Bob's post about George Floyd is very misleading.



How so?


He mentioned George Floyd and "Social Justice" as some of the issues he had to deal with. That's true for just about anyone who held a leadership position back then.

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What does George Floyd have to do with football? Truly bizarre.


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What does George Floyd have to do with football? Truly bizarre.


You know why nearly everyone in a leadership position had to deal with George Floyd and the social unrest around the country. Be better.

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If I'm not mistaken, the Judicial System correctly addressed the George Floyd situation.


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There were a couple of days in between when he got killed and when the judicial system addressed it where there were some leadership decisions to be made.


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There were a couple of days in between when he got killed and when the judicial system addressed it where there were some leadership decisions to be made.

I think those were the months where Warren showed his leadership by trying to kill college football.

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A good 90% showed poor judgement in leadership. He ultimately backed down. Meanwhile, the NBA still has COVID protocol, our Governor still has us in a state of emergency, and the CDC is still hawking vaccines.

I doubt his motives were pure when he gave in, but he DID cave. It's more than we can say about MANY.


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Caller Bob's post about George Floyd is very misleading.

I don't really like having Poles report to him. He tried to politician his way out of saying who had the deciding vote when it comes to roster decisions. All that did was make it clear that it's him.


If that's true, that's distressing. If they wanted to hire a president of football operations, rather than a president of business operations, why didn't they hire him last year when they hired a new GM and head coach? If he's really going to be weighing in on every major football decision, he's going to be tapping his foot, looking at his watch, and waiting for Poles or Eberflus to f**ck up so he can fire both of them and bring in his own people.


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While it's a nice soundbite, albeit communist, to say that he is going to talk to everyone in the organization to see what can be improved, the only thing that matters is being able to evaluate talent and drafting players that can play for your team. So really, Warren doesn't have a clue about what needs to be done that he can't see something that's been obvious to every fan who has watched a game in the last 10 years. Don't try to deflect and change the subject.

How many people answer interview questions by citing something to them that happened when they were 10 years old or talk about their family at all? It's not relevant, but Warren kept going back to this time and time again yesterday. Everyone has had a personal struggle in their life at one time or another. I broke both wrists at the same time in 7th grade, but that would not be something I would call a formative experience in an interview, much less with the Chicago media.

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Nas wrote:
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What does George Floyd have to do with football? Truly bizarre.


You know why nearly everyone in a leadership position had to deal with George Floyd and the social unrest around the country. Be better.


It doesn't matter but it's a strange assumption that Warren would even lean left, when everything on his resume would suggest the opposite.

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Nas wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
What does George Floyd have to do with football? Truly bizarre.


You know why nearly everyone in a leadership position had to deal with George Floyd and the social unrest around the country. Be better.


It doesn't matter but it's a strange assumption that Warren would even lean left, when everything on his resume would suggest the opposite.


I assumed that he's a conservative guy too. Ryan Poles? Not so much.

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good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
What does George Floyd have to do with football? Truly bizarre.


You know why nearly everyone in a leadership position had to deal with George Floyd and the social unrest around the country. Be better.


It doesn't matter but it's a strange assumption that Warren would even lean left, when everything on his resume would suggest the opposite.


You could same the same thing about Deni$ but you never know!


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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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What does George Floyd have to do with football? Truly bizarre.


You know why nearly everyone in a leadership position had to deal with George Floyd and the social unrest around the country. Be better.


It doesn't matter but it's a strange assumption that Warren would even lean left, when everything on his resume would suggest the opposite.


I assumed that he's a conservative guy too. Ryan Poles? Not so much.


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Caller Bob wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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What does George Floyd have to do with football? Truly bizarre.


You know why nearly everyone in a leadership position had to deal with George Floyd and the social unrest around the country. Be better.


It doesn't matter but it's a strange assumption that Warren would even lean left, when everything on his resume would suggest the opposite.


You could same the same thing about Deni$ but you never know!


denis calls himself a libertarian so that right wingers think he is a cool, rebellious republican and he has plausible deniability with left wingers

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Why is this hire being celebrated again? What is his scope of work? He's being brought in to run the business side, no? Why are people talking like he's running football ops?

