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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:47 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

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good dolphin wrote:

Flus wants a light and mobile OL

David Carr recently said on the NFL Network that the biggest problem with the Bears' offense is the coaching staff.

He said that Flus was uninformed when it comes to quarterback development and that Getsy doesn't understand how to coach a guy with Fields' ability.

Imagine being so good at something that nobody can coach you to make you actually good at that thing.

It's possible that Flus, Getsy and Fields are all bad.

Given the Bears history, this is probably the most likely scenario.

if this thing crashes and burns I can certainly tell you which one of the three will be virtually blameless though.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:48 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

Well, Flus is awfully puffy-chested for a guy whose offensive knowledge comes, as he himself has described, from "talking to Phillip Rivers a lot" about offensive football.

Getsy didn't do much to impress me as a play-caller last year, but he had little to work with.

This is the part of the Bears’ rebuild I don’t understand more than the rest. They hire a defensive minded coach and allocate most of their resources to offense. If the offense succeeds, you’re likely to lose whichever coach made it succeed to a better job elsewhere. Rinse & repeat.

I’m fine with building around Fields if Poles thinks he’s the guy, I just have a very hard time understanding why they felt Flus was the right person for that specific project.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:02 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

This Ends in Antioch wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Flus wants a light and mobile OL

Imagine being so good at something that nobody can coach you to make you actually good at that thing.

It's possible that Flus, Getsy and Fields are all bad.

Given the Bears history, this is probably the most likely scenario.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:03 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

RFDC wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

This Ends in Antioch wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Flus wants a light and mobile OL

Imagine being so good at something that nobody can coach you to make you actually good at that thing.

It's possible that Flus, Getsy and Fields are all bad.

Given the Bears history, this is probably the most likely scenario.

Very true. But I dont think Carr has much insight into whether they are good or bad.

He did have the best running offense in the league

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Crystal Lake Hoffy

Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:04 am

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Is anyone feeling good right now about this season? The offense is struggling against the second unit, which is pretty damning. The amount of negativity from Bears reporting is pretty high. Right now I'm not feeling more than 5-6 wins this year.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:07 am

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I’m slightly optimistic they can contend for a WC.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:14 am

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good dolphin wrote:

we had an offense that could keep up with anyone in the second half

Bears points , week 9 on. 31,34,24,10,19,20,13,10,13. They had a nice spurt midseason. The rest was terrible.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:16 am

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

I think the offense has enough talent to be good. On paper, this is probably the best receiving group the organization has had. I think the back 7 of the defense is good.

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Tall Midget

Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:18 am

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good dolphin wrote:

He did have the best running offense in the league

Opposing defenses seemed happy to let the Bears run on second and third and long situations.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:20 am

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

You and Danny Parkins think alike!

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:21 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

This Ends in Antioch wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

You and Danny Parkins think alike!

We’re basically the same guy.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:24 am

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Nas wrote:

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

I think the offense has enough talent to be good. On paper, this is probably the best receiving group the organization has had. I think the back 7 of the defense is good.

Better than Marshall and Jeffrey?

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:31 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

Nas wrote:

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

I think the offense has enough talent to be good. On paper, this is probably the best receiving group the organization has had. I think the back 7 of the defense is good.

Better than Marshall and Jeffrey?

Yeah, I think the trio of Moore and a healthy Claypool and Mooney would be better than them. I'm not sure if you can count on Claypool and Mooney to be healthy though. Tyler Scott could be an X factor.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:32 am

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all in!

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:32 am

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badrogue17 wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

we had an offense that could keep up with anyone in the second half

Bears points , week 9 on. 31,34,24,10,19,20,13,10,13. They had a nice spurt midseason. The rest was terrible.

Yeah, they had a few high-scoring games because they caught their opponents off guard. Once opposing teams understood what the Bears were trying to do, they handled them rather easily.

Getsy didn't even try to develop Fields as a passer last year. This is certainly an indictment of Fields, but it's also an indictment of Getsy.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy

Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:45 am

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Nas wrote:

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

I think the offense has enough talent to be good. On paper, this is probably the best receiving group the organization has had. I think the back 7 of the defense is good.

Maybe I need to read less X, but it's scary to read several times, "this is just like last training camp" from an offensive perspective. I'd agree, defense should be better; though, there were a few flashes last year outside the line.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:50 am

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I must be reading different reporters because all I see is sunshine and puppy dogs from the offense.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:53 am

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It sounds like Fe'Zahn Edmunds is Urlacher like. That should be fun to watch.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:56 am

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Nas wrote:

It sounds like Fe'Zahn Edmunds is Urlacher like. That should be fun to watch.

I tried telling you all this when they signed him...

His presence in the middle of the field should radically change the passing games of the Packers and Lions.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:57 am

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badrogue17 wrote:

if this thing crashes and burns I can certainly tell you which one of the three will be virtually blameless though.

Kenny Williams?

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:59 am

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Nas wrote:

It sounds like Fe'Zahn Edmunds is Urlacher like. That should be fun to watch.

I tried telling you all this when they signed him...

His presence in the middle of the field should radically change the passing games of the Packers and Lions.

Yep!

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:03 am

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Nas wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Nas wrote:

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

I think the offense has enough talent to be good. On paper, this is probably the best receiving group the organization has had. I think the back 7 of the defense is good.

Better than Marshall and Jeffrey?

Deep in the Kool-Aid.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Nas wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Nas wrote:

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

I think the offense has enough talent to be good. On paper, this is probably the best receiving group the organization has had. I think the back 7 of the defense is good.

Better than Marshall and Jeffrey?

Deep in the Kool-Aid.

How so?

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:48 pm

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Bears sign Yannick Ngakoue DE to a 1 year 10.5 million contract

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RFDC wrote:

Bears sign Yannick Ngakoue DE to a 1 year 10.5 million contract

I like it. No real risk.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:01 pm

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RFDC wrote:

Bears sign Yannick Ngakoue DE to a 1 year 10.5 million contract

I like it. Furious thinks he's a locker room cancer.

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

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RFDC wrote:

Bears sign Yannick Ngakoue DE to a 1 year 10.5 million contract

Great signing.

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He doesn't play the run, but he can get a sack or two

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Post subject: Re: Bears Training Camp

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They desperately need pass rushers and he was probably the best one out there. Plus if they suck they can probably trade him to the eagles for a 4th rounder.

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