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I would still like to know why they are demanding this in January? They got June for Pride Month, they don't get the entire fucking Calendar year.



The Flyers never play in June anymore...

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No employer should be forcing employees to participate in political actions against their will. Period.

But God forgive if they don’t stand for the anthem or wear the cynical crap the military was paying for.



Was anyone forced to stand for the anthem? I don't think so. The public can judge those who don't just like Boyd is judging this guy.

Ever heard of Colin Kaepernick, or Jerry Jones’ & other team owners’ remarks? And you’re referring to a segment of the crowd that felt the need to get hyperbolic about the stupid, phony issue.

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I would still like to know why they are demanding this in January? They got June for Pride Month, they don't get the entire fucking Calendar year.



The Flyers never play in June anymore...


We honor too many things. Get rid of it all.


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I would still like to know why they are demanding this in January? They got June for Pride Month, they don't get the entire fucking Calendar year.



The Flyers never play in June anymore...

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I would still like to know why they are demanding this in January? They got June for Pride Month, they don't get the entire fucking Calendar year.



The Flyers never play in June anymore...

:lol:


I feel like I should have let CH do that one. :oops:

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Another asswipe hiding behind religion. Whatever.

Would the NBA players be asswipes for not wanting to wear a Blue Lives Matter jersey and making up some bullshit to not wear one ?


Are they using religion as their reason?

Whatever reason they use . What’s it matter ?


Because I'm calling this russian guy an asswipe for hiding behind his storybook. I don't really care if the guy hates gays. I just despise people who use religion as their shield to be that way.



Apparently you are free to voice your beliefs, the Russian... not so much.

Is he at least allowed to stay true to himself?

He said he made a choice to stay true to himself & his faith.



Oh don’t get me wrong. He’s free to voice them. Just like anyone else. Just like I’m free to shit on him for hiding behind his storybook.

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No employer should be forcing employees to participate in political actions against their will. Period.

But God forgive if they don’t stand for the anthem or wear the cynical crap the military was paying for.

Or refuse to get a vaccine they dont need . That REALLY riled some people up.

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Another asswipe hiding behind religion. Whatever.

Would the NBA players be asswipes for not wanting to wear a Blue Lives Matter jersey and making up some bullshit to not wear one ?


Are they using religion as their reason?

You have no idea what a terrible response that is, do you?


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With caller Bob and Seacrest posting in this thread, there are plenty of examples of terrible responses here.

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Another asswipe hiding behind religion. Whatever.

Would the NBA players be asswipes for not wanting to wear a Blue Lives Matter jersey and making up some bullshit to not wear one ?


Are they using religion as their reason?

You have no idea what a terrible response that is, do you?

It’s perfectly fine. He’s asking me about oranges when I’m talking about apples. Im redirecting him to apples.

As I’ve stated. I don’t care if the Russian supported the event or not. He can believe whatever he wants. I think it’s pathetic that he’s hiding behind religion. I think it’s pathetic when anyone uses religion as justification for their actions. That’s my stance.

If an NBA player didn’t want to support blue lives matter, that’s perfectly fine too. But if they point to some storybook as the reason, that’s pathetc, and they’re asswipes. If the nba player didn’t support because they feel that blue lives matter doesn’t care about them or their community, that’s fine too. At least that’s a tangible reason that can be seen.

Im sorry if you all can’t see the difference, but maybe you need to understand any more attention and step outside your boxes.

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Another asswipe hiding behind religion. Whatever.

Would the NBA players be asswipes for not wanting to wear a Blue Lives Matter jersey and making up some bullshit to not wear one ?


Are they using religion as their reason?

You have no idea what a terrible response that is, do you?

It’s perfectly fine. He’s asking me about oranges when I’m talking about apples. Im redirecting him to apples.

As I’ve stated. I don’t care if the Russian supported the event or not. He can believe whatever he wants. I think it’s pathetic that he’s hiding behind religion. I think it’s pathetic when anyone uses religion as justification for their actions. That’s my stance.

If an NBA player didn’t want to support blue lives matter, that’s perfectly fine too. But if they point to some storybook as the reason, that’s pathetc, and they’re asswipes. If the nba player didn’t support because they feel that blue lives matter doesn’t care about them or their community, that’s fine too. At least that’s a tangible reason that can be seen.

