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Free agency starts in less than 24 hours. Unless the Bears are only willing to talk to the Redskins, I think it's clear they are keeping the pick. He would be killing his trade market if this wasn't the case.
Not sure where youre getting this idea -they can literally still make a deal with any team they were talking to before for this pick.
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No, I think they knew. The way they talked about him at the end of season press conference was clear. They were balancing trying not to Mac Jones his trade value. I'm not sure what you believe that you have seen, but it feels like you're reluctant to adjust your initial views of the Poles administration.
The way they talk doesn't mean much to me, actions mean more. Its lying season and theyll say anything that fits the narrative they want to project. You choose to believe them, fair enough -I'm not sure personally. I used to beleive they made their mind up about Fields long before the season ended, now I'm not so sure that is the case.
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The draft criticism is bad. He's multiplied his picks since he arrived, and the team is primarily made up of Bears picks. He never said it would be exclusively Bears picks, but it's hard to say this team isn't being built through the draft.
1st off, the team is not made up primarily of
his picks.. (I see what you did there). Yes, he's made a trade that multiplied his picks but hes also given a few away haphazardly like the Claypool trade and the recent trade for the Bills backup -who again would most likely have been cut anyway and available for the Bears to sign while keeping their 5th this year.
Don't move goal posts on what I'm saying, I'm being critical of his willingness to toss draft picks at holes on the team that come across as impatience combined with risk that isn't necessary. Its ok to make moves, but his moves come across to me much more like Checkers than Chess.
As for the picks he's actually made, thats a separate issue we can discuss if you'd like but thats not the specific issue I'm talking about.
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The Bears still have continuity at the top. Starting over on offense isn't that significant. You could be replacing a coordinator every year if Caleb becomes a stud.
This comment would be perfectly fine if the Bears didn't also have to Can the defensive coordinator as well as most of that side of the staff as well. Not to mention, theres a big difference between losing a coordinator and an entire staff. And my point about this is more about accountability. In what world does it make sense to toss just about everyone working under the HC because they didn't do a good enough job but the Head Coach who picked them out, and was the ultimate decision maker overseeing them is somehow retained and absolved of any wrong doing?
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The medicals of Ogunjobie were looked at. Teams don't give free agents physicals before they sign them. The deal was torn up after the Bears physical. .
This isn't true at all. Teams can bring prospective free agents in for interviews, try outs and Dr. evaluations all day long prior to making a commitment to them.
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Your narrative about Sweat has been proven wrong. There was a deal in place before the trade went through. It just needed to be finalized because it came together at the last min
Show me the proof of this because every report available to me has shown that the attitude was more 'lets just get him in the building and we'll worry about a deal later'. If something contrary to that has come out, I 'havent seen it and would love to read it.
And just to be clear -I don't have a problem with the player. My comments all the way back in the thread when this trade happened should show that. I have a problem with
how Poles went about it. Theres a clear line there.
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There appears to be some expectation that he needs to be perfect in order to change the initial dislike or skepticism some fans had. I don't know if his vision will ultimately be successful, but he hasn't given me any reasons not to have faith in him. He's the only guy in the organization that's worth trusting to me.
Ahh.. and there it is, there it is. The 'he needs to be perfect' narrative that got thrown around when I was critical of Pace and Nagy as well. The same narrative that gets thrown around just about any time criticism is brought against just about anything related to these topics. I've noticed the Fields crowd using it too.
My criticism of him isn't based around whether or not he's perfect -no one bats .1000. But on the flip side you can't also disregard all criticism as lack of perfection either. I've laid out a few things here that I'm critical of with him and have been from the start -theres more things I could point out but I get the feeling that just like the past discussions with other Coaches and GM"s we're just not going to agree on this.
Now I haven't seen too many people on this board crown Poles, or proclaim him as some guru or mastermind. But I have seen plenty of it on Youtube, heard plenty of it from prognosticators and so on. All I'm saying here is, slow the role on that and don't buy into anything just yet. Poles has accomplished nothing as of yet, and neither have the Bears on his watch. Remember, this is the same team that went into the beginning of last year with all these hopes and dreams and by week 4, it looked like the ship was going down taking everyone with it. Only a weak schedule complete with some fools gold wins changed that.
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