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Why is this hire being celebrated again? What is his scope of work? He's being brought in to run the business side, no? Why are people talking like he's running football ops?

And why are people who’ve been adamant Ginny should church & state the football/business operations suggesting this guy will somehow make the football team better?

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Why is this hire being celebrated again? What is his scope of work? He's being brought in to run the business side, no? Why are people talking like he's running football ops?

And why are people who’ve been adamant Ginny should church & state the football/business operations suggesting this guy will somehow make the football team better?


That's also what I am getting it. If I am hired into his role the first thing I'm doing for the football side is hiring an executive to oversee Pace. That dude runs the football side and I care about the business side. The only time we interact is about finances, but I'm not telling that dude who to spend on and whatnot, that's his job.

Again I don't know all the details but I'm not sure how this celebration connects to personnel and other on-the-field stuff. It obviously connects to bigger picture issues on the business and franchise side. So not sure why sports radio stations are pumping the hire up. Maybe there's nothing else to talk about.

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Why is this hire being celebrated again? What is his scope of work? He's being brought in to run the business side, no? Why are people talking like he's running football ops?


He's had business success in Minnesota and the Big Ten. I imagine his Big Ten resources may be useful to Poles for at least the next few years. He was also in Missourah when they won a SB. He loves the Lord. You can't work in Bears management unless you are deeply religious.

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Why is this hire being celebrated again? What is his scope of work? He's being brought in to run the business side, no? Why are people talking like he's running football ops?


He's had business success in Minnesota and the Big Ten. I imagine his Big Ten resources may be useful to Poles for at least the next few years. He was also in Missourah when they won a SB. He loves the Lord. You can't work in Bears management unless you are deeply religious.


So basically he's the next Ted Phillips but with more football experience? Again, if so, who cares? For those who want better management structure at Halas Hall you're basically reproducing the same problem but swapping names - Warren SHOULD NOT have influence over Poles since he's not a football person.

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Nas wrote:
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Why is this hire being celebrated again? What is his scope of work? He's being brought in to run the business side, no? Why are people talking like he's running football ops?


He's had business success in Minnesota and the Big Ten. I imagine his Big Ten resources may be useful to Poles for at least the next few years. He was also in Missourah when they won a SB. He loves the Lord. You can't work in Bears management unless you are deeply religious.

That is not going to help Reader regain his Bear fandom.

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Why is this hire being celebrated again? What is his scope of work? He's being brought in to run the business side, no? Why are people talking like he's running football ops?


He's had business success in Minnesota and the Big Ten. I imagine his Big Ten resources may be useful to Poles for at least the next few years. He was also in Missourah when they won a SB. He loves the Lord. You can't work in Bears management unless you are deeply religious.


So basically he's the next Ted Phillips but with more football experience? Again, if so, who cares? For those who want better management structure at Halas Hall you're basically reproducing the same problem but swapping names - Warren SHOULD NOT have influence over Poles since he's not a football person.


I completely agree. Warren's college football resources should be invaluable.

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Why is this hire being celebrated again? What is his scope of work? He's being brought in to run the business side, no? Why are people talking like he's running football ops?


He's had business success in Minnesota and the Big Ten. I imagine his Big Ten resources may be useful to Poles for at least the next few years. He was also in Missourah when they won a SB. He loves the Lord. You can't work in Bears management unless you are deeply religious.

That is not going to help Reader regain his Bear fandom.


I don't think Reader is holding hands with JORR yet. Besides, their faith is a part of their identity.

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Why is this hire being celebrated again? What is his scope of work? He's being brought in to run the business side, no? Why are people talking like he's running football ops?


He's had business success in Minnesota and the Big Ten. I imagine his Big Ten resources may be useful to Poles for at least the next few years. He was also in Missourah when they won a SB. He loves the Lord. You can't work in Bears management unless you are deeply religious.


So basically he's the next Ted Phillips but with more football experience? Again, if so, who cares? For those who want better management structure at Halas Hall you're basically reproducing the same problem but swapping names - Warren SHOULD NOT have influence over Poles since he's not a football person.



