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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:46 am 
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I don't think people were wrong about RB, you just had GMs that acted irrationally. Even the Lions RB pick himself was shocked that he went at 12. It was expected that Robinson would go anywhere from 8-20. The forecast was fine you just had one GM Ryan Pace himself into overdrafting a guy he could have had later. The RB wasn't in the green room because he and the whole world know he'd go later.

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 Post subject: Re: 2023 Draft, Day 2
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Poles just traded back 90 spots in the 4th.

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Poles just traded back 90 spots in the 4th.

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 Post subject: Re: 2023 Draft, Day 2
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Poles just traded back 90 spots in the 4th.

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They traded the first pick in the 4th round to the Saints for picks 115 and 165.

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Poles just traded back 90 spots in the 4th.

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They traded the first pick in the 4th round to the Saints for picks 115 and 165.


Have you got your Will Levis Titans jersey yet?


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Clawmaster wrote:
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Poles just traded back 90 spots in the 4th.

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They traded the first pick in the 4th round to the Saints for picks 115 and 165.


Have you got your Will Levis Titans jersey yet?


I only collect the jerseys of Bears quarterbacks.

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 Post subject: Re: 2023 Draft, Day 2
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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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Poles just traded back 90 spots in the 4th.

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They traded the first pick in the 4th round to the Saints for picks 115 and 165.


Have you got your Will Levis Titans jersey yet?


I only collect the jerseys of Bears quarterbacks.


Well you have quite a collection then


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Clawmaster wrote:
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Poles just traded back 90 spots in the 4th.

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They traded the first pick in the 4th round to the Saints for picks 115 and 165.


Have you got your Will Levis Titans jersey yet?


I only collect the jerseys of Bears quarterbacks.


Well you have quite a collection then


I'm running out of space.

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 Post subject: Re: 2023 Draft, Day 2
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Is the Jimmy Clausen jersey near the Caleb Hanie one in the Nas cave?


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 Post subject: Re: 2023 Draft, Day 2
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I have no idea what Poles is doing. Ringo is a better corner than that clown they took in round 2


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 Post subject: Re: 2023 Draft, Day 2
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I have no idea what Poles is doing. Ringo is a better corner than that clown they took in round 2


Not by much. Ringo benefits from the talent around him and sucks covering. That's important for a corner.

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The Northwestern kid slid quite a ways, saw some second round grades on him.


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 Post subject: Re: 2023 Draft, Day 2
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And Adebowari, who the Colts just took, is better than any of the DTs they took yesterday


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 Post subject: Re: 2023 Draft, Day 2
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And Adebowari, who the Colts just took, is better than any of the DTs they took yesterday


I agree.

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I’m listening to score propaganda right now and they’re very, very high on the guys taken yesterday.

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The Falcons just had some guy who looks like a lesbian announce their 4th-round pick.

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A bad running back.

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 Post subject: Re: 2023 Draft, Day 2
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A running back they don't need, meanwhile they need a DE and a center


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And Adebowari, who the Colts just took, is better than any of the DTs they took yesterday


I agree.


A higher potential ceiling, but will get washed away against the run if he tries to muscle up against NFL level guards and centers, more of a situational inside pass rush guy with extremely limited production in college.

These guys are all lottery tickets at this point, find it odd that they draft rooms all start clapping and back slapping with every pick knowing that most of these guys will be average at best.


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draft analyst on score was pumping that guy up about 10 min before the pick. Supposedly a really good guy, hard worker, team player, etc. Sat behind Robinson (who wouldn’t) but chose not to transfer to be a team guy. Supposed to be good special teamer.

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 Post subject: Re: 2023 Draft, Day 2
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draft analyst on score was pumping that guy up about 10 min before the pick. Supposedly a really good guy, hard worker, team player, etc. Sat behind Robinson (who wouldn’t) but chose not to transfer to be a team guy. Supposed to be good special teamer.

You beat me to it, was converted from QB and a solid 6'2" 225lbs.

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 Post subject: Re: 2023 Draft, Day 2
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You guys all think you know what you're talking about and I get it -- debate and disagreement is fun -- but we won't know about any of these guys for a while.


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draft analyst on score was pumping that guy up about 10 min before the pick. Supposedly a really good guy, hard worker, team player, etc. Sat behind Robinson (who wouldn’t) but chose not to transfer to be a team guy. Supposed to be good special teamer.

