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Yeah, Young has very nice footwork and I anticipate he will move in the pocket quite well as he gets accustomed to the NFL. His size may nevertheless limit how effective he can be as a pocket passer.

Fields has shown no signs thus far that he understands how to move up in the pocket. Part of the problem is the interior line, as Claw said, but he is also part of the problem.



If the man doesn't know how to "move up in the pocket", how did he get credit for all of those rushing yards?


C'mon bro we are trying to have a serious discussion here, save the goofy stuff for the grab ass sections.



Saying that Fields doesn't "know how" to move up in the pocket is in its self really goofy stuff. There is no basis to say that he doesn't understand how to move up in the pocket. He did exactly that in every game he played last season.

Also, to those who want to declare Fields a failure because he may not be a "pocket passer" ala Brady, Manning, et al, I think that he will be able to use both his legs and arms to win football games. Mahomes is the best example of what his natural talent is geared toward. Iam not saying he will be as great as Mahomes, but he clearly has very similar natural talent but has clearly lacked the coaching and team talent to help develop that talent.

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I think Bagent gets picked up if the Bears try to sneak him through to the practice squad. Seems to have a presence and gets rid of the ball quick. The thing we didn't see were any vertical passes over 10 yards in the air.


Bagent has made the team. No way he gets cut.

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Yeah, Young has very nice footwork and I anticipate he will move in the pocket quite well as he gets accustomed to the NFL. His size may nevertheless limit how effective he can be as a pocket passer.

Fields has shown no signs thus far that he understands how to move up in the pocket. Part of the problem is the interior line, as Claw said, but he is also part of the problem.



If the man doesn't know how to "move up in the pocket", how did he get credit for all of those rushing yards?


C'mon bro we are trying to have a serious discussion here, save the goofy stuff for the grab ass sections.



Saying that Fields doesn't "know how" to move up in the pocket is in its self really goofy stuff. There is no basis to say that he doesn't understand how to move up in the pocket. He did exactly that in every game he played last season.

Also, to those who want to declare Fields a failure because he may not be a "pocket passer" ala Brady, Manning, et al, I think that he will be able to use both his legs and arms to win football games. Mahomes is the best example of what his natural talent is geared toward. Iam not saying he will be as great as Mahomes, but he clearly has very similar natural talent but has clearly lacked the coaching and team talent to help develop that talent.


Mahomes was lightning out of the gate without coaching. Fields isn't being held back by coaching. His vision sucks. That's it.

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The Hawk wrote:
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Yeah, Young has very nice footwork and I anticipate he will move in the pocket quite well as he gets accustomed to the NFL. His size may nevertheless limit how effective he can be as a pocket passer.

Fields has shown no signs thus far that he understands how to move up in the pocket. Part of the problem is the interior line, as Claw said, but he is also part of the problem.



If the man doesn't know how to "move up in the pocket", how did he get credit for all of those rushing yards?


C'mon bro we are trying to have a serious discussion here, save the goofy stuff for the grab ass sections.



Saying that Fields doesn't "know how" to move up in the pocket is in its self really goofy stuff. There is no basis to say that he doesn't understand how to move up in the pocket. He did exactly that in every game he played last season.

Also, to those who want to declare Fields a failure because he may not be a "pocket passer" ala Brady, Manning, et al, I think that he will be able to use both his legs and arms to win football games. Mahomes is the best example of what his natural talent is geared toward. Iam not saying he will be as great as Mahomes, but he clearly has very similar natural talent but has clearly lacked the coaching and team talent to help develop that talent.


Fields rarely, if ever, moves up in the pocket to pass.

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Yeah, Young has very nice footwork and I anticipate he will move in the pocket quite well as he gets accustomed to the NFL. His size may nevertheless limit how effective he can be as a pocket passer.

Fields has shown no signs thus far that he understands how to move up in the pocket. Part of the problem is the interior line, as Claw said, but he is also part of the problem.



If the man doesn't know how to "move up in the pocket", how did he get credit for all of those rushing yards?


C'mon bro we are trying to have a serious discussion here, save the goofy stuff for the grab ass sections.



Saying that Fields doesn't "know how" to move up in the pocket is in its self really goofy stuff. There is no basis to say that he doesn't understand how to move up in the pocket. He did exactly that in every game he played last season.

Also, to those who want to declare Fields a failure because he may not be a "pocket passer" ala Brady, Manning, et al, I think that he will be able to use both his legs and arms to win football games. Mahomes is the best example of what his natural talent is geared toward. Iam not saying he will be as great as Mahomes, but he clearly has very similar natural talent but has clearly lacked the coaching and team talent to help develop that talent.