Warren's resume makes him the perfect guy for the job. He built what is considered by some to be the best stadium in the NFL.

And Warren doesn't have to have influence over football decisions to be Poles boss.

He'll easily be able to guage his success based upon results.

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Why is this hire being celebrated again? What is his scope of work? He's being brought in to run the business side, no? Why are people talking like he's running football ops?


He's had business success in Minnesota and the Big Ten. I imagine his Big Ten resources may be useful to Poles for at least the next few years. He was also in Missourah when they won a SB. He loves the Lord. You can't work in Bears management unless you are deeply religious.


So basically he's the next Ted Phillips but with more football experience? Again, if so, who cares? For those who want better management structure at Halas Hall you're basically reproducing the same problem but swapping names - Warren SHOULD NOT have influence over Poles since he's not a football person.



Warren's resume makes him the perfect guy for the job. He built what is considered by some to be the best stadium in the NFL.

And Warren doesn't have to have influence over football decisions to be Poles boss.

He'll easily be able to guage his success based upon results.


I'm not questioning his credentials as they pertain to his core job, which again I'm assuming skews more toward the business side. I'm just wondering why both radio stations are organizing parades for this guy like they would/should have if we hired, say, Ozzie Newsom as VP - Football Ops, supervising Poles. Now that would be freaking awesome.

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Why is this hire being celebrated again? What is his scope of work? He's being brought in to run the business side, no? Why are people talking like he's running football ops?


He's had business success in Minnesota and the Big Ten. I imagine his Big Ten resources may be useful to Poles for at least the next few years. He was also in Missourah when they won a SB. He loves the Lord. You can't work in Bears management unless you are deeply religious.


So basically he's the next Ted Phillips but with more football experience? Again, if so, who cares? For those who want better management structure at Halas Hall you're basically reproducing the same problem but swapping names - Warren SHOULD NOT have influence over Poles since he's not a football person.



Warren's resume makes him the perfect guy for the job. He built what is considered by some to be the best stadium in the NFL.

And Warren doesn't have to have influence over football decisions to be Poles boss.

He'll easily be able to guage his success based upon results.


I'm not questioning his credentials as they pertain to his core job, which again I'm assuming skews more toward the business side. I'm just wondering why both radio stations are organizing parades for this guy like they would/should have if we hired, say, Ozzie Newsom as VP - Football Ops, supervising Poles. Now that would be freaking awesome.

Isn't that how most new hires are treated in sports? Everyone is great for the first few months or years.

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I assume sports radio/sports talk cares about W/L and championships. Do I really care about this dude's ability to build a stadium? Good for him if they figure it out but from a sports angle it's all about the draft and Fields for me I would think.

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Conservative, Liberal. Gentile, Jew. I'm not sure why any of this matters to the average fan. As I stated yesterday, win a Lombardi trophy. What Kevin Warren does on his own time or while he's off the clock doesn't fucking matter.

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Why is this hire being celebrated again? What is his scope of work? He's being brought in to run the business side, no? Why are people talking like he's running football ops?


He's had business success in Minnesota and the Big Ten. I imagine his Big Ten resources may be useful to Poles for at least the next few years. He was also in Missourah when they won a SB. He loves the Lord. You can't work in Bears management unless you are deeply religious.


So basically he's the next Ted Phillips but with more football experience? Again, if so, who cares? For those who want better management structure at Halas Hall you're basically reproducing the same problem but swapping names - Warren SHOULD NOT have influence over Poles since he's not a football person.



Warren's resume makes him the perfect guy for the job. He built what is considered by some to be the best stadium in the NFL.

And Warren doesn't have to have influence over football decisions to be Poles boss.

He'll easily be able to guage his success based upon results.


I'm not questioning his credentials as they pertain to his core job, which again I'm assuming skews more toward the business side. I'm just wondering why both radio stations are organizing parades for this guy like they would/should have if we hired, say, Ozzie Newsom as VP - Football Ops, supervising Poles. Now that would be freaking awesome.


I think the difference is that he has football resources that can be helpful to Poles. I don't believe Ted Phillips had any usefulness outside of business.

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