Seth Davis is the one that really makes him jealous

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Knowing nothing about the guy, I’d think somebody like Greenberg would drive him nuts due to money alone.

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They both just sound silly in that clip.

Speigel and/or Parkins called someone a "mediocre white man", too. Any white guy at that station calling someone else a "mediocre white man" is ridiculous.

Do you think Spiegel and Parkins would ever utter the words “mediocre black guy “in reference to a black sports figure or would the words kinda get stuck in their throats ?

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

To imply that the “LaRussa effect” (if there was one) is bleeding into this year is just absurd and Bernstein should be embarrassed for that take.

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Managers don’t matter, I thought?

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Depends on the manager and if Dan likes him.

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Reader got all of it.

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If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Ding.

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If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

that's going to be the general take, guaranteed

They don't. So how could LaRussa have destroyed the organization? Not to mention the team was better both years he was here.

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Don't take it personally.

Maybe it's like presidents and the economy where La Russa's impact can't be felt and fully assessed until after he's gone. When it seemed like he made the team better, that was just drafting off Renteria. Or something.

Also, I remember "managers can't win you games but they can lose them" being an old B&B talking point.

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This is the moment we were discussing on page 16 of this thread. My take was he was more kvetching about the TLR hire than seriously claiming that the hire was still screwing up the team. However, it was an absolute Dan Bernstein bingo card moment. He went through all his greatest hits.

He's grinding an axe because he has- or believes he has- a political beef with LaRussa.

The idea that Grifol is a "better" manager than LaRussa, even if LaRussa is drunk and half awake, is preposterous. That isn't even really a knock on Grifol. Obviously, LaRussa is just eminently more experienced. If their players didn't suck either one of them could win.

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Don't take it personally.

I don't think it's preposterous. He's just another boomer who thought all he had to do is show up and people will bow. You think Biden, Pelosi, and Feinstein are on their games? I coached for like 15 years. I'd be a shadow of myself if I did it now. C'mon, he had no business in that dugout shitting his pants. Frankly, I'm a little shocked we all haven't been lined up against a wall and shot.

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The modern world is divided between those that would numb itself to its meaninglessness through various substances and various hedonisms and those that realize it and go crazy

He's grinding an axe because he knows it will elicit an emotional response from the audience, that's why he used "mediocre white people" and the dumb guy Chicago accent voice. He probably legitimately doesn't like LaRussa, but not enough to be beating his dead carcass 6+ months after he left town.

Probably true.

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Don't take it personally.

LaRussa was a bad manager and the wrong choice. However, the issues with the team look to be much deeper than who the manager is.

It wasn't long ago that Bernstein preached that the manager didn't matter. All it took was someone with different political positions for that opinion to change.

I’m sure that AJ Hinch would’ve had the team cheating their way to 95 wins every year had they hired him.

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I’d have been fine with it.

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so, do managers matter or not? isnt bernstein the same guy that exhaustively reminds people that the manager doesnt matter and if they do, its like 10 games over the stretch of a season?

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'Your AT&T Universal Card has arrived'? Oh God, Kick-fucking-ass, I got a Master Card! I don't believe it, man. Life is kinda cool sometimes.

I’m watching an NBA halftime show where Greenberg says nothing while making millions. No way Bernstein isn’t envious of a contemporary tribesman making millions to do nothing while covering basketball.

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And being pissed about it because he has great basketball "insight".

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Pick and pop!

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Dan chose to end up being the smart kid in the dumb row.

He can't say that I didn't tell him to his face this would end up being his career arc.

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He can't say that because it didn't happen.

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Can remember a young Dan as an intrepid Bears reporter, he would come on with his odd takes and be mocked by Pappy, Mac, and Murph, an entertainingly odd guy with strange sports thoughts, but a good reporter.

Then we had him with Uncle Terry, at first it was fairly entertaining, more Terry than Dan, then morphed into an odd show where the hosts hyper fixated on topics and droned on and on for hours.

We then had the disaster with Goff, one of the shortest pairings in the history of the station, other than Hamp and Holmes, odd how that Holmes guy keeps getting chances to fail.

Yet another failed short lived pairing with McKnight in which they tried to out liberal each other while boring the audience.

Now we have the Dan and Larry extravaganza, not sure how long this one goes, but maybe the only place in the world where two adult males who are allegedly competent cognitively can fill a complete hour talking about the evil Tony LaRussa, nobody else in the world cares enough to talk for five minutes about the topic than these two.

What a career, amazed the guy has been able to last this long in this market.

The manager only matters if you oppose their political positions.