Take it to the grab ass section bro. Everyone knows what it means to maintain footwork and vision by moving up or stepping up in the pocket you also hear the term, "climb the pocket".

You silly take that he moved up in the pocket by scrambling really makes one question your football acumen.

So here's what ya do bro, next time you watch a QB, watch how he maintains his mechanics under pressure, the good one's will step up in the pocket which gains them the extra half second for the play to open, the bad ones will drop their eyes, drop their arm angle, and their footwork will breakdown, or simply they will move from a good throwing posture to a bad one, they also lose full vision of the field.

If you think Fields is a finished product as a passer you are entitled to that opinion, but you will find that is a very lonely take.

The more...enlightened football people are likely wondering if that is something you can learn, or if that is purely an instinct that good QB's are born with, would venture to say coaches think you can teach it because one of the primary QB drills they do every single day.


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I think Bagent gets picked up if the Bears try to sneak him through to the practice squad. Seems to have a presence and gets rid of the ball quick. The thing we didn't see were any vertical passes over 10 yards in the air.


Bagent has made the team. No way he gets cut.


Yup, question is do they keep three QBs, and do they cut Walker.

I agree there is no way Bagent makes it to the practice squad, he's shown way too much ability at this point.


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Just read that there is a new 3rd QB rule that allows a team to keep a 3rd QB that does not count towards their 53 man roster and is also not on the practice squad. If that is true then they absolutely need to keep Bagent in that role.

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Just read that there is a new 3rd QB rule that allows a team to keep a 3rd QB that does not count towards their 53 man roster and is also not on the practice squad. If that is true then they absolutely need to keep Bagent in that role.



Yeah, it's between Walker or Peterman to be the odd man out.

Walker was guaranteed $2M, so I'm going to bet that he stays.

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Just read that there is a new 3rd QB rule that allows a team to keep a 3rd QB that does not count towards their 53 man roster and is also not on the practice squad. If that is true then they absolutely need to keep Bagent in that role.



Yeah, it's between Walker or Peterman to be the odd man out.

Walker was guaranteed $2M, so I'm going to bet that he stays.


It’d be something and so Bears for them to finally find a real QB from an undrafted rookie. Obviously a long way from that, but I would love to see it.

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Just read that there is a new 3rd QB rule that allows a team to keep a 3rd QB that does not count towards their 53 man roster and is also not on the practice squad. If that is true then they absolutely need to keep Bagent in that role.



Yeah, it's between Walker or Peterman to be the odd man out.

Walker was guaranteed $2M, so I'm going to bet that he stays.


It’d be something and so Bears for them to finally find a real QB from an undrafted rookie. Obviously a long way from that, but I would love to see it.

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3rd QB still has to be on the 53 man. You don't get 53 players + a 3rd QB. What it allows is to dress that 3rd QB from the 53 man on gameday without it counting against the min 44 max 48 (depending on how many linemen dress?) limit. So teams can have an extra QB suit up on gameday without counting against the 47 or 48 man gameday roster limit--but that 3rd QB still eats up one of the 53 man spots.


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Yeah, Young has very nice footwork and I anticipate he will move in the pocket quite well as he gets accustomed to the NFL. His size may nevertheless limit how effective he can be as a pocket passer.

Fields has shown no signs thus far that he understands how to move up in the pocket. Part of the problem is the interior line, as Claw said, but he is also part of the problem.



If the man doesn't know how to "move up in the pocket", how did he get credit for all of those rushing yards?


C'mon bro we are trying to have a serious discussion here, save the goofy stuff for the grab ass sections.



Saying that Fields doesn't "know how" to move up in the pocket is in its self really goofy stuff. There is no basis to say that he doesn't understand how to move up in the pocket. He did exactly that in every game he played last season.

Also, to those who want to declare Fields a failure because he may not be a "pocket passer" ala Brady, Manning, et al, I think that he will be able to use both his legs and arms to win football games. Mahomes is the best example of what his natural talent is geared toward. Iam not saying he will be as great as Mahomes, but he clearly has very similar natural talent but has clearly lacked the coaching and team talent to help develop that talent.


Mahomes was lightning out of the gate without coaching. Fields isn't being held back by coaching. His vision sucks. That's it.


Mahomes did not play in his first year but rather learned under a great head coach and terrific veteran quarterback in Smith, a guy who knew how to move around in and out of the pocket. You say he will be a bust who cannot learn nor improve as other have said. Now we have a guy who claims he has "no vision". Funny shit.

