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Strange segment with Bernstein & Larry Holmes playing a clip with people complaining about the noise pickleball creates. Larry is fake laughing telling Bernstein "these are your people"! While this is going on Bernstein is doing a white guy voice mocking people who complain about crime comparing them to the pickleball people. Bernstein came off as if he was mocking the violent crime problem. Really a bad look.


Yeah it was. Then I presume they were getting on Vallas for residency stuff? They sounded like they’d rather Lightfoot stay on.


Was in the car and heard a few mins of this, broke off into an odd tangent about the use of chain nets on outdoor basketball courts being racist, odd because the little town I lived in when I was in Jr. High had zero black kids and yet had chain nets on the outdoor courts, seemed to be more about the nylon nets not lasting long when exposed to the elements. Like to mess with my very left wing sister and brother in law by coming up with goofy left wing spins on things, will steal this one for sure because you could not make up a more idiotic take on pickleball and outdoor basketball nets.

The show has devolved into an almost SNL level parody of sports talk radio with hyper stereotypical takes from two guys that live their gimmicks, Holmes and Bernstein are putting 80's level Flair effort into being the type of babyfaces they think their very narrowed and niche desired audience wants.

WSCR used to be a good place to go for Bears coverage, but they can't even do that anymore, find myself going elsewhere, the only segment even worth podcasting is the M&H Biggs segment, because it is free of the seemingly mandatory SJW lens that all WSCR content must be filtered through.


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Chain nets are racist? That’s a new one.

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Outdoor courts at Saugansh, Wildwood and Edgebrook Parks all used chains in my youth. I think even Lincolnwood did as well.

Two suburban kids, from suburbs that aren't even within 20 miles of a city border, speaking about subjects they knew nothing about.

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Outdoor courts at Saugansh, Wildwood and Edgebrook Parks all used chains in my youth. I think even Lincolnwood did as well.

Two suburban kids, from suburbs that aren't even within 20 miles of a city border, speaking about subjects they knew nothing about.

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I’m surprised they didn’t latch onto Kendrick Perkins idiocy from last week ( along with saying JJ Redick is a racist and on the wrong side of history ) and run with that as well, would’ve dovetailed nicely with chain nets are racist.

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I like the chain net sound. ....Nothin' but chain.


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Outdoor courts at Saugansh, Wildwood and Edgebrook Parks all used chains in my youth. I think even Lincolnwood did as well.

Two suburban kids, from suburbs that aren't even within 20 miles of a city border, speaking about subjects they knew nothing about.


Not sure what's worse, the fact that they don't know what they are talking about, or the fact that they are so smug and overconfident that they know what they are talking about that they use the wrong facts they spewing to virtual signal with their targeted audience of other people that are smugly overconfident that they are...as the hapless goof Parkins always says, "on the wrong side of history".

Plus, do not trust any male that grew up in the late 80's like Bernstein did to not know about Ric Flair, your social circle was incredibly narrow if you did not experience things most regular dudes experienced. He is either lying or grew up very protected and therefore lacks any real perspective.

As for Holmes, feel kind of sad for him at this point, he is kind of like a pony express rider, his skills are best suited for a dying industry and he does not have the trust fund money like Bernstein and Parkins to fall back on as gigs go away, and the teaching dream has gone nowhere, not a bright future for our formerly intrepid Bears Hit (two words) reporter. It may not be as bleak as Goff's future because at least Larry seems to play well with others and has at least a basic understanding that you do not actively try to chase away listeners, but still not a great path to retirement.


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I like the chain net sound. ....Nothin' but chain.


Nothing worse than playing at a park with no net, cannot tell if the shot went in, you get no swish or rattling of the chain sound, and you have to go chase the ball on makes because it bounces away with not net to slow it down.

You then get the ball getting wet if it rolls into the grass or water puddle and you have the extra weight on the ball factor to add into the wind factor.


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I like the chain net sound. ....Nothin' but chain.

We insisted on chain nets when I was a kid for that exact reason.

