This guy is a jag with a cool backstory. Nothing to get worked up about. Not the future qb of the team. Not sure he's a backup on a good team

If Nathan Peterman can stick in the league for, what, 6 seasons now? Bagent's got a good shot at being a perpetual clipboard holder. He has all the traits the coaching staffs love in a back up: he works his ass off to learn the playbook, could probably help level up the incoming 1st rounder on the playbook and being from West Virginia with a dad who arm wrestles semi-professionally is the most crackerish cracker who ever crackered.

Surprising that Bagent's the first WV QB. Not sure how they count QB's being from a state. I think most regard where the player did high school (attended college there isn't counted under this metric) as being from a state over where they were born. But considering Western Pennsylvania across the Maryland panhandle is filthy with NFL QB's, you'd think West VIrginia would have had at least 1 to date, but I guess Bagent's the first. I thought the Jets bust QB Browning Nagle was from West VIrginia, but he just transferred into WVU before being drafted by the Jets; which getting drafted by the Jets as a QB pretty much seals your fate that you'll be a bust.

Other states that have never had an NFL QB play in an NFL game: VT, DE, AK, Wyoming, i think? Oh, and Rhode Island hasn't.

You don't need a "genius" like Josh Lucas to see his lack of arm talent, this dude had Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky ranked ahead of Mahomes and Watson, not sure how you would think anyone would do anything other than laugh at your QB takes after that, but the local "Bears Experts" have propped him up for some unknown reason?

Surely everyone watched some of his college game stuff after the preseason games, you saw a guy that got the ball out quickly, but struggled to throw deep outs, the ball would hang in the air on anything over 15 yards, easy picks for any NFL level DB.

If you could put Bagents head on Fields body you would have one hell of a QB, hopefully we get that next year with Maye.

Bagent could turn into a serviceable cheap backup who can play a game or two for a bad team. That is his ceiling.

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He's got a below average arm with less than optimal accuracy, and he also misses reads. Nothing to celebrate, really.

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Pros:
Dramatic overachiever, does not lack for confidence
Live arm and notable ball-handling skills to execute RPO and play-action passing game
Above-average athlete
Live arm and can throw with velocity to all levels of the field with pace

Cons:
Appeared to be a lot of schemed throws on his film
Consistency in executing reads will need improvement and more speed in NFL

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Bears draft a QB in the first round in April, do they keep Fields or Bagent?

You can't keep Fields.

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Would you rather have Bagent as your backup, or Andy Dalton (Carolina’s QB2)? As much as Bagent seems like a “find,” is he really better than someone like Dalton? Or does he fit better because he won’t create controversy? Similarly, I can’t see Fields as a backup. Wherever he goes, he’d have to be QB1 or nothing.

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A couple of weeks ago, I said "31 starts spread out over 10 years." He has shown enough upside to end up on a number of 6-11 level teams as the relatively cap-friendly backup to an established starter and the guy who can both mentor and encourage the practice squad rookie #3 QB and run the scout team.

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No, I would prefer Bagent. Has Dalton helped Fields or Young develop? That extra money could be spent elsewhere.

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If I have a veteran QB as a starter, I'd want Bagent as the cheaper option. If I have a rookie or second year high draft pick at starter, I can afford Dalton under the cap for more mentoring.

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be careful, you and "leverage" have a very checkered past.

Bears would have lost by double digits if Andy Dalton started for Carolina.

You have Bagent as the backup and you hope he improves as much in the next year as he did in the previous year.

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Yeah, if you're looking to bring along a new top draft pick QB, Bagent too inexperienced at the NFL level to be an effective mentor in 2024. Mahomes credits Alex Smith with showing him the ropes of being an NFL QB . Someone like a Dalton over Bagent or FIelds if you're looking to have a vet backup with experience to bring along a top 5 draft pick QB next year.

Maybe Ryan Tannehill? Mariota might be out there. Everyone really liked Mariota-the-guy not necessarily the QB when he was on the Titans. Teddy Bridgewater? Tyrod Taylor? Jordan Love?

Not a lot to choose from in the potential veteran free agent QB's. Dalton probably the best option if you're going that route but looks like Carolina has him under contract for another year. Panthers could always cut him before it kicks in.

Still early to say on Young, i think. Fields seems like a tough guy to mentor.

There's nothing that Dalton is providing Young. There's nothing Dalton or Foles provided Fields that you couldn't get from coaching. Bagent is still hungry. At worst, his work ethic will push a rookie.

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You can't teach Justin's lack of vision or badgent lack of arm

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If Bagent has a solid base, his arm is fine. And like you said, you can teach velocity these days, but that back foot throw he has is a real problem. Like a 'get the fuck out of this league' problem.

I think MANY are being unreasonably hard on him because he's an undrafted D2 kid. He's played better than Fields has in most games and his floor is higher.

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His floor is a millionaire and then some unless he gets hit by a bus.

And another thing, Bernstein and Holmes were acting like DJ has never rolled his eyes and threw his arms up in frustration over a shit throw from Fields.

It's just bullying at this point.

Stroud played worse against the Panthers coming off a bye. He almost messed up our pick.

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Lpt both those guys sneeze each others feces

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He does not have a "live" arm, nor can he throw with velocity to all levels of the field with pace--or accuracy. While he gets rid of the ball quickly, it is often delivered inaccurately or to the wrong receiver. He's a guy.

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Kind of tells you scouts may not know what they’re looking at.

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I’m not sure they mean strong arm when they say live arm. I always thought that when they said live arm it meant that they could make any throw from any position/angle and make it seem natural but I’m not a scout. The velocity part I don’t quite understand. That seems to be lacking with any throw over 10 yards so I would say he can’t throw with velocity to all levels of the field. I’m not quite sure what he does different but he does seem to execute the play action as well as or better than any QB I can remember here.

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I don't agree about Young. He really is too light and doesn't have a good arm. As for Fields, his next series of games is his to make or break him in NFL eyes. With the offensive line getting healthier and the defense not getting their ass pounded like it did in the first half of the year, It's up now to Getsy to put some game plans together for him to try and prove himself. IF he does good, then the Bear's will have a tough decision to make whether they trade him for a potential number one pick or keep him and use the Panther's pick and their own as well as a good free agent money to reap some quality talent at wide receiver, offensive tackle, center, and defensive tackle.

I still think that Harbaugh would be a great choice.

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