This was a fine assessment of what Mahomes had to Learn with his year apprenticing under Smith and the Chiefs. This and other articles said how his natural instinct in college was to break the pocket and run and he learned how to use his legs in his development. He, Mahomes also had Pro bowl caliber offensive linemen and receivers unlike Fields who had crap for both linemen and receivers. WHere exactly was Fields supposed to move up in the pocket at?


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When you watch Patrick Mahomes’ college tape, it’s easy to get caught up in the arm talent. He throws the ball all over the yard and he does it from all over the field. We all talk about his school yard style, and that’s where a lot of the Favre comparisons come from. We’ve all seen plays of Mahomes putting his insane arm talent on display. He escapes pressure, rolls out and flicks a ball 50 yards down field with minimal effort. You can find several plays of him creating big plays off scrambles.

It's great that he can do that, and he’ll certainly use the talent to his advantage. But there's an attribute to Mahomes that people aren't talking enough about and is a very underrated part of his game: He has the potential to be lethal against pressure in the pocket in the NFL. He already shows the traits (although unrefined) needed to do that at the highest level.

After watching his college tape the last seven months, I do believe his first inclination is try to win from the pocket first and scramble out of the play as a last resort. He has a good feel for when to bail and when to stay. I think he wants to deliver throws with the routes called and the circumstances at Texas Tech led him to have to be more creative most of the time.

The structure of the pocket Mahomes will have in the NFL is significantly different than what he experienced in college. Texas Tech uses a unique pass protection scheme that you will never see in the NFL. They use wide splits and their tackles often open up early to the sideline as part of their pass set. It forced Mahomes to take odd angles and routes at times to escape pressure when his linemen got beat.

Mahomes won’t be able to get away from pressure the exact same way in the NFL as he did in college. He’ll have to make more subtle adjustments to escape pressure in a tighter area. In my opinion the drastic adjustments he had to make in college have more to do with the protections and play calls than his desire just to run around and make plays outside of the pocket. Before looking to scramble, he looks to find a receiver on their original route.


You can find several instances of Mahomes doing what he can to try and hang in the pocket to deliver a throw. He feels where the pressure is coming from and understands spacing. When he does, he’s deadly. A defense can do everything right but have the result ruined by a quarterback managing the pressure and finding a completion.

Mahomes steps up and finds an easy completion with YAC. Doesn't bail on the play call entirely. Executes original route construction. pic.twitter.com/sJCJnGvFcC

— Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) July 26, 2017
Making plays out of the pocket is important and valuable. But beating a team inside the pocket can be more just as lucrative and more safe and efficient. When a quarterback scrambles out of the pocket, it initiates scramble rules for the receivers. Based on where the quarterback scrambles to, the receivers make adjustments on their routes. If scramble rules are initiated, the quarterback has to find a clear escape from the pocket in order to find an open receiver. If play structure wasn’t important, we’d just have quarterbacks and receivers running around like flag football every down. While those plays can be explosive, you have to rely on a lot of things to happen to find a completion.

Pass coverage is designed to hold up long enough for defenders to get to the quarterback. You can’t cover every receiver for an extended period of time. Even against good coverage, the longer a receiver runs his route, the more difficult it becomes to keep him covered. If you can hang on in the pocket and deliver a throw before scramble rules are initiated, there’s less things that have to occur before you can execute a throw and the payoff can be just as good as a scramble. With good pocket presence, there’s also less negative plays than when you scramble. The risk for a sack or throwaway isn't as high.

Full field read after stepping up and away from pressure. Arrives at a big play on a nothing throw. pic.twitter.com/i7TKT7T8Fv

— Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) July 26, 2017
One of the things that separates the likes of Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers from others is their willingness to find completions from the pocket and resorting to scrambles as a last ditch effort to salvage a play. They want to give a play every chance it has to be executed as designed. It’s not something a lot of people can do. Being able to feel pressure and make small adjustments to give yourself enough space is an elite skill set. Mahomes possesses the traits to one day be able to do it a high level.

It’s one thing to be able to move around in the pocket. It’s another thing to be able to see the play unfold while you do it. Seeing the play while under duress is critical if you want to be an elite quarterback. I’m not convinced this a trait that can be taught. There's a level of fearlessness involved. You either have it or you don’t. Mahomes’ college tape shows someone who is able to see the play under pressure.

This is the kind of pocket congestion Mahomes will see in the NFL. Doesn't let it phase him, steps in and finds a play downfield. pic.twitter.com/BbvJHPmK7w

— Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) July 27, 2017
Some quarterbacks will drop their eyes when they have to adjust in the pocket. While they’re able to keep the play alive, they may not be able to find the big play or any play at all because they aren’t looking to find a receiver while avoiding a sack. To be good in the pocket, you have to able to navigate both the play and the pressure to find an open receivers.

This subject is a prime example of the learning curve Mahomes has. While he'll take time to learn how to maneuver differently in the pocket, the physical and mental traits are there to be exceptional. He shows a ton of ability, but adjusting to different footwork and techniques takes time. Most of it is just tightening it all up to be as efficient with his movement as possible. His mental process and awareness are there, he just needs to turn new mechanics into reflexes off those capabilities. If he does, he'll be terrifying.

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Yeah, Young has very nice footwork and I anticipate he will move in the pocket quite well as he gets accustomed to the NFL. His size may nevertheless limit how effective he can be as a pocket passer.

Fields has shown no signs thus far that he understands how to move up in the pocket. Part of the problem is the interior line, as Claw said, but he is also part of the problem.



If the man doesn't know how to "move up in the pocket", how did he get credit for all of those rushing yards?


C'mon bro we are trying to have a serious discussion here, save the goofy stuff for the grab ass sections.



Saying that Fields doesn't "know how" to move up in the pocket is in its self really goofy stuff. There is no basis to say that he doesn't understand how to move up in the pocket. He did exactly that in every game he played last season.

Also, to those who want to declare Fields a failure because he may not be a "pocket passer" ala Brady, Manning, et al, I think that he will be able to use both his legs and arms to win football games. Mahomes is the best example of what his natural talent is geared toward. Iam not saying he will be as great as Mahomes, but he clearly has very similar natural talent but has clearly lacked the coaching and team talent to help develop that talent.


Mahomes was lightning out of the gate without coaching. Fields isn't being held back by coaching. His vision sucks. That's it.


Mahomes did not play in his first year but rather learned under a great head coach and terrific veteran quarterback in Smith, a guy who knew how to move around in and out of the pocket. You say he will be a bust who cannot learn nor improve as other have said. Now we have a guy who claims he has "no vision". Funny shit.


Just my opinion, but it certainly seems like Fields lost his first year of development. He was behind Dalton his first year, splitting reps with Foles during training camp. He was thrown in to the fire several games in and looked every bit the part of a rookie QB. Then this coaching staff made major changes to Fields' throwing motion and his footwork. One would think those changes would have been applied under Nagy, which makes me assume that he received little coaching his rookie season. If that is all true, then you almost have to consider this his second season in the league and adjust expectations accordingly.

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I think Bagent gets picked up if the Bears try to sneak him through to the practice squad. Seems to have a presence and gets rid of the ball quick. The thing we didn't see were any vertical passes over 10 yards in the air.


Bagent has made the team. No way he gets cut.


Yup, question is do they keep three QBs, and do they cut Walker.

I agree there is no way Bagent makes it to the practice squad, he's shown way too much ability at this point.


That is true. He is athletic, mobile, and looks very confident out there.

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Jimmy is still a lightweight compared to those two Stay Puff guys called Colts announcers.

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Just my opinion, but it certainly seems like Fields lost his first year of development. He was behind Dalton his first year, splitting reps with Foles during training camp. He was thrown in to the fire several games in and looked every bit the part of a rookie QB. Then this coaching staff made major changes to Fields' throwing motion and his footwork. One would think those changes would have been applied under Nagy, which makes me assume that he received little coaching his rookie season. If that is all true, then you almost have to consider this his second season in the league and adjust expectations accordingly.[/quote]


That is certainly how I view it.

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I just watched the Colts game.

St Brown still can't catch.
Pickens looks solid.
Sanborn a step slow, but physical.
Pettis will be cut.
Walker is an awful quarterback.
Leatherwood looks good run blocking.
The Bears don't have CB depth.
Stevenson has to catch the ball
Bagent looks like the best passer on the team
Bears running backs are good

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Yeah, Young has very nice footwork and I anticipate he will move in the pocket quite well as he gets accustomed to the NFL. His size may nevertheless limit how effective he can be as a pocket passer.

Fields has shown no signs thus far that he understands how to move up in the pocket. Part of the problem is the interior line, as Claw said, but he is also part of the problem.



If the man doesn't know how to "move up in the pocket", how did he get credit for all of those rushing yards?


C'mon bro we are trying to have a serious discussion here, save the goofy stuff for the grab ass sections.



Saying that Fields doesn't "know how" to move up in the pocket is in its self really goofy stuff. There is no basis to say that he doesn't understand how to move up in the pocket. He did exactly that in every game he played last season.

Also, to those who want to declare Fields a failure because he may not be a "pocket passer" ala Brady, Manning, et al, I think that he will be able to use both his legs and arms to win football games. Mahomes is the best example of what his natural talent is geared toward. Iam not saying he will be as great as Mahomes, but he clearly has very similar natural talent but has clearly lacked the coaching and team talent to help develop that talent.


