This season is a train wreck, we all know that, it seems the best they can hope for is to be somewhat competitive and you see some of the young guys show signs that maybe they will be pieces on a good team.

There is a very real possibility that the wheels fall totally off and you get another 2-3 win season.

Did hear on a podcast somewhere that the Bears are an outlier because the NFL is set up to keep all the teams somewhat competitive and teams that lose multiple games by 10 plus points are rare.

Is this rock bottom for this franchise? The Trestman era seemed to be as low as you can go, but the team did not quit until a little later in the year, you team quitting early in the third quarter of the first game is rare territory, even for a hapless franchise like the George McKaskey era Bears.

The best case scenario may take you out of the running for one of the top QBs in the draft. Best and worst case seem to be lose the rest of the games this season.

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The best case scenario is resetting at QB, however it happens. Don't really see anything else to look forward to.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

The best would be for the team to quietly announce that George will be taking on a new role as team ambassador, he will fly all over the world to raise awareness about the Bears and will no longer be involved in any hiring or firing decisions.

Kevin Warren then becomes the adult in the room and starts gathering lists of GM and HC candidates, red ass alpha males that would have intimidated George, as he prepares to launch the coaching staff. A new HC would be coming into a situation with tons of resources and potentially Caleb Williams at QB, it would seem to be a somewhat attractive job.

He would grill Poles about his approach to building the roster, ask why he decided to sit on cap room and not bring in a few vets to provide leadership for his rudderless team, why does Poles think Eddie Jackson and Whitehair could not have been replaced by competent vets? Why are you blowing so many draft picks on DB's, why is your pro scouting so inept, and how did you pick this coaching staff? Was Eberflus really the top candidate, or were you just intimidated by the strong HC candidates, or was it George and Ted just being George and Ted.

Also think a veteran GM would look at abundance of resources available to this team next season and think they could turn this around quickly.

If this team wins 2-3 games this season it would be almost impossible to not blow it up and start over. Your franchise is a joke right now and it is hard to imagine anyone doing a worse job than the crew you have in place right now.

Best case scenario is they and the Panthers finish 1/2 for worst records in the league.

Worst case scenario is that both teams somehow stumble into 6 or 7 wins and they end up with two middle of the round 1s.

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I don't see how this team ends up winning 6 or 7 games. Outside of Moore, there are no signs that any of Poles' acquisitions have game-changing potential this year. And he's stuck with Fields.

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I don’t think it’s impossible that Fields puts together a stretch like he had in the middle third of last season.

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They only won one of those games.

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Teams are trying to make him play quarterback.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

The Bears getting one or both of the top two picks and seeing a good number of these first or second year players prove they are, at minimum, starting level NFL players.

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GO BEARS!!!

You likely will have two picks in the top 10 and tons of cap room...the scenario Poles has been waiting for, but you cannot go into next season with this same coaching staff.

Really not sure what Eberflus can do to save his job at this point, these players are not responding to the rah rah HITS crap, they need a guy that will hold them accountable, would be interesting to see a Beiniemy or Flores type guy coaching this group, your team would be prepared every week, and do not think you would get a whining Justin Fields with those dudes.

I agree that this coaching staff does not merit NFL employment, but how long will this organization continue this GM-HC-QB ouroboros? Pace got told to hire John Fox and proceeded to draft Mitch, then Fox was gone and Nagy was brought in with the promise to coach-up Mitch. Then Pace, acting for or along with Nagy, got another bite at the apple and drafted Fields, before everyone got fired, and a new executive was brought in with the promise to utilize Fields.

We're now at the part of the cycle again where the HC gets fired but the GM gets to not only make one more QB pick, but also bring in a HC who double-super-promises to do everything he can to make said QB a star and win with him.

Sure it's possible a new HC can be brought in to win with whichever young QB has already been chosen, but this is twice now (3 if you count the Cutler trade as similar enough to drafting a young QB that high by a regime that wasn't around for the length of the QB's tenure, I think?) that this cycle has completed, and it's about to happen again.

I think we saw everyone on that defense, including the guys Poles brought in in FA, quit today, so in my mind the search for a new football executive begins now, or you commit to hiring a coach-czar type before the draft.

