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Got a tie at the top!

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Kind of felt bad for Denny McCarthy. Winning on the PGA Tour is hard. Still collects a nice check though.

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How cool is this? I always liked him, but now I really like him.

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LIV tour wins! Merges with PGA Tour. Well done Saudi Arabian trillionaires!

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Interesting to see how this shakes out.

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Imagine turning down 9 figures from LIV to avoid a couple inconveniences over ~12 months.

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https://www.pgatour.com/article/news/la ... unify-golf

“ NEW YORK; RIYADH; PONTE VEDRA BEACH, Florida, June 6, 2023 – The PGA TOUR, DP World Tour and the Public Investment Fund (PIF) today announced a landmark agreement to unify the game of golf, on a global basis. The parties have signed an agreement that combines PIF’s golf-related commercial businesses and rights (including LIV Golf) with the commercial businesses and rights of the PGA TOUR and DP World Tour into a new, collectively owned, for-profit entity to ensure that all stakeholders benefit from a model that delivers maximum excitement and competition among the game’s best players.

In addition, PIF will make a capital investment into the new entity to facilitate its growth and success. The new entity (name TBD) will implement a plan to grow these combined commercial businesses, drive greater fan engagement and accelerate growth initiatives already underway. With LIV Golf in the midst of its second, groundbreaking season, the PGA TOUR, DP World Tour and PIF will work together to best feature and grow team golf going forward.

Notably, today’s announcement will be followed by a mutually agreed end to all pending litigation between the participating parties. Further, the three organizations will work cooperatively and in good faith to establish a fair and objective process for any players who desire to re-apply for membership with the PGA TOUR or the DP World Tour following the completion of the 2023 season and for determining fair criteria and terms of re-admission, consistent with each Tour’s policies.

“After two years of disruption and distraction, this is a historic day for the game we all know and love,” said PGA TOUR Commissioner Jay Monahan. “This transformational partnership recognizes the immeasurable strength of the PGA TOUR’s history, legacy and pro-competitive model and combines with it the DP World Tour and LIV – including the team golf concept – to create an organization that will benefit golf’s players, commercial and charitable partners and fans. Going forward, fans can be confident that we will, collectively, deliver on the promise we’ve always made – to promote competition of the best in professional golf and that we are committed to securing and driving the game’s future.

“We are pleased to move forward, in step with LIV and PIF’s world-class investing experience, and I applaud PIF Governor Yasir Al-Rumayyan for his vision and collaborative and forward-thinking approach that is not just a solution to the rift in our game, but also a commitment to taking it to new heights. This will engender a new era in global golf, for the better.”

“Today is a very exciting day for this special game and the people it touches around the world,” said PIF Governor Yasir Al-Rumayyan. “We are proud to partner with the PGA TOUR to leverage PIF’s unparalleled success and track record of unlocking value and bringing innovation and global best practices to business and sectors worldwide. We are committed to unifying, promoting and growing the game of golf around the world and offering the highest-quality product to the many millions of long-time fans globally, while cultivating new fans.

“There is no question that the LIV model has been positively transformative for golf. We believe there are opportunities for the game to evolve while also maintaining its storied history and tradition. This partnership represents the best opportunity to extend and increase the impact of golf for all. We look forward to collaborating with Jay and Keith to bring the best version of the game to communities around the world.”

Under the terms of the agreement, the Board of Directors of the new entity will oversee and direct all the new entity’s golf-related commercial operations, businesses and investments. The new entity will work to ensure a cohesive schedule of events that will be exciting for fans, sponsors and all stakeholders. PIF will initially be the exclusive investor in the new entity, alongside the PGA TOUR, LIV Golf and the DP World Tour. Going forward, PIF will have the exclusive right to further invest in the new entity, including a right of first refusal on any capital that may be invested in the new entity, including into the PGA TOUR, LIV Golf and DP World Tour. The PGA TOUR will appoint a majority of the Board and hold a majority voting interest in the combined entity.

