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Claw has a point. There wasn't a huge market for his services and he was ultimately paid less than free agent right tackles




That’s not the argument tho. The argument is about what’s legit and who is actually saying he’s an RT or an LT


The money has nothing to do with it.

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Claw has a point. There wasn't a huge market for his services and he was ultimately paid less than free agent right tackles




That’s not the argument tho. The argument is about what’s legit and who is actually saying he’s an RT or an LT


The money has nothing to do with it.


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whats the genesis of the clawmaster nme beef


I think anyone as full of himself as clawndergartner is gonna get into beef eventually. Dude nauseatingly refers to himself in the third person and speaks so condescendingly that you'd think he's writing about cancer research instead of the subtleties involved in one fat ass blocking or getting around another fat ass.

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At the time I’d have been all for it:


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whats the genesis of the clawmaster nme beef


I think anyone as full of himself as clawndergartner is gonna get into beef eventually. Dude nauseatingly refers to himself in the third person and speaks so condescendingly that you'd think he's writing about cancer research instead of the subtleties involved in one fat ass blocking or getting around another fat ass.


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NME wrote:
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Claw has a point. There wasn't a huge market for his services and he was ultimately paid less than free agent right tackles




That’s not the argument tho. The argument is about what’s legit and who is actually saying he’s an RT or an LT


The money has nothing to do with it.


Bro, gave you specific stuff from NFL Network and KC reporters who obviously talked to KC coaches/staff, KC signed another dude and let him go, it does not seem real hard to understand.

Why are you being so obtuse?


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Claw has a point. There wasn't a huge market for his services and he was ultimately paid less than free agent right tackles




That’s not the argument tho. The argument is about what’s legit and who is actually saying he’s an RT or an LT


The money has nothing to do with it.


Bro, gave you specific stuff from NFL Network and KC reporters who obviously talked to KC coaches/staff, KC signed another dude and let him go, it does not seem real hard to understand.

Why are you being so obtuse?




I’ve been called worse.


Look, this debate has run its course, I’ve got no issues with you and at this point I think it’s just going to be you and I trading insults (which can be fun too I guess) and I don’t want to do that so.. I’ll extend an olive branch here and just say this turned into a mud slinging match I didn’t intend.


All’s good on my end.. let’s just get back to talking Bears, no need for hostilities here.

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Don't move Nate Davis from RG. The kid is a beast.

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Yannick Ngakoue has 19 sacks the past two seasons. Why not bring this guy in?


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Yannick Ngakoue has 19 sacks the past two seasons. Why not bring this guy in?


They may. My guess is they're going to draft a DE with their first pick. Poles lays out what he's doing with the cap money in this clip. He's only on for the first 12 minutes or so.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:40 am 
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What happened with Houston? Why does he tell Peter King everything?

Edit: I would love a draft day trade that sends Fields to Houston for 2 picks.

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some quotes and insight on the draft trade in this peter king article

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/20/fmia-nfl-free-agency-bears-panthers/

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Chicago. The Bears traded ownership of the draft to Carolina, then owned the first week of free agency. After a conversation with Bears GM Ryan Poles the other night, it sounds like the trade was almost THE TRADE. Poles told me he had significant discussion with Houston at number two that could have made him trade down twice in the top 10—with both the Texans and Panthers. He wouldn’t be specific on what broke down, but he did say: “I thought there was an opportunity to do something historically pretty cool with a trade from one to two and two to nine. That had potential to add more draft capital this year, and then the possibility that you’re sitting on three ones in the following year. That had my attention. But my gut told me to trigger on it now. At the combine, I thought those quarterbacks did an outstanding job in their interview process. A lot of teams felt really good about some of those guys, but as you get further away from the combine, maybe there’s a bad pro day or something that turns teams off.”

My sense is that Poles is close to Carolina GM Scott Fitterer from years of road scouting and personnel conversations, and he could get a read on exactly what Carolina would do and what it wouldn’t. He doesn’t know Houston GM Nick Caserio as well, so it could be Poles was never sure how far the Texans would go to do the deal. In a draft with questions about all the top quarterbacks and no Andrew Luck or Trevor Lawrence in the group, once Carolina agreed to send wideout D.J. Moore and two ones and two twos, Poles was convinced he shouldn’t wait.

“Scott and I have a pretty good relationship, being around each other on the road,” Poles said. “I think that played a big part of it. And trust. He wanted to get it done. He was clear with his intentions.”

