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I was in the car picking up a pizza last night, and had the score on with Buffone and Goff, and heard a funny exchange that made me laugh a little. They were talking about bye weeks, and what a player does during a bye week, how it changes the routine. I had to smile when Goff asked Buffone "What did you do during your bye weeks when you were a player?". There was a short pause, and Doug goes "they didnt have bye weeks when i was a player!". Then Goff says "You played 14 straight games without a break?".

Now i am not an old man, but listening to that made me feel like i watched leather helmet football in the "good old days". It was funny, im not pounding on him for it, but i found it funny that someone associated with an arrogant and condescending show like B & B made an honest mistake on air. at least someone associated with that show isnt "all-knowing". i wonder if that makes him a "meatball", and they wont let him on-air anymore.


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so goff knew it was 14 games back then but he didn't know it was 14 straight thru? very odd, so he was half right.

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Back when Doug Buffone was playing, even though the Bears had some really bad teams back then, there was no such thing as a "bye week". There weren't any NFL teams playing in Indianapolis, Nashville, Seattle, Phoenix, Tampa or Jacksonville... :wink: I think the subject caught the much younger Jason Goff off guard... :lol:


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Now i am not an old man, but listening to that made me feel like i watched leather helmet football in the "good old days". It was funny, im not pounding on him for it, but i found it funny that someone associated with an arrogant and condescending show like B & B made an honest mistake on air. at least someone associated with that show isnt "all-knowing". i wonder if that makes him a "meatball", and they wont let him on-air anymore.

There's seriously something wrong with you...

Who said B&B thought they were "all-knowing?" They give their opinions...that's what they're paid to do. How is that different from any other show anywhere?

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Who said B&B thought they were "all-knowing?"


Dan Bernstein, for one...and if you disagree with him, he'll talk over you until you do agree...


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Man, this is getting comical.

I didn't know it was a requirement for hosts to be all "happy, happy, hooray for everything" types.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
man of few opinions wrote:
Now i am not an old man, but listening to that made me feel like i watched leather helmet football in the "good old days". It was funny, im not pounding on him for it, but i found it funny that someone associated with an arrogant and condescending show like B & B made an honest mistake on air. at least someone associated with that show isnt "all-knowing". i wonder if that makes him a "meatball", and they wont let him on-air anymore.

There's seriously something wrong with you...

Who said B&B thought they were "all-knowing?" They give their opinions...that's what they're paid to do. How is that different from any other show anywhere?


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the point of my post is that it was funny when goff asked buffone what he did during his bye weeks. what is really funny is how you over-react and jump all over anyone who dares make any remark slightly critical of B and B. i have no problem with them for the most part, i listen fairly often. if a knowledgeable yet pompous, condescending sports talk host paired with a cranky, ill-informed, giggling boob is your bag, than enjoy the show. but to say that they aren't a little self-important is funny. its a radio program - don't get all sweaty and defensive.


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lipidquadcab wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Who said B&B thought they were "all-knowing?"

Dan Bernstein, for one...and if you disagree with him, he'll talk over you until you do agree...

As that other guy says, YES!


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man of few opinions wrote:
if a knowledgeable yet pompous, condescending sports talk host paired with a cranky, ill-informed, giggling boob is your bag, than enjoy the show. but to say that they aren't a little self-important is funny. its a radio program - don't get all sweaty and defensive.

Would you expect anything less from a B&B apologist such as myself? C'mon now.

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as I've said before, if you are well spoken, even if you disagree with them, they will keep you on and not talk over you. Case in point-when the Cubs were headed to a playoff set with the Dodgers, I called up and predicted the Cubs would be swept. After laying out a couple of concise reasons, they kept me on the air for five minutes having a reasoned discorse. We agreed to disagree. I was right, and called back the next week, and Terry apologized to me on-air. It just takes being intelligent.

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as I've said before, if you are well spoken, even if you disagree with them, they will keep you on and not talk over you. Case in point-when the Cubs were headed to a playoff set with the Dodgers, I called up and predicted the Cubs would be swept. After laying out a couple of concise reasons, they kept me on the air for five minutes having a reasoned discorse. We agreed to disagree. I was right, and called back the next week, and Terry apologized to me on-air. It just takes being intelligent.

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City of Fools wrote:
as I've said before, if you are well spoken, even if you disagree with them, they will keep you on and not talk over you. Case in point-when the Cubs were headed to a playoff set with the Dodgers, I called up and predicted the Cubs would be swept. After laying out a couple of concise reasons, they kept me on the air for five minutes having a reasoned discorse. We agreed to disagree. I was right, and called back the next week, and Terry apologized to me on-air. It just takes being intelligent.


i dont disagree with any of that. i have heard them have good discussions with callers before. it doesnt change the fact that if they dont think a caller is as smart as they are, they are condescending, pompous and arrogant, and behave badly. you are right though, if you sound as smart as they think they are, you are fine. if you make the mistake of calling and misspeaking, or not speaking the kings english, or having an opinion that they deem to be not well thought out, you get drilled and ridiculed, and to the fans of the show, i guess that is good entertainment, but that is where they lose me. i love a lot of the sports talk, i think dan is very well prepared, maybe the best prepared every day on either major sports station, and that is why i listen, but when he and terry start abusing people who "deserve" it, i punch the button. no biggie, im a believer in the whole "if you dont like it switch the channel" theory.


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did you change your sig line and add the last two sentances?

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City of Fools wrote:
did you change your sig line and add the last two sentances?


same old sig line here, if you are referring to me.


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as I've said before, if you are well spoken, even if you disagree with them, they will keep you on and not talk over you. Case in point-when the Cubs were headed to a playoff set with the Dodgers, I called up and predicted the Cubs would be swept. After laying out a couple of concise reasons, they kept me on the air for five minutes having a reasoned discorse. We agreed to disagree. I was right, and called back the next week, and Terry apologized to me on-air. It just takes being intelligent.


i remember the first call..

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man of few opinions wrote:
I was in the car picking up a pizza last night, and had the score on with Buffone and Goff, and heard a funny exchange that made me laugh a little. They were talking about bye weeks, and what a player does during a bye week, how it changes the routine. I had to smile when Goff asked Buffone "What did you do during your bye weeks when you were a player?". There was a short pause, and Doug goes "they didnt have bye weeks when i was a player!". Then Goff says "You played 14 straight games without a break?".

Now i am not an old man, but listening to that made me feel like i watched leather helmet football in the "good old days". It was funny, im not pounding on him for it, but i found it funny that someone associated with an arrogant and condescending show like B & B made an honest mistake on air. at least someone associated with that show isnt "all-knowing". i wonder if that makes him a "meatball", and they wont let him on-air anymore.


Have you ever heard of sarcasm? A form of humor that is marked by mocking with irony, sometimes conveyed in speech with vocal over-emphasis. Saying something that is opposite of what is intended to be meant. Pretty sure Goff was employing it here.

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I was in the car picking up a pizza last night, and had the score on with Buffone and Goff, and heard a funny exchange that made me laugh a little. They were talking about bye weeks, and what a player does during a bye week, how it changes the routine. I had to smile when Goff asked Buffone "What did you do during your bye weeks when you were a player?". There was a short pause, and Doug goes "they didnt have bye weeks when i was a player!". Then Goff says "You played 14 straight games without a break?".

Now i am not an old man, but listening to that made me feel like i watched leather helmet football in the "good old days". It was funny, im not pounding on him for it, but i found it funny that someone associated with an arrogant and condescending show like B & B made an honest mistake on air. at least someone associated with that show isnt "all-knowing". i wonder if that makes him a "meatball", and they wont let him on-air anymore.


Have you ever heard of sarcasm? A form of humor that is marked by mocking with irony, sometimes conveyed in speech with vocal over-emphasis. Saying something that is opposite of what is intended to be meant. Pretty sure Goff was employing it here.

perhaps, though i don't think so. did you hear the exchange?


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man of few opinions wrote:
Johnny Chimpo wrote:
man of few opinions wrote:
I was in the car picking up a pizza last night, and had the score on with Buffone and Goff, and heard a funny exchange that made me laugh a little. They were talking about bye weeks, and what a player does during a bye week, how it changes the routine. I had to smile when Goff asked Buffone "What did you do during your bye weeks when you were a player?". There was a short pause, and Doug goes "they didnt have bye weeks when i was a player!". Then Goff says "You played 14 straight games without a break?".

