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That blows. Is it a firm or soft start time?

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Onesti hiding behind some bullshit shield of free speech. It's pathetic.


Why do you hate the constitution?

I think it's good this guy isn't caving to pressure to cancel the event. As a business owner, he should do whatever he can to make money.

That said, if people want to mock him for accepting the business, call him pathetic, whatever, that's their right. Hell...if he were holding up a bible stating that he were allowing this because some god told him to, I'd call him an asswipe. That's my right.

Funny how that works.

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During Tuesday's council meeting, Mayor Andrew Goczkowski and other officials said they'll seek to talk with Onesti about the types of events and groups the theater hosts.

"There's no place for politics in a building that's publicly owned," Goczkowski said.


This seem like an odd statement. Publicly owned buildings seem like a fine place for political discussion. Would the Mayor put his foot down if he was asked to be part of a Mayoral debate at this theater when he is up for re-election?


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Onesti hiding behind some bullshit shield of free speech. It's pathetic.


Why do you hate the constitution?

I think it's good this guy isn't caving to pressure to cancel the event. As a business owner, he should do whatever he can to make money.

That said, if people want to mock him for accepting the business, call him pathetic, whatever, that's their right. Hell...if he were holding up a bible stating that he were allowing this because some god told him to, I'd call him an asswipe. That's my right.

Funny how that works.


say hi to the asswipes when you come home from work tonight

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During Tuesday's council meeting, Mayor Andrew Goczkowski and other officials said they'll seek to talk with Onesti about the types of events and groups the theater hosts.

"There's no place for politics in a building that's publicly owned," Goczkowski said.


This seem like an odd statement. Publicly owned buildings seem like a fine place for political discussion. Would the Mayor put his foot down if he was asked to be part of a Mayoral debate at this theater when he is up for re-election?

What he meant to say was political discussion that I disagree with has no place in a public building.

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What if Seacrest buys your company and declares every Friday Jesus Day and demands you wear a huge crucifix? If you refuse are you protesting against Christians?
This isn't a bad comparison but I also would be more than willing to explain my reasons for not wearing it. In reality though, I'd probably wear it for Friday Jesus Day because I don't really care that much either way.
Its actshullie a terrible comparison because you can't force a Muslim or a Buddhist or an Atheist to wear Christian paraphernalia.

If Seacrest bought your company your best bet would be to quit right then and there.

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During Tuesday's council meeting, Mayor Andrew Goczkowski and other officials said they'll seek to talk with Onesti about the types of events and groups the theater hosts.

"There's no place for politics in a building that's publicly owned," Goczkowski said.


This seem like an odd statement. Publicly owned buildings seem like a fine place for political discussion. Would the Mayor put his foot down if he was asked to be part of a Mayoral debate at this theater when he is up for re-election?

What he meant to say was political discussion that I disagree with has no place in a public building.

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Nardi wrote:
Onesti hiding behind some bullshit shield of free speech. It's pathetic.


Why do you hate the constitution?

I think it's good this guy isn't caving to pressure to cancel the event. As a business owner, he should do whatever he can to make money.

That said, if people want to mock him for accepting the business, call him pathetic, whatever, that's their right. Hell...if he were holding up a bible stating that he were allowing this because some god told him to, I'd call him an asswipe. That's my right.

Funny how that works.

Agree completely. You mock someone, you get mocked. It's not a big deal. Maybe a few years from now the constitution will be presented as a fairy tale, who knows.


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Most liberals don't even view Russians as human beings. Why would they expect a subhuman to respect gay rights anyway?

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The more I see of this, the more I think it’s been handled perfectly.

Guy didn’t want to wear a rainbow flag so he didn’t. People who wanted him to wear the rainbow flag complained that he didn’t.

Nobody’s faced any real repercussions. It’s kind of like when the same exact thing happened in baseball last year and nobody remembers it today.

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The more I see of this, the more I think it’s been handled perfectly.

Guy didn’t want to wear a rainbow flag so he didn’t. People who wanted him to wear the rainbow flag complained that he didn’t.

Nobody’s faced any real repercussions. It’s kind of like when the same exact thing happened in baseball last year and nobody remembers it today.

Plus, the Russian government isn't going to kill his family. So, win-win-win.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The more I see of this, the more I think it’s been handled perfectly.

Guy didn’t want to wear a rainbow flag so he didn’t. People who wanted him to wear the rainbow flag complained that he didn’t.

Nobody’s faced any real repercussions. It’s kind of like when the same exact thing happened in baseball last year and nobody remembers it today.

Yep guy had every right to not wear it.

Business owner has every right to hold any event he wants.

People need to stop flipping out over such things. Let people hold to the beliefs they want and you do the same. We don't all have to be a like.

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He should have cut all of the CallerPride jerseys up like Chris Sale did when he didn't want to wear an alternate.

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Yup it all worked out, awesome!

Not sure why Boyd got her panties all in a bunch over this.


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I will no longer support heterosexual colors and companies.

Tony Dungy is a pray-the-gay-away religious nut and he's still employed. This kid will be fine, even if he's just doing it for publicity.