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I cannot recall which WSCR thread has the stuff about staff cuts, the Cubs contract profitability, and other things related to Audacy's problems. Audacity reported year end results yesterday. This note was on the conference call:

"David J. Field Chairman, CEO & President

Let me tackle that at a high level, Craig, and then Rich may have some additional comments. So our P&L, our margins are still saddled with the fact that there's sort of 3 components going on there that I think are hurting us. One is the fact that we are -- we have a number of sports play-by-play agreements that are margin killers. And we, for example, elected not to renew the Chicago Bears play-by-play agreement this year, which will save us bottom line, $2 million, $3 million, which I think you'll see us continue to be really disciplined going forward on some of those contracts. In addition, as we've discussed on this call and others, we are spending a lot of money to transform the company and navigate the storm, but at the same time invest in where we think it's critical for us to be strategically. And as we are rewarded for those investments, that too will see margin improvement. And to some extent, we have some belt-and-suspenders elements in our operations where we are building our future, but at the same time, funding how we've done things historically. And so that has also obviously impacted costs. And so we do think that as our new technologies take hold, it will alleviate some of those costs. And lastly, I think we -- I mentioned earlier that our market composition continues to hurt us in the sense that the markets where we're focused on are growing 6% slower than the smaller and middle[1]sized markets. And that, too, given the operating leverage in this business, absolutely is a margin killer. So I think all of those factors point to stronger margins ahead and the opportunities to reduce expenses as we continue on our product -- our ad product road map and continue to work through some of these opportunities. Rich, I don't know if you want to add to that."

So it sounds like the Cubs contract is in fact a margin killer.....

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You ain't seen racist until you are playing with a bottomed out milk crate nailed to an electric pole

you know you stepped back to antebellum days when your hoop is a fat kid hung by his underwear with his arms in a circle in front of him

Jimmy Chitwood playing on a dirt court...equity

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Cubs coverage gave them a bit of a ratings boost initially, but as with everything Cubs it tanked over the last several years, can only imagine what the financials of the Cubs TV network are right now.

Interesting that the large markets are lagging, it does seem that WSCR has stagnated over the past few years by targeting a specific audience while actively chasing away a much larger audience. Cannot see how on air staff telling people not to listen helps you grow market share.

You see some people starting to get this, especially the comedians and a few select others, you may not like the 40 plus year olds, but there are still a ton of them out there and while you may not like it they have much more dispensable income than the hip wokesters you are targeting and they are not going anywhere for the next 10-20 years.

The younger kids are not as into the SJW stuff as the millennials, so your really just targeting millennials at this point, one of the poorest and least ambitious groups in recent memory, good luck with that.


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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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I like the chain net sound. ....Nothin' but chain.

We insisted on chain nets when I was a kid for that exact reason.


They could have done a much more interesting segment on the challenges of playing outdoors at the park, but based on the discussion I highly doubt either of them ever did.

So if Lil' Dannie Bernstein and Larry Holmes are reading this, here ya go.

Wind is a primary factor, have to account for it all the time.

The surface is a factor, could be uneven, or have cracks, maybe a bit wet or with some mud. You can even try to steer you guy toward the puddle and have a Soldier Field turf type outcome.

The ball can get wet, nothing like coming up short on an open look because the ball got wet when you were playing outside and it went into a puddle because it did not have a chain net to stop it because some goof on the radio said they were racist.

The other huge issue is that you never know who will show up to play. It could be an older dude that is a bit edgy and tend to play a bit physical and will not call any foul, guys that are so bad that they are dangerous, gangbangers who do not like to lose, or maybe a really good player who just happens to stop by and wants to play.

There you go boys, have at it, just gave you 5-10 mins of unique content that you sorely lack, your welcome.


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Nardi wrote:
I like the chain net sound. ....Nothin' but chain.

We insisted on chain nets when I was a kid for that exact reason.


They could have done a much more interesting segment on the challenges of playing outdoors at the park, but based on the discussion I highly doubt either of them ever did.

So if Lil' Dannie Bernstein and Larry Holmes are reading this, here ya go.

Wind is a primary factor, have to account for it all the time.

The surface is a factor, could be uneven, or have cracks, maybe a bit wet or with some mud. You can even try to steer you guy toward the puddle and have a Soldier Field turf type outcome.

The ball can get wet, nothing like coming up short on an open look because the ball got wet when you were playing outside and it went into a puddle because it did not have a chain net to stop it because some goof on the radio said they were racist.

The other huge issue is that you never know who will show up to play. It could be an older dude that is a bit edgy and tend to play a bit physical and will not call any foul, guys that are so bad that they are dangerous, gangbangers who do not like to lose, or maybe a really good player who just happens to stop by and wants to play.