As for the free-agency investments, Poles staked big claims on two defenders, Tremaine Edmunds and T.J. Edwards, to remake the linebacker corps. Combined, he committed seven years and $91 million to Edmunds and Edwards after both had breakout seasons last year. Edmunds will play this year at 25, Edwards at 27. Edmunds was inconsistent in Buffalo, but, per PFF, was football’s best cover linebacker last year. Edwards was the league’s sixth-rated linebacker last year, per PFF, with the versatility coach Matt Eberflus demands from his every-down linebackers. (Edwards played 1,183 snaps in Philadelphia last year.) For those who’d question huge spending on linebackers, that’s fair. But Eberflus was an NFL linebackers coach for nine years before taking coordinator and then head-coach jobs, so it’s obvious these are two players he wanted and thinks can fit his defense.

Chicago got a starting guard, Nate Davis of Tennessee, and a solid complement to Cole Kmet at tight end in Green Bay’s Robert Tonyan. In the span of two weeks, Poles radically bolstered the offense around Justin Fields while keeping two first-round picks in the bank for next year, if he needs to think about moving on from Fields—which he doubts he’ll have to do. Now, with the ninth overall pick and four picks in the top 64, Poles can upgrade the roster at pass-rush and offensive line, to start.

Poles and the Bears, to this point, have won March. But winning in March is a bitter victory if losing in the next three years follows. So these three things are vital for the Bears in the next six weeks:

Win the ninth overall pick. Either trade down if you don’t love what’s there, or make the right choice in a tricky spot. The biggest X factor in this draft will be Georgia defensive tackle Jalen Carter, who possibly will fall to nine now after being the best overall prospect two months ago, then having a disastrous off-season. Poles has to figure out if Carter’s a legit hard-trying football guy or an irresponsible problem person, and whether he’s the kind of person and player he wants to bring in to a building franchise with character and ethos crucial elements to long-term success. I can’t emphasize how important this is. If Carter is there when Poles picks, he has the kind of decision to make that could define his term as Chicago GM.

It’ll be fascinating if Carter and one or both of the top two offensive tackles, Peter Skoronski and Paris Johnson, are there at nine. Both needs are major. Do you take the giant risk guy who is the best talent in the draft? Or do you take a solid prospect with perfect makeup at a need position to help protect your young quarterback in a vital developmental year?

Understand that all of this is about 2024 and beyond, not 2023. Don’t make decisions to win now. Make decisions to be the best team over the next five years.


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I have no idea what he gets out of giving that info to Peter King after the fact.

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I have no idea what he gets out of giving that info to Peter King after the fact.


I don't either. It just makes me question why he wasn't more aggressive with the Texans to find out if they were serious or not. I can't imagine it helps negotiations with other teams when you leak trade info.

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I have no idea what he gets out of giving that info to Peter King after the fact.


It's evidence of youth and inexperience. Stop bragging - you're actually revealing without intending to that you could have had better deals but didn't because you're possibly dumb.

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He's talking to everyone. It feels like a victory lap.

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It is a victory lap, a well deserved one. He got a nice haul, job well done.

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It is a victory lap, a well deserved one. He got a nice haul, job well done.


Watch Carolina trade out of one and get more than Poles did.

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You had the worst record in the NFL last year and your defensive line is still a laughing joke. I'd pause on that victory lap for now.


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Surely everybody's rosters are finalized in the middle of March. Clearly there is no time to make any other moves or add any other players between now and the beginning of the season.

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It is a victory lap, a well deserved one. He got a nice haul, job well done.


Watch Carolina trade out of one and get more than Poles did.


It's possible that leak was made to sabotage any potential Texans trade. It would force them to play their hand face up. It's possible what he said was complete bullshit.

My guess is the Texans were the team who switched players at the last minute. He said something like that during his press conference.

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It is a victory lap, a well deserved one. He got a nice haul, job well done.


Watch Carolina trade out of one and get more than Poles did.


possible. but the logic of taking a good deal that is in front of you has merit too.


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It is a victory lap, a well deserved one. He got a nice haul, job well done.


Watch Carolina trade out of one and get more than Poles did.



What did the Bears get in the trade from 2024?


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None of it matters unless he hits on his draft picks, likely needs 5 or more of the draft picks to be significant contributors early and 3-4 will need to be starters on day one.

He was handed a rare opportunity to restock the roster with good young players, will be interesting to see which direction he goes with the first four picks.


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Based on his free agency targets, I don't doubt him. I think that is they stick at #9, it's Paris Johnson.


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Good read. I got it from GoldenJet.


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Who were the 3 players that the Bears put on the list for the Panthers?

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Who were the 3 players that the Bears put on the list for the Panthers?

Burns and…uh, ummm…maybe…uhhhh…

This is probably one of those situations where he lied about the number because the truth would make it obvious who he was talking about.

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Based on his free agency targets, I don't doubt him. I think that is they stick at #9, it's Paris Johnson.

I think Peter Skoronski goes before Paris Johnson.
I also think they'll take an Edge rusher or DT if not for Peter Skoronski

But...I'm usually wrong at this stuff.

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