Im sorry if you all can’t see the difference, but maybe you need to understand any more attention and step outside your boxes.

Do you know what his religion is and what it says about homosexuality, or how devout he is to it? Seems like your point is that anyone who is devout to their religion is pathetic.

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This is why this country has turned into a bunch of whiny pussies, not everyone is going to get along and agree..only a moron thinks that's possible..who gives a fuck if this guy don't want to wear some gay jersey.

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This is why this country has turned into a bunch of whiny pussies, not everyone is going to get along and agree..only a moron thinks that's possible..who gives a fuck if this guy don't want to wear some gay jersey.


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Another asswipe hiding behind religion. Whatever.

Would the NBA players be asswipes for not wanting to wear a Blue Lives Matter jersey and making up some bullshit to not wear one ?


Are they using religion as their reason?

You have no idea what a terrible response that is, do you?

It’s perfectly fine. He’s asking me about oranges when I’m talking about apples. Im redirecting him to apples.

As I’ve stated. I don’t care if the Russian supported the event or not. He can believe whatever he wants. I think it’s pathetic that he’s hiding behind religion. I think it’s pathetic when anyone uses religion as justification for their actions. That’s my stance.

If an NBA player didn’t want to support blue lives matter, that’s perfectly fine too. But if they point to some storybook as the reason, that’s pathetc, and they’re asswipes. If the nba player didn’t support because they feel that blue lives matter doesn’t care about them or their community, that’s fine too. At least that’s a tangible reason that can be seen.

Im sorry if you all can’t see the difference, but maybe you need to understand any more attention and step outside your boxes.

Do you know what his religion is and what it says about homosexuality, or how devout he is to it? Seems like your point is that anyone who is devout to their religion is pathetic.


Not at all. My point is that anyone who uses their religion as a shield is pathetic.

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Do you know what his religion is and what it says about homosexuality, or how devout he is to it? Seems like your point is that anyone who is devout to their religion is pathetic.

That's his job to explain though. It's just like people who protested by kneeling for the national anthem.

What is his specific issue with wearing a pride jersey? If he wants to protest against gay people then he should do it but explain it.

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Do you know what his religion is and what it says about homosexuality, or how devout he is to it? Seems like your point is that anyone who is devout to their religion is pathetic.

That's his job to explain though. It's just like people who protested by kneeling for the national anthem.

What is his specific issue with wearing a pride jersey? If he wants to protest against gay people then he should do it but explain it.



He doesn't need to explain anything. He isn't protesting against gay people. He's simply refusing to take a political position.

What if Seacrest buys your company and declares every Friday Jesus Day and demands you wear a huge crucifix? If you refuse are you protesting against Christians?

And the anthem thing is a bad example. In fact it was often just the opposite. The pressure was on to take a knee.

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He doesn't need to explain anything. He isn't protesting against gay people. He's simply refusing to take a political position.
As I said, that is up to him to explain.
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What if Seacrest buys your company and declares every Friday Jesus Day and demands you wear a huge crucifix? If you refuse are you protesting against Christians?
This isn't a bad comparison but I also would be more than willing to explain my reasons for not wearing it. In reality though, I'd probably wear it for Friday Jesus Day because I don't really care that much either way.

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In reality though, I'd probably wear it for Friday Jesus Day because I don't really care that much either way.


Right. Most people don't rock the boat. They go along to get along. It took courage not to wear the sweater. Not the other way around.

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He doesn't need to explain anything. He isn't protesting against gay people. He's simply refusing to take a political position.
As I said, that is up to him to explain.


He did explain himself. A lot of people just don't like the explanation. And they want to punish him.

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In reality though, I'd probably wear it for Friday Jesus Day because I don't really care that much either way.


Right. Most people don't rock the boat. They go along to get along. It took courage not to wear the sweater. Not the other way around.
Is it a protest against the pride flag or not? If it is, then it did take courage to not wear the sweater but I also think an explanation is deserved of why he is protesting the pride flag.

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He doesn't need to explain anything. He isn't protesting against gay people. He's simply refusing to take a political position.
As I said, that is up to him to explain.


He did explain himself. A lot of people just don't like the explanation. And they want to punish him.

The explanation was generic and meaningless.