There you go boys, have at it, just gave you 5-10 mins of unique content that you sorely lack, your welcome.

I’d throw in the inconsistent rim height. Never know what you’ll end up with.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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I like the chain net sound. ....Nothin' but chain.

We insisted on chain nets when I was a kid for that exact reason.


They could have done a much more interesting segment on the challenges of playing outdoors at the park, but based on the discussion I highly doubt either of them ever did.

So if Lil' Dannie Bernstein and Larry Holmes are reading this, here ya go.

Wind is a primary factor, have to account for it all the time.

The surface is a factor, could be uneven, or have cracks, maybe a bit wet or with some mud. You can even try to steer you guy toward the puddle and have a Soldier Field turf type outcome.

The ball can get wet, nothing like coming up short on an open look because the ball got wet when you were playing outside and it went into a puddle because it did not have a chain net to stop it because some goof on the radio said they were racist.

The other huge issue is that you never know who will show up to play. It could be an older dude that is a bit edgy and tend to play a bit physical and will not call any foul, guys that are so bad that they are dangerous, gangbangers who do not like to lose, or maybe a really good player who just happens to stop by and wants to play.

There you go boys, have at it, just gave you 5-10 mins of unique content that you sorely lack, your welcome.

I’d throw in the inconsistent rim height. Never know what you’ll end up with.


Good point, your dealing with bent rims quite often.

Does not surprise me that Bernstein would have never set foot on an outdoor court, but Holmes claims to be a man of the people so he should have known better.


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Cubs coverage gave them a bit of a ratings boost initially, but as with everything Cubs it tanked over the last several years, can only imagine what the financials of the Cubs TV network are right now.

Interesting that the large markets are lagging, it does seem that WSCR has stagnated over the past few years by targeting a specific audience while actively chasing away a much larger audience. Cannot see how on air staff telling people not to listen helps you grow market share.

You see some people starting to get this, especially the comedians and a few select others, you may not like the 40 plus year olds, but there are still a ton of them out there and while you may not like it they have much more dispensable income than the hip wokesters you are targeting and they are not going anywhere for the next 10-20 years.

The younger kids are not as into the SJW stuff as the millennials, so your really just targeting millennials at this point, one of the poorest and least ambitious groups in recent memory, good luck with that.



This is what you get when you stick with and even add to Mitch Rosen's duties. He has been the captain of the Titanic the entire time. A proper manager would have run into the studio 10 years ago and screamed "you said what"!

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Posting here are more interesting and fun than anything on air.

Rember back in the day the hosts would vehemently disagree with callers on sports thoughts, but always said thanks for calling or listening, that was of course when the goal of the station was to provide entertaining and original sports radio content.

Not really sure what the goal of the mid day show is these days, the hosts just seem to go through the motion and at this point are just doing a show for friends and family.


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I’m listening today. Bernstein just called Fran McCaffery a humorless chud, which is ironical.

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I didn’t think chid is supposed to be funny I thought people use choad?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
I’m listening today. Bernstein just called Fran McCaffery a humorless chud, which is ironical.

The Chapo Trap House to Dan Bernstein pipeline is complete

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Posting here are more interesting and fun than anything on air.

Rember back in the day the hosts would vehemently disagree with callers on sports thoughts, but always said thanks for calling or listening, that was of course when the goal of the station was to provide entertaining and original sports radio content.

Not really sure what the goal of the mid day show is these days, the hosts just seem to go through the motion and at this point are just doing a show for friends and family.


The show is VERY scripted. I'm pretty certain they (especially Holmes) are fully aware of each other's opinions. They already have the same opinion on 95% of all topics so it's almost like it's important to them (especially Holmes) to be united on a position.

It comes often as fake when they tease a topic and then mention that they talked about it in the pre-meeting.

I think any show, but probably this one especially, would be helped by actual having conversation/debate and not trying to be united as the show's official opinion on a topic.

The other part of the show that is suffering is the renewal of linking left wing politics to sports topic which these hosts love to do. I guess they don't care that a good portion of the audience, probably even ones who share their far left opinions, would rather just hear sports talk, but that has been on the upswing in recent weeks. They actively look for topics now where they can spin into some social justice or political cause.