Separately, PGA TOUR Inc. will remain in place as a 501(c)(6) tax exempt organization and retains administrative oversight of events for those assets contributed by the PGA TOUR, including the sanctioning of events, the administration of the competition and rules, as well as all other “inside the ropes” responsibilities, with Jay Monahan as Commissioner and Ed Herlihy as PGA TOUR Policy Board Chairman. PIF’s Governor Yasir Al-Rumayyan will join the PGA TOUR Policy Board. The DP World Tour and LIV Golf will retain similar administrative oversight of events on their respective Tours.”

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So it isn't blood money and sports washing anymore?

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:scratch: :scratch: Well I didn't see that coming. Will be curious to see how much the PGA and DP end up getting out of this. Can't think of another reason they would bow out after 2 years of this.

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PGA folded. Already changed lot of things in response to LIV. Big L for the idiots hand wringing over LIV.


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Definitely a shock for sure. PGA tour did a full 180 overnight. Maybe they got win of legal proceedings that would not go their way.

I do think its good for the majors and Ryder Cup to have the LIV guys who qualify be there. I would imagine this should change things. I wonder what will happen for the US Open as Sergio was the only guy who shot well enough in the qualifiers to make it.

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Sounds like the Saudis have had enough of Greg Norman from the lack of his name on the press release, and from the joint interview I just listened to - the Saudi rep was asked about him, and the response was very hesitant, but basically said Norman was informed right before this went public.

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PGA folded. Already changed lot of things in response to LIV. Big L for the idiots hand wringing over LIV.

Yep. I assume theyll be quitting rather than accept that Saudi blood money ??


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Greg Norman has always been about looking out for Greg Norman. He has been wanting to pick a fight with the PGA Tour since the 90s. Will be interesting to see if he gets some kind of golden parachute to go away. I was a huge Norman fan growing up and learned a lot from reading his golf instructional book as a young player.

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Great player but a complete douche. IMO he's been bad for the game since his playing days ended.

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Greg Norman has always been about looking out for Greg Norman. He has been wanting to pick a fight with the PGA Tour since the 90s. Will be interesting to see if he gets some kind of golden parachute to go away. I was a huge Norman fan growing up and learned a lot from reading his golf instructional book as a young player.

Like him or not he made a lot of players on the PGA tour richer today.

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PGA folded. Already changed lot of things in response to LIV. Big L for the idiots hand wringing over LIV.

Did they or did LIV fold knowing it wasn't working and they were losing money in a fast way. No players on any of the tours or their agents knew anything about this and Norman wasn't even involved.

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Always great seeing the clueless imbeciles stick their nose into a golf thread :lol: :lol:

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Always great seeing the clueless imbeciles stick their nose into a golf thread :lol: :lol:

This is such a gigantic L for the PGA that it’s unclear how Monahan hasn’t committed seppuku.

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It is a huge L for the commissioner that is for sure, the players will be fine. I honestly don't see how Monahan survives this.

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Hopefully this was the reason why Rory started shutting down questions about LIV in the last few weeks (and starting to play better recently), because I would be pissed as hell if I was Rory if he knew nothing about the deal before today.

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It is a huge L for the commissioner that is for sure, the players will be fine. I honestly don't see how Monahan survives this.

Rory has to feel a little wtf this morning.

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Always great seeing the clueless imbeciles stick their nose into a golf thread :lol: :lol:

This is such a gigantic L for the PGA that it’s unclear how Monahan hasn’t committed seppuku.

Its the biggest L a professional sports league has taken maybe ever .

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It is a huge L for the commissioner that is for sure, the players will be fine. I honestly don't see how Monahan survives this.

Both Monahan and Norman going bye bye might not be a bad thing for the sport IMO.

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Always great seeing the clueless imbeciles stick their nose into a golf thread :lol: :lol:

This is such a gigantic L for the PGA that it’s unclear how Monahan hasn’t committed seppuku.

Its the biggest L a professional sports league has taken maybe ever .

There have many leagues that folded, I don't think so.

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