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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:03 am 
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Team is moving to Salt Lake City. It's finally over.


Salt Lake City is a smidge bigger than Aurora. Why are they moving there? So they can move again in another few years?

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Tall Midget wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Team is moving to Salt Lake City. It's finally over.


Salt Lake City is a smidge bigger than Aurora. Why are they moving there? So they can move again in another few years?

The owner of the Jazz just out of nowhere got a bee in his bonnet about owning an NHL team, probably so that the business-friendly Utah legislature would give him more taxpayer money to build a new arena for the Jazz.

If you count the entire media market, the whole Wasatch Front population corridor from stem to stern, it's roughly equivalent to Pittsburgh and Charlotte. However, like Miami, it's all along one axis running about 120 miles, and who knows how many people from Provo or Logan would bother driving in for games in a league that still relies on gameday revenue. Then again, the Delta Center only fits like 12,000 for hockey, so it might not matter right now.

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Tall Midget wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Team is moving to Salt Lake City. It's finally over.


Salt Lake City is a smidge bigger than Aurora. Why are they moving there? So they can move again in another few years?


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You know, there are only like two or three Mormons, if that, in the entire NHL. They're all over baseball and basketball (well, at least up through college), and football has both Utah Mormons and the big Polynesian boys named Hinckley Fa'patupui or whatever. But hockey, I think there's like one active player and a guy who does color for the Preds. It's like how the only Jews are Mathieu Schneider and shakes.

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I don't know if Salt Lake City is the best answer for the Coyotes (or another NHL team), but IMO it's a better option than Phoenix / AZ.

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I don't know if Salt Lake City is the best answer for the Coyotes (or another NHL team), but IMO it's a better option than Phoenix / AZ.



where can i find Fels' opinion on this?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:22 pm 
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BigW72 wrote:
I don't know if Salt Lake City is the best answer for the Coyotes (or another NHL team), but IMO it's a better option than Phoenix / AZ.

There's none worse. The new defense is "but they have great youth hockey programs!," which I'm sure you could say about Saskatoon, but no one's putting a team there. Everyone who has owned the Phoenix team has lost money, lied about having money, or in the case of the last guy, not paid bills and taxes. Real billionaires line up to buy marginal NBA teams like the Magic and Grizzlies, but every prospective Coyotes owner is just Lyle Lanley from the monorail episode. No one with actual money wants to run an NHL team in Phoenix. The last guy only did it because it was a way to get a sportsbook license.

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Curious Hair wrote:
BigW72 wrote:
I don't know if Salt Lake City is the best answer for the Coyotes (or another NHL team), but IMO it's a better option than Phoenix / AZ.

There's none worse. The new defense is "but they have great youth hockey programs!," which I'm sure you could say about Saskatoon, but no one's putting a team there. Everyone who has owned the Phoenix team has lost money, lied about having money, or in the case of the last guy, not paid bills and taxes. Real billionaires line up to buy marginal NBA teams like the Magic and Grizzlies, but every prospective Coyotes owner is just Lyle Lanley from the monorail episode. No one with actual money wants to run an NHL team in Phoenix. The last guy only did it because it was a way to get a sportsbook license.

I was debating this and the other NHL cities that really don't deserve an NHL club. Both Columbus and Raleigh are strange markets for a pro team. He's still in love with the Vegas Golden Knights....I still hate them. I hate their chosen team name and I resent an expansion team starting out hot like they had an advantage. I'll be curious how the Vegas experiment goes when the team turns south and has a bad stretch.

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The Whalers were originally supposed to move to Auburn Hills (Karmanos and Ilitch had some Detroit patron blood feud) but the Red Wings stomped that out in a hurry. NC State wanted a big arena for basketball and lured the NHL to help get taxpayer subsidies for it, hence Raleigh.

Staying in Hartford would have slashed travel costs for five or six teams. That's a bus trip.

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The Coyotes, or what's left of them after selling the hockey-ops side to the Utah Jazz, were supposed to bid on some plot of land next to Scottsdale, but they claimed it wasn't zoned correctly or something so they backed out and the owner apparently renounced his ownership of the team. So now the husk of the Coyotes is back with the NHL again.

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/404 ... -ownership

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PHOENIX -- Alex Meruelo is walking away from ownership of the Arizona Coyotes, putting hockey's future in the desert further in doubt.

Meruelo's son, Alex Jr., told Coyotes staff of the decision on Monday, a person with knowledge of the move told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the plans have not been made public.

Meruelo's decision to walk away from the franchise comes four days after the Arizona State Land Department announced it was canceling an auction for a 110-acre tract of land in north Phoenix that had been targeted for a new arena.

The ASLD canceled and reordered the steps for the auction on the tract of land appraised at $68.5 million, citing the need for a special use permit for the project.

PHNX's Craig Morgan first reported Meruelo's decision.

Meruelo had targeted the land to build a new arena, but when the auction for it was pushed back until this summer, he followed the advice of the NHL and opted to sell the franchise to Utah Jazz owners Ryan and Ashley Smith in April.

The Smiths moved the franchise to Salt Lake City, renaming it the Utah Hockey Club. Meruelo retained the Coyotes' name, logo and trademark with plans to resurrect the team as an expansion franchise if a new arena is built within five years.

Any expansion franchise would now be under a new owner if the NHL decides to expand. The league will likely wait a year or two for the dust to settle a bit in Arizona before looking at expansion.

The Coyotes have been searching for a permanent home almost since the day the franchise moved from Winnipeg in 1996.

The team shared a downtown Phoenix arena with the NBA's Phoenix Suns before moving to Glendale in 2003. When the city of Glendale backed out of a long-term lease agreement, the franchise's future was cast into further doubt.

The Coyotes moved across town to play at Arizona State University's Mullett Arena in 2022, but the 5,000-seat arena, by far the smallest in the NHL, was supposed to be a temporary solution until the franchise could find a new home. The NHL was reluctant to have the team continue playing at Mullett for several more years while Meruelo tried to secure the north Phoenix land, leaving the sale to the Smiths as the only viable option.

Once the land auction was canceled, Meruelo opted to back out of ownership of the franchise instead of pursuing the land any further.


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