Now i am not an old man, but listening to that made me feel like i watched leather helmet football in the "good old days". It was funny, im not pounding on him for it, but i found it funny that someone associated with an arrogant and condescending show like B & B made an honest mistake on air. at least someone associated with that show isnt "all-knowing". i wonder if that makes him a "meatball", and they wont let him on-air anymore.


Have you ever heard of sarcasm? A form of humor that is marked by mocking with irony, sometimes conveyed in speech with vocal over-emphasis. Saying something that is opposite of what is intended to be meant. Pretty sure Goff was employing it here.

perhaps, though i don't think so. did you hear the exchange?


Yes. I could be wrong, but I thought Goff was needling Doug for a bit of entertainment value, knowing full well how Doug would react.

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well, i have no beefs with goff, so if it was tongue-in-cheek (though im still not sure it was) i stand corrected. it sounded pretty dry and uncomfortable to me. i was only in the car for a few minutes listening, so maybe i missed the intention of the remarks. goff seems very intelligent about sports, so it did seem surprising at the time. i think he is pretty good when he is on-air away from the afternoon giggle-and-snort fest.


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Well I knew that the league was playing only 14 games a season but they moved to 16 per season 6 years before Doug started. So I was trying to be funny but if there is one thing I try to know it's the history of the games. Even though I was off by 6 years :lol:

And if he did play in those years with only 14 games (even though he didn't) without a bye week it would be 14 straight games wouldn't it?


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Bye weeks didn't start in the NFL until the early 1990s. I want to say 1992 or 1993. There was 1 or 2 years that each team had 2 bye weeks, Jason. I'm not as bad as Les Grobstein but I know a lot of useless information. Sports history sticks to my brain.

Doug was a rookie in 1966 right Jason? Pretty sure that was a 14 game schedule. I don't think the 16 game schedule started until the mid 1970s.


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Actually I think it was a 14 game season from 61-77.


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Right. I remember a lot of people saying Payton breaking Jim Brown's record shouldn't count cuz he had 2 more games per season over Jim Brown.


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Right. I remember a lot of people saying Payton breaking Jim Brown's record shouldn't count cuz he had 2 more games per season over Jim Brown.


I thought that was more of an issue with Dickerson breaking Simpson's single season record than Payton.

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yes...
it was Dickerson.

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Right. I remember a lot of people saying Payton breaking Jim Brown's record shouldn't count cuz he had 2 more games per season over Jim Brown.


I thought that was more of an issue with Dickerson breaking Simpson's single season record than Payton.


Both, really. There is something to be said for that. 2 games per season is a huge advantage for Payton and Dickerson. Payton played 13 years. That's 26 extra games. He only missed 1 in his career. Brown only played 9 years. He could still have the record if he played 13 years. Even with 9 years, if he had a 16 game schedule, that would be 18 more games for him.

But, like B&B point out, Brown played against a lot of shitty white people. More so than today's NFL.


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Well I knew that the league was playing only 14 games a season but they moved to 16 per season 6 years before Doug started. So I was trying to be funny but if there is one thing I try to know it's the history of the games. Even though I was off by 6 years :lol:

And if he did play in those years with only 14 games (even though he didn't) without a bye week it would be 14 straight games wouldn't it?


as i mentioned in earlier posts, my intention was never to take anyone to the woodshed for saying something wrong or silly on the air. my first reaction was that it made me feel old because i still think of "bye weeks" as a recent thing, but now they have actually been around for quite a while, and maybe some of the younger on-air guys lose track of that or something. that made me smile a bit, and your reactions when it was said cracked me up!

i was only in the car a short while as i mentioned, and i acknowledged i could have had the context wrong, and i can live with that. regardless, i thought it was funny radio, and i like your show when you are on the air. i love the football shows with OB and doug and you as well, and im not even a bears fan! the bears talk on saturday and sunday are the best things going on the score, in my opinion.


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But, like B&B point out, Brown played against a lot of shitty white people. More so than today's NFL.


yes.
it's funny to see those old clips of Brown. He appears 6" taller, 40lbs heavier, and faster than everyone.


I don't remember the Payton talk, but I do remember the Dickerson stuff....

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I guess the thing I remember most with Payton was that most of the liberal elite media diminished it to some extent because they just thought that Brown was better and more dominant.

I don't remember them giving specific reasons as much as just saying Brown quit early and could have gotten many more yards. But, the additional games per season would certainly be one of those reasons.

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