Fields rarely, if ever, moves up in the pocket to pass.



Apparently Keyshawn Johnson and others say he does?

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Patrick Mahomes of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Justin Fields has a long way to go to get on the same level as Kansas City Chiefs star Patrick Mahomes but former Pro Bowl receiver Keyshawn Johnson sees shades of the MVP signal caller in the Chicago Bears quarterback.

Fields was the No. 11 overall pick of the Bears in 2021 and is coming off a rookie season where he passed for 1,870 yards, seven touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He’s expected to take a leap in his second season and shined in the Bears’ final preseason game, tearing up the Browns defense. He completed 81.3 percent of his passes for 156 yards and three scores.

Johnson was watching that game and felt Fields’ ability to manufacture offense was comparable to Mahomes.



“You know what he [Fields] has that I just picked up on?” Johnson said on “Keyshawn, JWill and Max” on Monday. “Does he got a little Patrick Mahomes in him? I’m just talking about his ability to move around and throw the football.”

A clip then played of Fields rolling out of the pocket and finding a receiver along the sideline for a first down. The Ohio State product avoided pressure, stepped up and found the open man, which wasn’t overly impressive but got Johnson thinking.


“It just dawned on me right here on this play,” Johnson said. “Bam! He’s out. Eyes down the field, he throws a ball to his left down the sideline. That’s Patrick Mahomes.”

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It’ll be interesting to see how Fields does this season behind an offensive line that PFF ranked as the second-worst in football and a wide receiver corps with few proven playmakers.

Mahomes, on the other hand, has been an absolute monster since taking over the starting role in Kansas City. And he’s poised for another big year, despite the Chiefs moving on from one of his top weapons in Tyreek Hill.

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The story you cited describes him rolling out of the pocket, not stepping up in the pocket.

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Teven Jenkins is injured....again.



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It's time for Leatherwood or someone else to take over. The kid is fragile.

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It's time for Leatherwood or someone else to take over. The kid is fragile.


According to the beat reporters, Carter has had a good camp and will be the starter in place of Jenkins.

The problem is that like Jenkins, Nate Davis is also injury prone. The Bears do not appear to have a competent guard behind Carter, who himself is unproven.

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It's time for Leatherwood or someone else to take over. The kid is fragile.


According to the beat reporters, Carter has had a good camp and will be the starter in place of Jenkins.

The problem is that like Jenkins, Nate Davis is also injury prone. The Bears do not appear to have a competent guard behind Carter, who himself is unproven.


That interior is a mess. So many questions.

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even if Jenkins is good, I'd never feel comfortable signing him to anything but short deals and you will always have to have a high priced backup

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Nas wrote:
I just watched the Colts game.

St Brown still can't catch.
Pickens looks solid.
Sanborn a step slow, but physical.
Pettis will be cut.
Walker is an awful quarterback.
Leatherwood looks good run blocking.
The Bears don't have CB depth.
Stevenson has to catch the ball
Bagent looks like the best passer on the team
Bears running backs are good

Any thoughts on QB1?

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Nas wrote:
I just watched the Colts game.

St Brown still can't catch.
Pickens looks solid.
Sanborn a step slow, but physical.
Pettis will be cut.
Walker is an awful quarterback.
Leatherwood looks good run blocking.
The Bears don't have CB depth.
Stevenson has to catch the ball
Bagent looks like the best passer on the team
Bears running backs are good

Any thoughts on QB1?


Did he play in the Colts game?

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I just watched the Colts game.

St Brown still can't catch.
Pickens looks solid.
Sanborn a step slow, but physical.
Pettis will be cut.
Walker is an awful quarterback.
Leatherwood looks good run blocking.
The Bears don't have CB depth.
Stevenson has to catch the ball
Bagent looks like the best passer on the team
Bears running backs are good

Any thoughts on QB1?


He looked great riding the bench, where he will remain now that THE BAGENT ERA has dawned.

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Hawg Ass wrote:
Nas wrote:
I just watched the Colts game.

St Brown still can't catch.
Pickens looks solid.
Sanborn a step slow, but physical.
Pettis will be cut.
Walker is an awful quarterback.
Leatherwood looks good run blocking.
The Bears don't have CB depth.
Stevenson has to catch the ball
Bagent looks like the best passer on the team
Bears running backs are good

Any thoughts on QB1?


He looked great riding the bench, where he will remain now that THE BAGENT ERA has dawned.

:shock:

He honestly didn't play?

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