Hoerner is hitting .280 with a .743 OPS
Luis Arraez is hitting .361 with an .870 OPS

Bob's beloved WAR says that Hoerner is better. This is another example of how looking at only one stat can be a bad way of evaluating things.

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Interesting the Subdivision uses positional defense to shit on Grandal every chance they get, but doesn't acknowledge it when it comes to Hoener ... Fucking a group of John Kerry's here.

You can't make this shit up

Sure. And I’m balancing his slightly below average hitting with his slightly above average fielding at 2B.

Seems fair.

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In his best season, he scratched the top tercile in dWAR.

You’d think we’re talking about Roberto Alomar here.

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Maybe you're right but I haven't watched a random game in two months because more often than not, it's unwatchable. Might as well take RS off the books.

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Wattabout Kodak Black?

At least we don't shit on Grandal when Seby Zavala is playing catcher; viewtopic.php?f=33&t=130254&start=90#p3942531

Fucking genius.

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White Sox are the worst defensive team I've ever seen and they're only 7th worst in MLB. I mean, if the CARDINALS DON'T GIVE A SHIT, it's over.

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Wattabout Kodak Black?

C'mon. How can there be a half dozen teams worse than the Sox? How fucking bad at math are these baseball nerds? Is there a team playing with only 8 in the field we don't know about?

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Uh, no it doesn't Arraez WAR is 4.6 and Nico is at 3.8.

That bus just gets shorter and shorter every time Frank posts .

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Bob doesn't use baseball reference, and the fangraphs filter I used ended in June. My mistake.

However, Hoerner is 6th in WAR with all MLB second basemen, and 5th in NL second basemen.


If a bootlicker and a vaccinated genius don't think highly of me as they continue to run up their White Sox post count, well that's a compliment more than anything

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Simple Frank

dolphin is 100 percent correct on the history of Madrigal on the WSox.

But the fallacy of Hahn and the WSox was thinking he was some 10 year vet. He was still a rookie when all this happened but they didnt allow him to make rookie mistakes. They fooled themselves thinking the rest of their prospects were all going to pan our and they were back in 2020. He was seen as the weakest link when in reality, if they waited, he was the only prospect other than Robert that panned out. While the others were one hit wonders or the Sox fucked them up themselves like Crochet.