The numbers that reveal Fields' greatness just haven't been discovered or invented yet.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

why would he care that much? if no teams want him, and he doesnt want to be a backup, what options does he have?

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Why would he care about being demoted and having a “generational talent” take over for him ?
Yea I’m sure he’ll play along , bc he was noted as being very studious before

Like Nas said they played poker and lost
Just cut him

Did they? Can you play poker when the phone doesnt ring?

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What?

Fields has struggled with accountability since he's been here. He's bus tossed coaches and teammates. It's usually subtle, but it's there.

Let's assume that he wouldn't pout and demand a trade; why would you bring your #1 pick into a hostile and toxic environment SOLELY to try to eke out a possible 3rd or 4th round pick from a team with an injury? That draft pick isn't worth dividing the locker room or possibly stunting the growth of the first pick in the draft. Damn your ego. It's bigger than that. Take the L and move on.

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It would be pointless to keep Fields around if they draft a QB -too much of a distraction from many standpoints. I look at it this way, if the Bears draft a QB and he winds up playing lights out showing us they got it right.. no ones going to care what the return for Fields was or wasn’t. Move on, one way or the other.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

I completely agree

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Yep there are only a few people worse than Fields in the 4th but in the aggregate going by both QBR and EPA Wilson was bad. Fields peers following 2023 are the Dobbs, R. Wilsons, and Howells of the world but guys talk about Fields as if he self-evidently belongs in the Prescott, Allen, etc tier. Like guys just want to assert that fields is obviously elite regardless of three years of below average performance data on Fields. It's really bizarre.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

The Mooney big deal, the Getsy hire, and the lack of interest from the league clearly say the league believes Fields is the problem.

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Because I watched the NFL last year and saw all the QB's get hurt and watched all the shitty backups step in. Fields is better than most of what I saw.

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Maybe the case for some - he was better than Zach Wilson - but he also failed to outperform Dobbs and Minshew, both of whom are journeymen QBs at best while Fields is thought of as a phenom.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Browning in Cincy and Flacco in Cleveland were also better than Fields in their brief stints.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Take a look at the list of the 58 quarterbacks who started a game last year. Exclude the starters and there aren't many that are better than Fields. My point (actually Florio's point which I agree with) was that if a QB1 goes down in the fall the potential return for Fields will be better than it is now.

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I have that list, but it doesn't have 58 QBs, more like mid 40s. It contains rankings across multiple data points, including situational rankings (this part is really harsh on Fields). In a league with 32 starters, you'll see Fields rank in the 40s on a few important metrics. So while I agree that demand for Fields may be higher if a starter goes down, Fields' below replacement-level play (per the data) suggests teams can simply sign journeymen QBs and/or unproven rookies to replace their starters and have as good a chance at success as they would if they traded for Fields. In fact, the smarter move may be to find your replacement level QB via free agency instead of trading draft capital for Fields, since the production Fields gives you - outside of rushing - is again below replacement level, so why trade capital for that kind of return when you can just spend money. Again, I just think the assumption Florio is making is that Fields adds value above replacement level, but that assumption is not grounded in Fields' performance data.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =760429258

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Well, 58 different QBs started an NFL game last year so you may want to update you data.

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I could absolutely see Payton wanting him in Denver in that gimmick QB role but they are so fucked with paying Russ and having no draft picks from trading for Russ that its not happening.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

With all of this "certainty" that Fields sucks, you still were scared to bet that the Bears would receive anything less than a 3rd Rd pick for the kid.

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Is that offer still on the table?

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For Vegan, No doubt that it is. It's his bet and his only.

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fields is the kind of guy who will take this personally, whether he's here or not. knowing the kind of guy he is, he probably would mentor caleb as much as he possibly can. you keep him for one year, and tell him that. his value will go up by being a cheerleader..

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

There is no arguing with this statement.

It says it all about Justin Fields at this point in his career.

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Yeah coaches are just known to ignore great players because….reasons.

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Ian Rappoport clears up rather easily just why there is no market for Justin Fields currently. Why would there be if he isn't on the block? Just Asking A Question

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It pisses me off.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAHAAH

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip