all this gum flapping is for nothing. They are drafting Williams and have probably known it since the day they secured the first pick

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If he trades that pick, for any reason, I'm going to need you to revive me.

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He's not. This is the moment he's lived for his entire professional life.

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Would be interesting to hear what they are being offered for Fields.

Poles said, "he wanted to right by Justin", it does seem that means trading him sooner than later so that he could start working with his new team, did not use, "Justin is our quarterback", like Lovie used to do back in the day whenever he wanted to give a non-answer about Rex Grossman.

Stats which were accumulated while playing for one of the more inept playcallers in the NFL. That really is a true gauge of his abilities isn't it?

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Looking more and more like it will be Williams at #1, would think Poles would invest heavily in the following areas on offense.

Offensive line, need a starting center, do you go FA or draft, or both, would like depth at guard and an upgrade at swing tackle.

WR, do they address this at #9? You have some pricey vets out there, but you need a slot guy and a bigger outside guy, it will be interesting to see how they approach the WR room.

TE, need two as expect a lot of two TE sets, a guy that can stretch the field like Fant makes sense along with a draft pick.

RB, Johnson likely has a bigger role next year, but still need a speedy guy that can catch the ball.

Can easily see at least four new starters (QB, C, WR2, TE2), but given the injury history and contract status of both starting guards you could see a draft pick or FA start several games for you, so you need to add quality depth across the oline.

I posted the 6 guys who've won a Super Bowl. There is a 10% chance he wins a Super Bowl but it's not a 10% chance he's a HOFer.

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Great odds. You sent me down that rabbit hole and I believe I found quarterbacks drafted #1 have won 25% of the SBs and played in more than 1/3 of them.

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At least 6 quarterbacks that went overall #1 have gone into the HOF or will go in to the HOF(Stafford, Eli). That's out of 22 players since I'm not yet ready to count the Mayfield/Murray/Burrow picks given we don't know exactly what will happen with two of their careers.

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To trade Fields would be idiotic. To lose all of the starting and pro bowl caliber players that they would gain in trading the number one pick and subsequent trades is a firable offense. I don't care if Williams is or isn't a better qb than Fields. You are faced with losing all pro potential players both on offense and defense. Trading the pick would return six to eight starting and/or pro bowl caliber players which would give them one of the 24 man starting groups in all of the NFL. Shake yourselves... What fool would do such a thing?

If they do this, and when it fails, I could see basically a huge fan revolt and boycott of the bear's games.

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If Fields is so good why wouldn't he provide a nice return in a trade too?

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Yes, I think 3 played in multiples, right? But you have to win one first. I mean, if you want to go that route, 6th round is the best round to pick a great QB.

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He is NOT THE NUMBER ONE DRAFT PICK is he? He is more valuable to the Bear's than to any other team because he has learned the system, has familiarity with all of his offensive teammates and has support from his teammates, especially DJ Moore who is very in favor of keeping him versus bringing in the USC prima donna.

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To trade Fields would be idiotic. To lose all of the starting and pro bowl caliber players that they would gain in trading the number one pick and subsequent trades is a firable offense. I don't care if Williams is or isn't a better qb than Fields. You are faced with losing all pro potential players both on offense and defense. Trading the pick would return six to eight starting and/or pro bowl caliber players which would give them one of the 24 man starting groups in all of the NFL. Shake yourselves... What fool would do such a thing?

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Haven't you argued that the system sucks that he was forced to play in and that most of his offensive teammates are also bad?

So you at least acknowledge that every other NFL team would choose Caleb Williams over Fields even at a higher cost in trade?

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Plus, the only guarantee of an early pick would be from this draft. It would be the pick you trade down to get. Every other pick could be 15+. It's ridiculous to expect those picks to become Pro Bowl players.

This is just another bit by the person or people running The Hawk account. The account hasn't put out a remotely serious thought in years. Just mostly bad trolling.

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The Bears are drafting Caleb Williams. Time to let it go, Hawk-A-Roo.

The Hawk account is like an automated Chat GPT whose algorithm is fed by Tweets from the Fields cult. It just mashes all those tweets together and spits out generic keep Fields garbage

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I'll play....
I'd take Cousins over Fields.

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What ?

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What if Cousins costs $50 million a year and Fields costs $13 million a year?

