Texans pick 2 AND 12

so that would be a similar position

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In retrospect, I can see why it was so important to finalize the deal before free agency began.

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DJ Moore and Chase Claypool better have thick skin.

Already covered this before you posted your usual nonsense.

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Thought Las Vegas was the traded to make, but they obviously had their eye on Jimmy G., can only imagine what it would be like to be Jimmy G. in Vegas, he will need security just to keep the showgirls at bay. Jimmy G. gets them some meaningless wins, so the picks in return would maybe top 15.

Panthers will be in rebuild mode, already traded away essential infrastructure for a rookie QB which will almost guarantee the #1 next year will be top 10.

You could be in the exact same position next year, holding a top pick and not needing a QB.

My first reaction was that it was a decent haul, but he should have held out longer. The more I think about it and the closer I look at it, I'm inclined to think this was as good as it's going to get.

Still need answers for O-Line and Defensive line. I suspect that will be a 2 year project. As others have said....Fields has to prove this year he can show some passing accuracy. If he doesn't and they're forced to focus on QB in 2024, they'll likely be in a good draft position with a better QB draft.

Looking at it the other way, if I was a Carolina fan, I'd be pissed about the trade. Looks like a Ryan Pace act of desperation.

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It's a very nice haul compared to previous trades for the #1 pick especially with people not even knowing who Carolina is targeting at #1.

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I have a minor quibble with how people on TV/radio talk about the haul. The Bears did not get "two ones." They swapped first rounders in 2023, so the net increase for the Bears is only one first rounder (2024). If you want to say Moore is the equivalent of a one, then fine, they got a one and Moore, I'm not going to argue (that much).

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I think its just the low second that irritates me.

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BEAR"s TRADE With the PANTHER"s??????

You are just about the last person in the world I would expect to be the grammar police.

Watching Poles blow up the disastrous roster that Poles left behind and start making moves in free agency that make sense has been great, but the draft is what separates the good GM's from the bad ones, he must hit on his early round picks.

Pace fell in love with guys that he felt potentially had high ceilings,but ignored the fact that they had limited college production, think Poles will go with guys that are much more proven against high level competition.

It’s not like it’s his first draft. He took two guys (arguably) that fit your “proven high level” description. The rest were either unproven or mid-major/FCS guys.

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I like how his WR pick, the veteran rookie V Jones, tried to catch punts with his helmet.

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The common trait among Poles draft picks last year was that they all had high Raw Athletic Scores for their positions.

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You're butthurt over that.

Looks like the Bears have picked 9th 6 times.

2016 Leonard Floyd
2000 Brian Urlacher
1979 Al Harris
1944 Ray Evans
1943 Bob Steuber
1941 Don Scott

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Pace was just a dumb son of a bitch, had no business being in that position.

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who would teams be trading up to get at #9 allowing the Bears to make a second trade down

It couldn't be for any OL/DL because the Bears will presumably be drafting those positions

The most likely scenario is one of the three excellent CB or WR. The team that would look most interested is the Ravens but they don't have a lot of draft capital this year and moving to 22 should be expensive. Maybe the Steelers want to jump from 17. They have a full boat of picks and are good enough where a future 1 isn't expected to be all that costly.

It's a tough one to figure out at this position in the draft and probably comes down to draft day.

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Texans coming up from 12

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The Lamar Jackson posturing gives hope to teams with draft capital and cap room that they can trade for him which could have complicated things immensely on draft day.

The fact that Carolina will be bad next year makes next years #1 you got from them potentially more valuable than this years #1 given the QB's coming out next year.

Not sure if Poles realizes the amount of pressure he is under to produce in the draft. The team is trying to get a stadium deal done and if the franchise continues field the worst roster in the league you will have a nice shiny new 80,000 seat sandbox with 40,000 empty seats.

The o/u for the Bears and Panthers is 7.5.

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You also can't discount just how badly Matt Rhule sucked. They were a respectable .500 after he left last year.

True. You can only hope that a rookie quarterback struggles.

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That seems very generous for the panthers. Seems about right for the bears.

They got some nice players on defense. They were fucking idiots for letting Reddick walk for nothing though.

The panthers were solidly below average and play in an awful division. I don’t see them regressing to 2022-Bears level awful given their talent on defense.

Granted they lost their best receiver, but their QB situation was brutal last year. They can’t get much worse even if whoever they draft also can’t throw the ball.

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