Not so fast, they are coming for Dungy again

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I will no longer support heterosexual colors and companies.

Tony Dungy is a pray-the-gay-away religious nut and he's still employed. This kid will be fine, even if he's just doing it for publicity.


Not so fast, they are coming for Dungy again

https://www.totalprosports.com/nfl/tony ... enieAS-Kr8

He should go away because he’s a terrible announcer , nothing else .

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The entire point of the Pride flag is activism.
Activism about what?


Perceived discrimination against homosexuals. I'll point out that wasn't always the case. At one time that flag meant something.

When did all discrimination against homosexuals end?


It ended when the government stopped allowing it.

You're apparently not satisfied with that and have now moved on to attempting to control the thoughts of others.

Do you feel the same way about the Civil Rights act? WFR made pretty much that exact same argument that systematic racism doesn't exist because of it.


Do you want to go to bed with me, Brick? If not, can you give a good explanation of why not? Are you a bigot?

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I will no longer support heterosexual colors and companies.

Tony Dungy is a pray-the-gay-away religious nut and he's still employed. This kid will be fine, even if he's just doing it for publicity.


Not so fast, they are coming for Dungy again

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Do you want to go to bed with me, Brick? If not, can you give a good explanation of why not? Are you a bigot?

I would not break my wedding vows.

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Do you want to go to bed with me, Brick? If not, can you give a good explanation of why not? Are you a bigot?

I would not break my wedding vows.


Hiding behind religion is no excuse for bigotry.

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I believe the correct term is implicit bias.

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Do you want to go to bed with me, Brick? If not, can you give a good explanation of why not? Are you a bigot?

I would not break my wedding vows.


Hiding behind religion is no excuse for bigotry.

I believe he’s hiding behind a government contract.

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I'm talking about the one promise I haven't broken to God.

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Ron Onesti pussies out . Liberal tolerance once again on display.


The CEO of the company that operates the Des Plaines Theatre has canceled a Feb. 8 event booked at the city-owned venue by conservative groups after LGBTQ advocates encouraged the city to stop it.

Ron Onesti did not explicitly give a reason for the cancellation in a statement Thursday night, but he referred to the controversy and suggested he and the theater received threats.




"What saddens me was the amount of hate that surfaced during all of this," he wrote. "People mailing bullets to me, asking their neighbors to fill my garbage cans with dog feces, countless hateful calls and outwardly targeting the Des Plaines Theatre, wishing its demise. And how would that have been good for the community?"

On Wednesday he had defended leasing the venue to the group that's been criticized for making queerphobic social media posts and other controversial statements. That came after LGBTQ advocates criticized the groups behind the Feb. 8 event -- especially DuPage County-based Awake Illinois -- and some of the scheduled speakers.

Onesti described himself as a proponent of the First Amendment and said Awake Illinois has the right to hold meetings and discuss the issues it pleases. "It's not for me to be judge and jury," Onesti said.

Several city officials, including Mayor Andrew Goczkowski, said they shared audience members' concerns about the event but said they couldn't demand that Onesti cancel the gathering. But he and other officials also said they'd seek to talk with Onesti about the types of events and groups the theater hosts.


"There's no place for politics in a building that's publicly owned," Goczkowski said.

Called "Out of the Echo Chamber: Coalition for Kids," the event was open to anyone for a $5 donation. Awake Illinois' website described the event as "a diverse group of advocates (gathering) together to transform the conversation on issues affecting children."

The speaker lineup included Jaimee Michell, founder of a group called Gays Against Groomers; Stephanie Trussell, recent Republican candidate for lieutenant governor; Shannon Adcock, founder of Awake Illinois and a leader of Moms for Liberty DuPage; and former Republican U.S. Senate candidate Matt Dubiel.

Awake has railed against suburban drag events, medical treatments for transgender youth and the state's new sex education standards, among other topics.

As he said Wednesday, Onesti in his statement Thursday said he hadn't taken sides in the controversy or the content of the event.

"This was a rental by an independent organization that sought a venue to present their diverse group of speakers," he wrote. "Neither I nor our Des Plaines Theatre had any involvement whatsoever in the production or coordination of this event. I had no deep knowledge of the subject matter, or how controversial it may be. It was to be an innocent rental and nothing more."



"People began accusing me of supporting anti-LGBTQ+ events which made me sick to my stomach. I hosted one of the first Civil Union ceremonies at my Arcada Theatre in Illinois 10 years ago this week. I was the best man at the wedding of a gay couple; my mom was their first dance. Homophobia is a disease of which I have not been afflicted."

He wrote that it was never his intention to be political personally.

"I also did not intend to put the City of Des Plaines or any of its Council Members in any compromising situation. I am proud of what we have brought to the City of Des Plaines."

The Des Plaines city council was divided Tuesday night about the event taking place, with one member saying the Des Plaines Theatre was not renovated and reopened at public expense for political reasons, while others said free speech must be considered, as well as opposing viewpoints.



Awake Illinois has defended the event and criticized those wanting it shut down.

"Why would anyone take issue with an event that is protecting children from indoctrination and sexual exploitation? #groomers," the group tweeted Wednesday

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