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No love for Levis. He's clearly a terrible person.

The Stroud pick was more of a coin flip and it still needs to age more. I'm impressed by the LJ call. Nailing a pick that everyone else hates is impressive.

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WIthout knowing where these guys end up, impossible to make any meaningful distinction among any of the top QBs. six of one, rotten half dozen of the other until you know who their HC and surrounding roster and organization will be their first stop in the NFL.

JJ McCarthy lands in Denver with Sean Payton or Minnesota with their receivers and HC he'll likely win Offensive ROTY.

Daniels ends up on the Redskins with that leaky O-Line he'll likely end up in hospital.

Difficult to know with Raiders, not enough of a track record with that HC.

Titans might draft a QB to compete with Levis and having Callahan Sr on staff should give either of them time to work in the pocket; but the rookie's no doubt sitting for much of their 1st season.


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Penix is the most NFL ready QB but probably with the lowest ceiling and he also likely ends up on a team that doesn't suck as much as most of the others. He's probably the rookie of the year unless Williams does great.

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Simms elaborates on his rankings here:

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/chris-simms-unbuttoned

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Simms elaborates on his rankings here:

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/chris-simms-unbuttoned


Admitted he was off on Levis and Wilson. Continued to gush over Williams, says he's generational and "has it all." Says there are a lot of "USC problems" on the tape instead of Caleb problems. Says he's already a top 3 RPO thrower in the NFL. Says Caleb's college tape is better than Mahomes' college tape. Says Caleb can be surgical if in a system, he will sit there and pick you apart.

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Penix most likely to win the Demar Hamlin Memorial Jan-2-Award for approaching death during a game.


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Simms elaborates on his rankings here:

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/chris-simms-unbuttoned


Admitted he was off on Levis and Wilson. Continued to gush over Williams, says he's generational and "has it all." Says there are a lot of "USC problems" on the tape instead of Caleb problems. Says he's already a top 3 RPO thrower in the NFL. Says Caleb's college tape is better than Mahomes' college tape. Says Caleb can be surgical if in a system, he will sit there and pick you apart.



Thankfully Utah isn't on the Bears schedule.


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Calls Daniels a "slam dunk."

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Calls Daniels a "slam dunk."

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I'm watching this now. He has some of the same issues with Daniels, but he still has him as a lock for QB2. He believes his flaws can be easily fixed with coaching.

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Yep. Here's him on Maye. Him and Dan O from ESPN seem to have similar reservations about Maye. That seems very credible coming from former QBs from different networks. Hasselback however has Maye #1. Dan O and Simms also think highly of Daniels. The only difference is Dan O has him #1 and Simms has Daniels at #2.

https://youtu.be/DB7Q9v9Kkdc?si=PsKjrNJLrWqsTioQ

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Yep. Here's him on Maye. Him and Dan O from ESPN seem to have similar reservations about Maye. That seems very credible coming from former QBs from different networks. Hasselback however has Maye #1. Dan O and Simms also think highly of Daniels. The only difference is Dan O has him #1 and Simms has Daniels at #2.

https://youtu.be/DB7Q9v9Kkdc?si=PsKjrNJLrWqsTioQ


I have no interest in hearing Orlovsky again. Simms does some form of an evaluation. I may not agree with everything he says, but he knows his shit and takes this stuff seriously. Orlovsky is an entertainer. He'll say just about anything for a soundbite.

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Simms elaborates on the rankings here: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/chris-simms-unbuttoned



Warner's rankings:

Williams
Daniels
Penix/Nix
Maye
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So Simms and Warner think the same way about Daniels.and Maye, apparently.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/s/9ZSZNiIsSa

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Simms completely torched my guy Maye. He does have some love for McCarthy. It what he says is right, it sounds like Maye will fall like an Aaron Rodgers. From being a #1 option to a late first round pick.

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[quote="Nas"][quote="veganfan21"][tweet]https://twitter.com/D_Jxmmi/status/1195718245619314688[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ThomasDwyane1/status/1637928064406495233[/tweet]

Older rankings[/quote]

No love for Levis. He's clearly a terrible person.

The Stroud pick was more of a coin flip and it still needs to age more. I'm impressed by the LJ call. Nailing a pick that everyone else hates is impressive.[/quote]

Levis is garbage.

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veganfan21 wrote:


Simms elaborates on the rankings here: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/chris-simms-unbuttoned



Warner's rankings:

Williams
Daniels
Penix/Nix
Maye
McCarthy
Rattler

So Simms and Warner think the same way about Daniels.and Maye, apparently.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/s/9ZSZNiIsSa


Here's my rank

Penix
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Williams
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Is there any in-between with you 312? Simms already atoned for his sin. He admitted he was wrong about Levis.

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Is there any in-between with you 312? Simms already atoned for his sin. He admitted he was wrong about Levis.


Levis had 1 good game.. the guy sucks.

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Trubustky had a 5 td game

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Is there any in-between with you 312? Simms already atoned for his sin. He admitted he was wrong about Levis.

No there isn’t, he just isn’t good at evaluating players.

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Is there any in-between with you 312? Simms already atoned for his sin. He admitted he was wrong about Levis.

No there isn’t, he just isn’t good at evaluating players.


Let's see your top 5 qb list.. rbs too... well compare at later date.. or are you just going to never commit to an opinion and criticize those that do?

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Is there any in-between with you 312? Simms already atoned for his sin. He admitted he was wrong about Levis.

No there isn’t, he just isn’t good at evaluating players.


Let's see your top 5 qb list.. rbs too... well compare at later date.. or are you just going to never commit to an opinion and criticize those that do?


He was on Daniels earlier than pretty much anyone.

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Simms completely torched my guy Maye. He does have some love for McCarthy. It what he says is right, it sounds like Maye will fall like an Aaron Rodgers. From being a #1 option to a late first round pick.


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"There's things you watch, and you go, 'Wow.' If you watch the highlight package, you go, 'Woah'. You watch the highlight package and you go, 'Wow, he looks the part, he's got the prototypical size, and kind of has the look of a franchise quarterback,'" Simms said.

"... You watch the best games in his career, and yeah, you'll see a few of those (great) throws, but for every one of those throws, there's five of, like, what the hell is that throw? There's no way evaluators, coaches are going to be able to get behind Drake Maye and go 'Oh yeah, he's ready to go, he should be the No. 2 or No. 3 pick in the draft.' No way! There are too many things about his game that need to be polished, better, improved."

Simms also added: "I think there's potential here. That's where it's tough. There are some things where I go, yes, but I don't think it's anywhere near right around the corner. This would be like, hey, he needs to sit on the bench a little bit and needs to work on some real mechanical issues that he has. Going through reads, I don't think he's in the same class as the guys we talked about, and I mean all of them. I think they all go through it and do it quicker. In the pocket, he's the worst in the pocket. The worst."

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That would mean MHJ is going 3rd and the Patriots could be in on Fields.

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i would watch fields on the patriots.

but can you imagine.. any team.. who did you guys get? "we got the quarterback that wasn't good enough for the bears"

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2021 his top pick was Zach Wilson


I'm not sure expecting him to be perfect is reasonable. Wilson's problem is his attitude.

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2021 his top pick was Zach Wilson


2017: Mahomes over Watson and Mitch
2018: Jackson/Allen over the others
2021: Wilson over Lawrence
2022: Stroud over Young

3/4 in those years. Have the details I can post.

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