Then there's the hosts that are both complete unlikeable people. They seem to be competing on which one comes accross as more arrogant and a jerk. I think that is Bernstein's natural personality, but Holmes, while formerly the generic host who can try to be friends with everyone, is now pivoting into trying to one-up Bernstein as being an unlikeable person.


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Posting here are more interesting and fun than anything on air.

Rember back in the day the hosts would vehemently disagree with callers on sports thoughts, but always said thanks for calling or listening, that was of course when the goal of the station was to provide entertaining and original sports radio content.

Not really sure what the goal of the mid day show is these days, the hosts just seem to go through the motion and at this point are just doing a show for friends and family.


The show is VERY scripted. I'm pretty certain they (especially Holmes) are fully aware of each other's opinions. They already have the same opinion on 95% of all topics so it's almost like it's important to them (especially Holmes) to be united on a position.

It comes often as fake when they tease a topic and then mention that they talked about it in the pre-meeting.

I think any show, but probably this one especially, would be helped by actual having conversation/debate and not trying to be united as the show's official opinion on a topic.

The other part of the show that is suffering is the renewal of linking left wing politics to sports topic which these hosts love to do. I guess they don't care that a good portion of the audience, probably even ones who share their far left opinions, would rather just hear sports talk, but that has been on the upswing in recent weeks. They actively look for topics now where they can spin into some social justice or political cause.

Then there's the hosts that are both complete unlikeable people. They seem to be competing on which one comes accross as more arrogant and a jerk. I think that is Bernstein's natural personality, but Holmes, while formerly the generic host who can try to be friends with everyone, is now pivoting into trying to one-up Bernstein as being an unlikeable person.




I would say it is more sad what became of Bernstein. It is wasted talent. He was so quick witted, funny, he got it. His schick of calling callers losers got old, but didn't take away from B&B. I always found Terry extremely overrated and Bernstein carried B&B which was one of the Top shows on the score.
Bernstein just turned into another predictable far left, woke, virtue signaling, retweeting boring person. He is not funny and everything he says is predictable.

Larry I never found talented in the radio format. I do think he is good in controlling a group of like he does on Bears post after game. On radio, he comes across as trying to hard to be an elitist and has awful sports takes.


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Then there's the hosts that are both complete unlikeable people. They seem to be competing on which one comes accross as more arrogant and a jerk. I think that is Bernstein's natural personality, but Holmes, while formerly the generic host who can try to be friends with everyone, is now pivoting into trying to one-up Bernstein as being an unlikeable person.

There is nothing new under the sun: maybe the oldest complaint about Leery on this board was that working with Bernstein brought out the absolute worst in him. Wooooooow, Daaaaaaan!

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The only time Larry Holmes has ever created any quality content are his working with other past host's stories. It's the only time his laughter isn't his signature fake but genuine and the segments listenable.


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I mean, Leery wrote this himself, right? No way this is not a long con.

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I mean, Leery wrote this himself, right? No way this is not a long con.

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Bernstein isn't really far left. He can barely hide is disdain for the working class and the common man.

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Bernstein isn't really far left. He can barely hide is disdain for the working class and the common man.


Most upper class leftists dislike the working class. This is clearly reflected in their support of things such as reducing prison time for violent criminals, higher taxes on the middle class, defunding police, anti school choice, and it goes on and on from there.


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Bernstein isn't really far left. He can barely hide is disdain for the working class and the common man.


Most upper class leftists dislike the working class. This is clearly reflected in their support of things such as reducing prison time for violent criminals, higher taxes on the middle class, defunding police, anti school choice, and it goes on and on from there.


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I was out at lunch and listened to a segment with Dan and Larry where they were criticizing Jon Smoltz for not showing enough joyful exuberance while covering the WBC games. Now I haven't watched any of the games so I don't know if the criticism is accurate or warranted or not, but I had to laugh at Dan Bernstein, of ALL people, criticizing ANYONE for taking the fun out of sports. Bernstein has made a CAREER out of making sports as unpleasant as possible for his listeners and mocking "meatball" fans who aren't as intelligent as he perceives himself to be who just want to watch for the sheer entertainment of the game. Now all of a sudden he's hammering on Smoltz for not projecting enough fun during his broadcasts. Bernstein is such a douche LOL


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