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In reality though, I'd probably wear it for Friday Jesus Day because I don't really care that much either way.


Right. Most people don't rock the boat. They go along to get along. It took courage not to wear the sweater. Not the other way around.
Is it a protest against the pride flag or not? If it is, then it did take courage to not wear the sweater but I also think an explanation is deserved of why he is protesting the pride flag.


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In reality though, I'd probably wear it for Friday Jesus Day because I don't really care that much either way.


Right. Most people don't rock the boat. They go along to get along. It took courage not to wear the sweater. Not the other way around.
Is it a protest against the pride flag or not? If it is, then it did take courage to not wear the sweater but I also think an explanation is deserved of why he is protesting the pride flag.



You have it backward. Wearing the sweater is the protest. A protest of some imagined discrimination against the most celebrated members of our society.

He doesn't want to participate in the protest. That should be the end of it.

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He doesn't need to explain anything. He isn't protesting against gay people. He's simply refusing to take a political position.
As I said, that is up to him to explain.
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What if Seacrest buys your company and declares every Friday Jesus Day and demands you wear a huge crucifix? If you refuse are you protesting against Christians?
This isn't a bad comparison but I also would be more than willing to explain my reasons for not wearing it. In reality though, I'd probably wear it for Friday Jesus Day because I don't really care that much either way.

Probably because just coming out and saying “ I find homosexuality deplorable and dont want to wear a jersey that tacitly supports it “ is a one way ticket out of the league and future employment ( which MANY would applaud and call for to happen ) because youre not allowed to hold such views publicly ( unless its fuck the police , then its understandable and cool) . Couching it in religion enables you to keep your job . Crazy isnt it??

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He doesn't need to explain anything. He isn't protesting against gay people. He's simply refusing to take a political position.
As I said, that is up to him to explain.
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What if Seacrest buys your company and declares every Friday Jesus Day and demands you wear a huge crucifix? If you refuse are you protesting against Christians?
This isn't a bad comparison but I also would be more than willing to explain my reasons for not wearing it. In reality though, I'd probably wear it for Friday Jesus Day because I don't really care that much either way.

Probably because just coming out and saying “ I find homosexuality deplorable and dont want to wear a jersey that tacitly supports it “ is a one way ticket out of the league and future employment ( which MANY would applaud and call for to happen ) because youre not allowed to hold such views publicly ( unless its fuck the police , then its understandable and cool) . Couching it in religion enables you to keep your job . Crazy isnt it??



Maybe. Or maybe, unlike so many "religious" people, he really does believe the tenets of his religion.

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He doesn't need to explain anything. He isn't protesting against gay people. He's simply refusing to take a political position.
As I said, that is up to him to explain.


He did explain himself. A lot of people just don't like the explanation. And they want to punish him.

The explanation was generic and meaningless.

:lol: You just proved JORR’s point

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He doesn't need to explain anything. He isn't protesting against gay people. He's simply refusing to take a political position.
As I said, that is up to him to explain.


He did explain himself. A lot of people just don't like the explanation. And they want to punish him.

The explanation was generic and meaningless.



As I said, a lot of people just don't like the explanation. You're obviously among them.

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You have it backward. Wearing the sweater is the protest. A protest of some imagined discrimination against the most celebrated members of our society.
You don't think gay people are still discriminated against?

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Probably because just coming out and saying “ I find homosexuality deplorable and dont want to wear a jersey that tacitly supports it “ is a one way ticket out of the league and future employment ( which MANY would applaud and call for to happen ) because youre not allowed to hold such views publicly ( unless its fuck the police , then its understandable and cool) . Couching it in religion enables you to keep your job . Crazy isnt it??

So you think that is what he meant?

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Probably because just coming out and saying “ I find homosexuality deplorable and dont want to wear a jersey that tacitly supports it “ is a one way ticket out of the league and future employment ( which MANY would applaud and call for to happen ) because youre not allowed to hold such views publicly ( unless its fuck the police , then its understandable and cool) . Couching it in religion enables you to keep your job . Crazy isnt it??

So you think that is what he meant?

I have no fucking idea, Rick. I’ve never even heard of the guy until this thread. Maybe he’s the most devout guy on the planet, maybe he just ( GASP) doesnt like gay people.

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