I’ve heard it characterized as modern-day slavery. Only the slaves are making millions of dollars. but is basically the same thing

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I think the trade seems pretty obvious.
3rd round pick.
Upgrades to a 2nd if the Falcons make the playoffs and Fields plays 60% of the snaps.

That seems to be fair for both sides.

I think it needs to be a 3rd round pick or better or you tell the Falcons you are just going to keep Fields and trade him when someone gets injured in week 2.

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No, there is no need to let him walk for less than the 49ers got for Alex Smith or what the Jets got for Darold. You can wait until the start of free agency when teams know if they have a chance to sign Cousins.

The Steelers aren't one of those teams. It's in their interest to move quickly, unless they want a Mac Jone. They certainly don't want Russell Wilson and can't afford anyone else.

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From Biggs article today...

Connecting the dots to where Fields could go is tough. I don’t view the Pittsburgh Steelers as a great option. Some believe new offensive coordinator Arthur Smith will want to lure Ryan Tannehill there because of his experience in the system. The Las Vegas Raiders don’t make sense. Offensive coordinator Luke Getsy spent two seasons trying to make it work with Fields.

Are the Atlanta Falcons an ideal destination? Offensive coordinator Zac Robinson came from the Los Angeles Rams and worked under Sean McVay. Getsy came from the Green Bay Packers and worked under Matt LaFleur. LaFleur’s coaching tree comes directly from the McVay/Kyle Shanahan tree. In other words, these are similar offenses unless Robinson wants to make some significant changes to what he was accustomed to with the Rams. But the Falcons need to do something to replace Desmond Ridder and with the No. 8 pick, they might not get a quarterback they want without trading up.

The Bears’ opportunity for a trade will be enhanced if the Minnesota Vikings manage to re-sign Kirk Cousins. That would take Cousins off a potential list for the Falcons. I don’t think Fields is an option in Minnesota if the Vikings lose Cousins. One well-connected agent wondered if the New England Patriots loomed as a possibility. The Patriots could be drafting a quarterback at No. 3. I’m just not sure there is a robust market. Credit to Poles if he has created one.

If Poles had an offer he liked — even though deals cannot be made official until the first day of the league year on March 13 — it probably would be public right now. My hunch is maybe the Bears can get a third-round pick for Fields, and if they have a better offer, they probably should shake hands and call it a deal.

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Teams know it's gonna be a pain in the ass to roster Fields. They have to become a run first offense with tons of RPO and designed runs during an era where you win through the air. Not sure there's a lot of appetite to accommodate Fields' numerous liabilities.

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schefter on PMT friday had a decent observation.
Alex Smith went to KC for a 2 and a conditional 2/3 (was based on win total, ended up being a 2, so two 2's total).
Darnold was first traded for a package of a 6 and next years 2,4

so fields value is probably in the middle of those players, so the 2 and a 4 seems right. i think it has to be a 2 plus, no way they can accept only a 3rd

I'd disagree about the importance of "precedence". Poles can't refuse an offer of a 3rd for example and tell Atlanta that Darnold was traded for more. Atlanta isn't going to say well you know what, you're right, here's an extra second. They don't care and the prior trades don't matter. Fields' value is based on how bad a team wants him relative to other options in the 2024 market.

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Yep. This isn't a contract negotiation or even a HOF argument where precedent is a key element. Either there is a market for Fields where competition drives up his value or a 3rd is worth taking and moving on. I guess you could hope Pace has a say with the Falcons & negotiates against himself again like he did for Mitch. My guess is they have him tied to a chair with tape over his mouth until the draft though.

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The Falcons could get a 2nd round pick if the Jaguars resign Ridley.

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You mean through the draft.

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You really are making yourself into a football idiot before us all.

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fields will have a few good games a year, always a carrot, never a russel wilson, and not a lamar jackson.

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Agreed. If there were a second-round pick out there for Fields, he would be gone by now.

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I agree with that but that should change with free agent market clarity.

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Maybe. It will take multiple teams with significant interest to drive the price up. Who are those teams?

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The draft being deep with quarterbacks complicates things.

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Exactly. Plus most GMs would rather take a chance a prospect with unknown upside than a veteran with obvious flaws. Draft picks are way easier to sell to fans.

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Fields isn't a rough sell either. NFL players love him(for the wrong reasons) and there's a myth nationally that Bear fans are knowledgeable and a majority of those knowledgeable fans also side with the tough as nails Justin Fields.

We are in post Combine haze.

I think there is only 1 and possibly 2 Day 1 starters at QB in this draft.

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You think Daniels or Maye are going to sit? I can see 5 Day 1 guys. If you set the o/u at 3, I would probably take the over.

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With Wendy's surge pricing in the news, I think you can apply a similar angle to Fields. Right now there is demand for QBs but the supply outpaces demand, so it drives his price down. Once better QBs (virtually all available QBs are better bets than Fields, except maybe QBs outside the top six or seven best prospects) sign with teams, Fields price will experience a slight uptick but even that's constrained because Poles has to unload him before the draft no exceptions, and teams know that. It's like reverse captive audience - the general value of a can of coke is like 2$ but on a plane it's 5$ because consumers have no other options. So Poles will find himself in a similar position but as a seller where he's held captive by his timeline, so he has to unload Fields at a lower price that will be determined by his disadvantageous circumstances. The best price Poles can demand for Fields requires Poles to hold on to him through the draft but he can't afford to do that, so it seems like Poles will never be able to command top dollar for Fields due to those broader dynamics.

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Happy Birthday, Justin! Hopefully, you find a new home soon.

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You don't need to start Penix or Maye or Nix Day 1 to opt for them instead of Fields.

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Honest question, did the Bears misjudge the market for Fields? Seems I am seeing and hearing this more and just curious what y’all think.

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I don't think so. Poles had an idea what his market was from last offseason.

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If Fields is as great as certain Chicago media members seem to think, then a second should be an easy get. The fact that they have yet to get a second probably means the NFL does not value anywhere near where Jason Goff does.

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Shit happens is the answer. Who's supposed to know Bo Nix is possibly legit? You got Cousins out there, Wilson on a minimum contract. It's just a dearth of QBs that look decent to good to great.

Fields sucks is the answer the cult is realizing.

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The circumstances favor buyers currently more than sellers.

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