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then I'll start Tyson Bagent or whoever I draft in the first round. I don't care which QB they draft and I don't care if there are picks traded....I just want Marvin Harrison Jr and a QB named Williams, Maye, or McCarthy.

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Specifically, I'd take any of those options over Fields.

Bears fleece Washington and swap 1st overall for 2nd overall, pick up 2nd overall, 2025 1st, 2026 1st, another 2nd round swap and maybe an additional later round swap + swap Bagent for Sam Howell:

Bears get 3 firsts (Washington's 2024, 2025, 2026) improved position potentially with 2nd++ rd pick(s) and an upgrade at backup.

Redskins get a guy who cries watching Disney movies and has to stand on tip-toes to ride the better rides at Six Flags.

Bears next trade the 2nd overall to some other team (whatever QB needy teams don't trade for Fields or sign Cousins et al) for a lesser haul than they got for 1st overall.

should net +5 quality picks over 24-26 drafts, or 6 to 8 if the Bears are willing to take chuff back.


Bears then take best QB still on the board with the 7th (Titans can't really think Levis is the answer) or 8th (if ATL doesn't trade for Fields or whomever) or Jets (cuz Jets) at 10, Viqueens at 12 might wanna draft a QB even if they resign Cousins, Denver (desperate for a new QB) NO should be drafting a QB, but won't, same for Indy, Seattle, Jacksonville and LA Rams and even Pittsburgh. Even Tampa Bay might be in QB drafting market if Baker bolts.


there's like 6 teams max fully sorted at QB or who shouldn't be thinking about Jordan Lovin' their aging starter.

Cousins is a better option than Fields if he wasn't older and coming off an ACL. I would still understand the argument if we're talking about a 1 year type deal. So, yes, Cousins has clearly outperformed Fields, but there are risks there.

If you're arguing that Russell Willison, Jimmy G, or Flacco are better than Fields heading into next year, I think it's more than likely that all 3 of them are benched next season for any team depending on them (or Jimmy G's case, injured). These guys are hitched with a rookie draft pick. Nobody is signing any of these guys to be anything other than a temp starter/dependable backup once that rookie is ready.

Fields is different - nobody is trading for him with the intention of drafting someone, this year, to replace him.

Good point. Cousins is likely to get 2-3 years at $40M per, maybe guaranteed money. Fields is currently about 2 years $30-35M (I believe it's about 7-8 this year and around 22-25 next season with the option).

BD, please explain why Fields is immune from being benched next year. You have not addressed any of the statistics depicting Fields as the 42nd best QB in the fourth quarter on numerous metrics, perhaps because it undermines your "he's making progress" canard.

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They are going to invest in a starting center, probably in free agency. If you look at the OL, they haven't spent much money on it and center is the largest hole on the roster. They will need interior depth as well so no issue with addressing that in the middle part of the draft.

They do need 2 more WR's. One of them will likely come in the 1st 2 rounds of the draft (assuming they get a 2nd round pick for Fields). The other could be be Mooney, but some veteran type WR. Still hoping for development from Tyler Scott also.

RB is a potential sleeper area. Given Poles unwillingness to pay Montgomery, I don't think he will want to pay Barkley, Jacobs etc. I can't rule it out completely though I think it's more likely they look for a veteran type on a 1 year deal.

TE needs depth. Kmet is the only one on the roster. That's not a big money spot, probably more of the dependable veteran options.

QB will also need to be addressed. I think they would want to spend on a veteran to help with Caleb. Not sure if that's a Flacco type (he'd probably get opportunities elsewhere), but I think having a veteran on the roster will be a priority.

Heard some of that during the GM interviews last couple days. Folks talking about the Alex Smith-Mahomes model of the terminally mediocre veteran to man the ship for a season or two (or 5 in Alex Smith's case @KC) and still draft a QB so you don't throw a rookie QB out there right away who might benefit from acclimating to the pro game/lifestyle before being tasked with carrying the franchise.

Tho with NIL, you should already have an idea which ones are potential Mike Williams in waiting

Surprised how many folks think Bryce Young hasn't gotten a fair shot. I wonder if that's trying to tamp down the impending storm when it turns out C-Will is BYoung redux.

I'm not sure how sitting out a season would've helped Bryce Young see the middle of the field over the lines.