veganfan21 wrote:
Nas wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Not sure about that, nas. They averaged 5.7 more points per game than they did last year. Why? That's all Stroud. That per game increase has them ranked 14 overall in offense dvoa. On defense they ranked 17, just behind the bears. Stroud was the primary driver of their turnaround.
Why would that be all Stroud? They had a lot of low scoring games. The defense wasn't giving up a lot of points.
It's clearly Stroud for many reasons, including the stats Zippy cited. I'm not bashing the Houston defense but they were per the numbers an average to slightly above average D for the whole season, comparable to the bears. They surrendered 19.7 per game on defense, good enough for 12th overall. They scored 22.7 per game, more than the Chiefs. Last year, without Stroud, they scored 17 per game.
Houston's defense gave up fewer than 20 points 9 times during the regular season. The Texans scored more than 23 points in 4 games and there were special teams and defensive touchdowns included in there. Justin Fields had the same total touchdowns a year before and averaged virtually the same number this year. I love the efficiency, but I would take Love's overall production over Stroud's every year.
Edit: Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had more touchdowns in fewer games, with a great defense, in 2018 and we wanted to run him out of town. Now it makes you a top 5 player. GTFOH!
Now I know you're not serious. You're comparing Stroud's rookie year to players playing in their second or third years. What undermines what you're saying is even saying Stroud's numbers or some of his numbers are close to guys in their second or third year reflects poorly on the other guys and reflects positively on the rookie. 22.7 ppg for the Texans does not include ST or defensive TDs, it's all offense (Stroud). I'm not sure what your argument is anymore because you're not really citing data and whatever points you appear to be making contradict the data. But if you're saying Stroud will not really build upon his successful rookie year then fine, the future is unknown, can't really say much. But nothing about Stroud's accolades this year was undeserved. It's all supported by individual and team statistics - he clearly put the team on his back and is the sole reason why he was playing in the postseason while guys like Fields and T.ubrisky were playing Madden.
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