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Good to see the excitement over a new PBP guy will make up for the depressing fact that another offseason is upon us and the Subdivision will be once again on the sidelines as the likes of Ohtani, Soto and Alonso move to new teams :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Good to see the excitement over a new PBP guy will make up for the depressing fact that another offseason is upon us and the Subdivision will be once again on the sidelines as the likes of Ohtani, Soto and Alonso move to new teams :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I listened to a 45 minute podcast interview with Jason last night, taped the day after he got the Tigers job. The most interesting thing to me was that he never mentioned Steve Stone once, not even when he was talking about who his color guys will be in Detroit (former Tiger Craig Monroe most of the time, and occasionally Kirk Gibson).

Not. Once. Not even a "I'm going to miss Steve Stone, but I'm looking forward to building a similar relationship with Craig."

This link should work: https://chartable.com/podcasts/sports-media-with-richard-deitsch/episodes/155025529-jason-benetti


Even when they seemed to be having fun together, I always got a vibe like they just annoyed each other

This doesn't surprise me at all. It's no secret that Stone is not the most personable human being on the planet. From listening / watching, I never got the impression they liked each other or had any chemistry. I would suspect, Stone had very little regard for Benetti...then again, does Stone have any regard for anyone besides Steve Stone?


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Jason Benetti’s dream job was to broadcast games for the team of his youth, the White Sox. Against all odds, Benetti, who grew up in south suburban Homewood, lived out that dream when he became a Sox TV announcer in 2016. He turned into a fan favorite and grew his national profile.

But circumstances around the job became anything but dreamy. Last week, Benetti left the Sox, who let him out of the final year of his contract, to become the TV voice of the division-rival Tigers, who offered more money and scheduling flexibility.

Multiple sources said that a contentious relationship with Sox senior vice president and chief revenue and marketing officer Brooks Boyer was at the center of the situation, particularly an inappropriate remark Boyer made to Benetti.

Appearing on the podcast “Sports Media with Richard Deitsch” this week, Benetti explained how he likened himself to Detroiters for being “underestimated.” Benetti, who has cerebral palsy, related that message to a conversation he had during his career.

Said Benetti: “I had somebody say to me when I asked for more respect, and basically demanded more respect just in the way I was being treated, they said, ‘Respect according to normal human beings, or respect according to Jason Benetti?’ That is one of those things that I say, that’s disqualifying and will be for a long time. I’ll have a relationship, but I don’t want to do that long-term.”

Those sources said the “somebody” was Boyer.

When asked for comment, Boyer said, “Jason and I had a friendly and positive conversation last week when he called to say goodbye, and I wish him nothing but the best.”

Benetti confirmed the conversation, saying, “Brooks and I had a great conversation last week. I deeply appreciate what he said to me over the course of that discussion and fully believe we’ve moved beyond anything in the past.”

But the damage had been done, and it was evident to those close to Benetti.

“I don’t know that Jason was as happy as he possibly could have been the last year or so,” said Chris Withers, the producer for White Sox games on NBC Sports Chicago. “So the fact that he is happy now and going to be in a place that is going to just love what he brings to a broadcast, that’s most important.

“We had dinner on Sunday; it was great to see him. I saw someone who’s just happy to be doing baseball where they have some great plans. The Tigers know what they want, and in my mind, they got the best in the business.”

Despite perceptions of an organization in turmoil this year – from speculation about relocating or selling the team to the firings of top executive Ken Williams and general manager Rick Hahn – potential successors to Benetti have been lining up.

The leading candidate is Mike Monaco, who has filled in on Sox, Bulls and Blackhawks games over the last two years and proved to be a high-quality broadcaster. When Benetti was out with COVID in August 2021, Monaco jumped in. He was living in Chicago while working for Big Ten Network and ESPN, and he made quite an impression on Sox analyst Steve Stone.

“Fast-forward six or seven years, you’ve got Jason Benetti,” Stone said at the time. “Mike is going to be outstanding. He does a lot of different sports. He’s very good at each one. He will get better. If you were in the stock market, you’d like to buy Mike Monaco futures.”

However, Monaco recently agreed to a three-year deal with ESPN. The Massachusetts native and Notre Dame graduate also fills in on about 10 Red Sox games for NESN. The White Sox would have to navigate Monaco’s ESPN commitment just as they did Benetti’s commitment to Fox. Plus, they’d have to wonder if he’d be lured back to Boston by a larger schedule.