You beat me to it, was converted from QB and a solid 6'2" 225lbs.


He's slow


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A bigger back that can catch the ball, is good in pass protection, and can play special teams, likely the end of the Tristan Ebener era.


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draft analyst on score was pumping that guy up about 10 min before the pick. Supposedly a really good guy, hard worker, team player, etc. Sat behind Robinson (who wouldn’t) but chose not to transfer to be a team guy. Supposed to be good special teamer.

You beat me to it, was converted from QB and a solid 6'2" 225lbs.


He's slow


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draft analyst on score was pumping that guy up about 10 min before the pick. Supposedly a really good guy, hard worker, team player, etc. Sat behind Robinson (who wouldn’t) but chose not to transfer to be a team guy. Supposed to be good special teamer.

You beat me to it, was converted from QB and a solid 6'2" 225lbs.


He's slow


Yes.


Brugler had him as the 7th-best RB and gave him a third-round grade:

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STRENGTHS: Big-boned, broad-shouldered athlete with proportionate bulk … stout, physical runner to breeze through arm tackles … forward finisher, lowering his pads and driving his legs through contact … aggressively presses the line, but also shows patience behind lead blocks … able to find cutback lanes … can force missed tackles in the backfield with his lateral footwork … his stiff-arm is unyielding … enough speed to stretch runs to the boundary or out-pace pursuit … only one career fumble … dogged blocking chops, both in pass protection and as a lead blocker in “21” personnel … shows functional receiving skills out of the backfield … led Texas in special teams tackles (seven) in 2022 — played on all four coverages … addicted to working and self-improvement (was pushing sleds around at age 8) … benefited from the “older brother” theory — his desire to keep up with his older brothers on the field instilled competitive persistence in him at a young age … vocal leader and beloved in the Texas program (NFL scout: “He was Mr. Accountability for that entire offense … and our special teams staff is going to love him.”).

WEAKNESSES: High-cut runner, and run style lacks fluidity … inconsistent rhythm as a ball carrier and guilty of taking extra steps behind the line of scrimmage … feel for run lane development runs hot/cold … physical finisher but often uses too much forward lean at contact and sacrifices his balance … primarily a screen target and unproven running a full route tree … love his fight in pass pro, but must improve his ability to ID blitzers pre-snap (his communication with the offensive line must improve as well) … suffered a broken hand (January 2023) during the first practice at the Senior Bowl … averaged only 9.5 offensive touches per game in his career and wasn’t asked to be the featured back.

SUMMARY: Primarily a backup at Texas, Johnson was a complimentary back in head coach Steve Sarkisian’s spread RPO offense. A high school quarterback, he moved to running back as a Longhorns freshman and played second fiddle to Bijan Robinson but embraced his role in the program and was a central part of the culture shift under the new coaching staff (Sarkisian: “What this guy brings every single day is pretty incredible. He’s so mature. Unbelievable work ethic. Awesome teammate…he’s got the utmost respect of everybody in our building, that is for sure.”). A stout, good-sized runner, Johnson is a two-way creator with his lateral cuts to elude tacklers and the forward momentum to power through contact. With his football character and ability on special teams and as a blocker, his impact without the football is almost as impressive as his ability with the ball. Overall, Johnson is high-cut and can be inconsistent with his run rhythm, but he is a quick-footed, physical ball carrier with valuable third-down skills as a pass-catcher and blocker. He should immediately upgrade an NFL team’s running back rotation and be a core special teamer.

GRADE: 3rd Round (No. 91 overall)

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I have a high degree of confidence that Wright will be a very good player very early in his career.

The three guys the Bears took on Day 2 were selected based on "traits"--most notably their relative athletic scores--and will likely take a while to develop, if they ever do.

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draft analyst on score was pumping that guy up about 10 min before the pick. Supposedly a really good guy, hard worker, team player, etc. Sat behind Robinson (who wouldn’t) but chose not to transfer to be a team guy. Supposed to be good special teamer.

Same guy also believes Dexter reminded Poles of Chris Jones pick for KC when Poles was the director of college scouting.

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Johnson is a sold pick at RB, kid has incredible balance and doesn’t go down on 1st contact. Filling out the roster for the rest of the draft most likely.

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