Bears aren't even in a position like the Jets were (and are again): swapping draft capital for a veteran QB to get em over the hump (whatever the hump might be).

Sending the Rams draft picks for Stafford or grabbing Jameis from Nawlins or the return of the Red Rocket would be pointless, absent rectifying myriad other issues on the roster.

Seems like you gotta go as long as you can with Fields and then maybe see if not-that-young Bagent is the next Brock Purdy (highly, highly unlikely, but desperate times yadda), Bears bye week isn't until after Thanksgiving. If ever a team needed a week off it's this one.

You can't go into to November with Eberflus if they haven't won a game.

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They have to start completely from scratch. There’s almost nothing worth building on with this roster.

Ideally they’ll be competitive in three years.

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Need to bring in Rex Ryan or Bill Parcells. Need to shake things up.

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This is the worst Bears team since 1974. That team did somehow go 4-10, but it's offense was ranked 25th out of 26 in the NFL, led by luminaries such as Gary Huff, Carl Garrett, and Charlie Wade. I know my Bears history post-Butkus reasonably well, and until I looked at Football Reference I had no idea that there was a Charlie Wade, much less that he led the 1974 Bears in receptions.

They scored 18 offensive TD and 0 other TD in 14 games.

The good news then was that Jim Finks joined the team just after the season began, and then with the #3 pick in the draft they picked Walter Payton.

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I think it's quite possible that if they start 0-6 that Moore gets traded before the deadline.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

Rex is ready to get a foot in the door, if you catch my drift.

But how do you tear away an executive-type and HC prospect in the early/mid stages of a season so they have time to prepare for arguably the biggest Free Agency and draft of the franchise's history? Do they put out feelers to Harbaugh now?

The ownership's own ineptitude along with that of Ted "Not. Involved. In. Football. Decisions!" Phillips brought them here.

How many teams hire a full roster control guy and actually compete?

The idea that a coach even wants that speaks to an arrogance befitting fatass Josh McDaniels.

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If the season ended today, you would have the top two picks in the draft, the Bears may be able to hold serve on the top pick, but Carolina way win a few more games which could derail that seemingly impossible scenario.

It is almost like someone is trying to give the franchise the resources to succeed, but nobody has figured out how to McKaskey proof the process.

You could go into the offseason with tons of cap room, the #1 pick, and a top 5 pick, not sure if Poles is the dude to manage all that capital after a few years of watching his approach to roster building, especially when you see how good teams build from the lines outward rather than his approach of drafting and trading for DB's and WR's while trotting out marginal NFL players on both lines, you can see the unmitigated disaster that approach has created and highly doubt he will smarten up quickly.

There are many problems with George's approach to ownership, but his tendency to hire inexperienced GM's and coaches because he is not smart enough to realize that the guys he is hiring were really good at fetching coffee for the smart guys they were working under and were not the ones actually making the final calls on key personnel decisions is his most franchise crippling trait.

At worst, the Bears will have 2 top 10 picks. I'm glad we didn't get the Texans pick.

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THIS

That's one mistake George hasn't made, so let's not give him any more bad ideas outside of his own.

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Also Andy Reid pretty much runs that organization top to bottom as well

best case scenario is that they trade Fields to the Jets for the #1 the Packers thought they were getting and the Bears have 3 first round picks in the 24 draft

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

No one is trading. a #1 pick for a quarterback with Fields' sack rate, which is astronomically high compared to every other QB in the NFL.

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Take the starting pitcher approach and trade him after a good start, no way you get a first, maybe a second at best.

Just have to make sure Poles does not flip picks for any more guys that are failed early round picks but fit his length/athleticism fetish. You can see how that is working out with Edmunds, would say he looks like Tarzan, but plays like Jane, but Jane would not shy away from contact like he does, rarely see a MLB refuse to fill a gap and take on a blocker like he does. If you watch Urlacher play in this defense and then watch Edmunds you see one guy attacking the point of attack, playing an instinctual and violent brand of football, and one guy that is just floating around waiting for the play to come to him.