Brick, you can keep saying it although you are probably the only one, he was far from average this year.

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He also put those numbers up yesterday without his top 2
receivers.

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1 INT. Tied for 104th in the NFL. Slow your roll a bit here, 'Low T.

brick be brick'n

He had a really good year.

I still think he is closer to Kirk Cousins than he is Rodgers.

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Obviously better:
Tua
Goff
Prescott
Allen
Purdy
Mahomes
Stroud
Lamar
Cousins
Burrow

So that's 10 right there.

I'll put Herbert in his own category as I think he is definitely better but Herbert also had a subpar year.

So that is 11.

I don't take Love over any of those quarterbacks.

So you then have this group of players that you can rank in a lot of different ways.
Hurts(He had a down year too but he was an all-pro the year before)
Mayfield
Wilson
Flacco(small sample size but he's been playing at an MVP level since he got off the couch and returned).

So maybe Love is 12. Maybe Love is 16.

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I provided my list. You can tell me how it is wrong if you would like.

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The eye test of watching several games this year. I mean his stats are really good. But he does not seem to have that same "it" thing that Rodgers and Farve had. Look at Cousins stats over his career. He has had some great stat seasons, but he is not elite.

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Cousins and Goff are not obviously better and Tua is one hit away from being out of football. It's a fairly easy argument for Purdue Rick with only 17 games in the book. But it's mostly a hope against hope argument, IMO. He's a first year starter on the youngest team in football. The trajectory doesn't scream 'AVERAGE'. It just doesn't.

Cousins only played 8 games but we also know that how he was playing wasn't a fluke. Cousins was better at everything than Love in those 8 games. There is no argument that Love was close to Cousins unless it is just because Love didn't get injured.

It's closer with Goff but Goff's team was much better with similar stats. Put Goff in the maybe better section and it doesn't really change anything though.

Love's 32 touchdowns in 17 games is really good but it also hides the rest of his stats which are much closer to game manager than they are elite quarterback.

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3 to 1 td to int ratio is very good

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I hear ya but time is always the truthteller. So we shall see.

what is there to argue about here? second half of the year Love played great. bears need to take a qb at 1 overall and let him marinate for 3 years. that's the secret sauce

He had his ups and downs, but he finished strong. Id say he is hovering around QB10 right now, and he and the team are looking really promising. We will see what he does in the playoffs, that's really where the rubber meets the road. I know there aren't 14 QB's id rather have than him at this point.

I like how you went from "brick be brick'n" to "He's not 14th but probably more like 10-12th".

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But you are brick'n. It's an objective fact. You've taken 17 games of the youngest football team that's made the playoffs and Bricked all over it.

How dare someone judge a quarterback based on the games they played this year.

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Yet, you did and somehow came up with average. The only person that I have seen making this statement.

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Yes, your judgement is on record. Love is in the 15th range and that's where he'll always be. This is based on...not much. But you're bold so we'll see how it turns out.

I showed my work. I'm fine if you or anyone else disagrees.

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I wouldn't want to accept this Packers talking point about "youngest team" so uncritically. Factually they may still be the "youngest team" by average of a few months or days but I think 50% of the leagues top ten youngest teams made the playoffs anyway, and it would have been 60% had the Jaguars not lost Lawrence to injury. As for the oldest teams, only 40% or so of the top ten oldest made the playoffs. So the fact that the Packers made it as one of the youngest seems rather unremarkable when viewed against what's happening around the league. It's still quite disappointing that a team led by a four year veteran in love under the tutelage of an experienced coaching staff was only able to back into the playoffs once a better team's QB went down. CJ Stroud meanwhile, a rookie, coasted into the playoffs with no sweat. Love should take notes.


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Looks like he took great notes, considering this his first opportunity.

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Y'all packer fans keep pushing the false narrative about first year and whatnot. Can't let such state propaganda pass unchallenged. Jordan Love has nearly half a decade of training camp, OTA, preseason walk through, preseason offense install, and what have you experience. On top of that he has real life game experience sprinkled in throughout those years prior to this year. He cannot be compared to CJ Stroud or actual rookies given his extensive pro experience. When Jordan Love was learning NFL football at the desk of Aaron Rodgers and Coach Lametrosexual CJ Stroud was figuring out how to get a ride to prom, so there's no comparison. Again, Jordan Love benefited from the Cousins going down with a season ender. Hardly some accomplishment worth writing home about.

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Sounds great Vegan!!!!

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Top 10 by any reasonable criteria, top 5 in a lot of categories. Just like I said.

He earned the bag. He is an elite quarterback.

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He's better than both those guys.

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