Another top candidate is Connor McKnight, who regularly hosts Sox pregame and postgame shows on ESPN 1000 and has filled in for radio play-by-play voice Len Kasper as well as Benetti. McKnight has performed well in limited time on TV and would come with no strings attached. But he’d have to grow into the job as opposed to more experienced TV announcers.

Connor Onion, who grew up in La Grange and lives in Chicago, also figures to be considered. He works for Big Ten Network and ESPN and called minor-league baseball from 2017 to 2022, including the Kane County Cougars when they were in the Diamondbacks’ system (2018-19).

Two potential candidates with name recognition are Chris and Stefan Caray, the twin sons of former Cubs announcer Chip Caray and the great grandsons of the late Harry Caray, who called Sox and Cubs games. For the last two seasons, the identical twins have called games together for the Diamondbacks’ Double-A affiliate, the Amarillo Sod Poodles, in the Texas League. It’s unknown whether they’re a package deal or if they’re willing to work apart.

The Sox are leading the search and will make the final decision, but rights-holder NBC Sports Chicago can recommend and discuss candidates. For a team in disarray after a 101-loss season, its TV job is still highly sought.

“I don’t think that matters because there’s only 30 of these jobs,” Withers said. “Yes, it’s attractive by the city and the market size. But this is a job that only 30 people have. I wouldn’t be surprised by any name that is interested in sitting in that booth.”

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Connor Onion? Lol

That Boyer comment reads poorly, but I doubt he meant it as a dig at Jason’s condition. I assume he meant Jason was seeking more respect than the average person.

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When I read his comment on respect, it seems like he’s being called a prima donna and doesn’t realize it.

Granted, the guy seems like a well adjusted, decent human from a distance, but it’s not obvious whether he’s been slighted or somebody is tired of dealing with his shit.

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When I read his comment on respect, it seems like he’s being called a prima donna and doesn’t realize it.

Granted, the guy seems like a well adjusted, decent human from a distance, but it’s not obvious whether he’s been slighted or somebody is tired of dealing with his shit.


Yes and yes.

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I thought Brooks Boyers was just the guy in charge of tickets, bobble heads, Elvis Night, Dog Day, and whatever other stupid fucking promotions they have at the park. It seems like he has a lot more power in the organization. IS he the White Sox Ted Phillips? Is he making roster decisions for Getz also? I dont know how comfortable with the ticket man making any decisions other than how much to charge to get in the park.

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I thought Brooks Boyers was just the guy in charge of tickets, bobble heads, Elvis Night, Dog Day, and whatever other stupid fucking promotions they have at the park. It seems like he has a lot more power in the organization. IS he the White Sox Ted Phillips? Is he making roster decisions for Getz also? I dont know how comfortable with the ticket man making any decisions other than how much to charge to get in the park.

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Who just like... asks for more respect? What the hell does that even mean? What a dork. Yall better off without this putz.

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Who just like... asks for more respect? What the hell does that even mean? What a dork. Yall better off without this putz.

He's Jason Benetti, goddammit!


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Brooks Boyer is the problem here. I'm not Benetti fan--I might not necessarily want to hit him in the face with a shovel, like a certain CFMB poster--perhaps I'd kick him in the leg instead--but Benetti is the one who is actually good at his job.

I don't think Boyer has failed upwards; I think he just has been given more power over things he knows little about, which seems to be an issue with the Sox. You have a guy here (Benetti) with a national reputation and who is well-liked by every other broadcaster and color person in every other sport, and your team needs every last iota of positive press it can get . . . and you let him leave. To fucking Detroit. So White Sox.

If they really wanted someone who could learn on the job but has plenty of related experience, they'd get Dave Revsine.

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Bummer gone. Sox get five players. A useless 2B but maybe one of the arms will work out

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Bummer gone. Sox get five players. A useless 2B but maybe one of the arms will work out


Decent haul for Bummer.

Lopez (ex-Royal) is your bridge SS until Montgomery is ready.
Shewmake is in the mix for 2B. MLB.com prospect profile has him as a contact guy that played good defense at SS.
Soroka and Shuster potentially fill two of the three open rotation spots.

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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
Bummer gone. Sox get five players. A useless 2B but maybe one of the arms will work out


Decent haul for Bummer.

Lopez (ex-Royal) is your bridge SS until Montgomery is ready.
Shewmake is in the mix for 2B. MLB.com prospect profile has him as a contact guy that played good defense at SS.
Soroka and Shuster potentially fill two of the three open rotation spots.


I HATED Bummer so much, glad he is gone.


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No way that Hahn/Williams are able to pull off that deal. The value to Atlanta is freeing up four 40-man spots for prospects or free agents.

Shewmake is no worse than Lenyn Sosa or Romy Gonzalez. He will be a shuttle guy for the 13th position player spot.

Soroka is a massive lottery ticket on his health. But he was a good pitcher before all the injuries.

Lopez will bat 9th, field well, and be a Grifol ally in the clubhouse.

One of the better low end deals the Sox have made in a while. Could turn out as shit for shit, but the approach was solid.

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I don't have the energy to talk about a shit trade with a bunch of shit players and how they'll fit in a shit organization.


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I don't have the energy to talk about a shit trade with a bunch of shit players and how they'll fit in a shit organization.

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Connor Onion? Lol

That Boyer comment reads poorly, but I doubt he meant it as a dig at Jason’s condition. I assume he meant Jason was seeking more respect than the average person.


von Showon knew exactly what he was doing by putting those two unrelated pieces of information next to each other in the story. That is borderline slanderous on his part. It's a hatchet job either way because this sentence is why he left:

Last week, Benetti left the Sox, who let him out of the final year of his contract, to become the TV voice of the division-rival Tigers, who offered more money and scheduling flexibility.

Anyway, no Benetti did not become a fan favorite. I'd describe it more as a cult following.

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They need borderline competent MLB players to field a team next year. They got a whole haul of them for Bummer. Not a bad deal.


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It's going to be fun when Lopez is grindy and overloved by the fan base but Bernstein cannot claim its because he's white

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It's going to be fun when Lopez is grindy and overloved by the fan base but Bernstein cannot claim its because he's white

“White hispanic”
“White presenting”

Guy has options available and I expect he’ll abuse them if given the opportunity.

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Awesome that they got Lopez in that deal. Royals north continues!

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No way that Hahn/Williams are able to pull off that deal. The value to Atlanta is freeing up four 40-man spots for prospects or free agents.

Shewmake is no worse than Lenyn Sosa or Romy Gonzalez. He will be a shuttle guy for the 13th position player spot.

Soroka is a massive lottery ticket on his health. But he was a good pitcher before all the injuries.

Lopez will bat 9th, field well, and be a Grifol ally in the clubhouse.

One of the better low end deals the Sox have made in a while. Could turn out as shit for shit, but the approach was solid.


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It's going to be fun when Lopez is grindy and overloved by the fan base but Bernstein cannot claim its because he's white

“White hispanic”
“White presenting”

Guy has options available and I expect he’ll abuse them if given the opportunity.

He grew up in Naperville, he aint no Mexican.

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
No way that Hahn/Williams are able to pull off that deal. The value to Atlanta is freeing up four 40-man spots for prospects or free agents.

Shewmake is no worse than Lenyn Sosa or Romy Gonzalez. He will be a shuttle guy for the 13th position player spot.

Soroka is a massive lottery ticket on his health. But he was a good pitcher before all the injuries.

Lopez will bat 9th, field well, and be a Grifol ally in the clubhouse.

One of the better low end deals the Sox have made in a while. Could turn out as shit for shit, but the approach was solid.


Well said Chet


Solid return for Bummer.

My fear though, is that it's simply Atlanta dumping guys they weren't putting on the 40 man anyway, so they have room for free agents. And it's the Sox adding a bunch of guys because they aren't signing any free agents anyway.


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That is exactly it cf. But the sox still had to do it. A lottery ticket in Soroka makes it worth it.

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That is exactly it cf. But the sox still had to do it. A lottery ticket in Soroka makes it worth it.


And there you have it

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Cutting Bummer would have been a positive. His career effectively ended once he had to face three batters. The fact you got anything for him is just frosting on the cake. The shortstop is a solid defender who can hold down the position if you have to use him there until Montgomery arrives or he can be a good utility infielder. Nice to have a guy who can actually pick up the baseball.

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