I don't like it when athletes share opinions like this. Just play football. I don't need to hear your opinions.

For someone that supposedly "doesn't care" you seem pretty heavily invested in Butker's speech.

I don't like it when athletes share opinions like this. Just play football. I don't need to hear your opinions.

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

Because you are stupid, maybe read some books educate yourself.

We walk, talk, and won't shit our pants

and just for some context on me in the comments I make above: I've never been to a Latin Mass. I go to a parish where it's not a rock and roll mass but hardly a fire and brimstone place either. I think the the conservative group would laugh if someone categorized me in their group, let alone the very conservative like Opus Dei.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Mine was Jeff Immelt, who’d later go on to destroy GE. He said nothing of note, played it like he was doing a standup bit and gave no indication he planned to destroy a great American company.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Didn't you once lament that Pope Francis was going to far afield for you?

I don't think so. Maybe I did.

I do think he's unfocused but like Wilbon, I don't want to publicly speak badly about a fellow Jesuit.

I recognize it's a monarchy.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Yes it is.

When this is all over, which is not going to be for a while, Trump will be re-elected President.

Just right off the bat and this has already been said, the audience was like addressing the marines at guantanamo on the 4th of July.

but getting to your last sentence, completely out of the context of this thread and the speech: sure, you can increase membership with some rainbow farting. What is the value of that membership other than to pay the dues? Membership has not increased by trying to be embraced by the world. People see that message and think, rightly so, that they can just be spiritual and not have to waste all this time on "ceremony." What is the use of a membership that so lacks an understanding of their faith that they strongly hold beliefs to the contrary? We get mocked, not praised for Buddy Jesus.

I don't agree with this clip and I've never seen a single episode of the show, but it isn't without some truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BpNLiacA2o

Plant your flag. Tell the world who you are and why.

You aren't a Jesuit, neither is Wilbon.

Do you consider Francis to be liberal?

I'm just fooling with you. I'm sure you did. However, I think your perspective is influenced by the article.

He praises the women for their amazing academic accomplishments. He said that they will achieve many promotions and titles. He said they will lead successful careers. He even calls homemaker one of the most important titles, never THE only or most important.

Yet the world never included any of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JS7RIKSaCc&t=876s

Here's the speech. As an exercise for everyone, click to 11:45, the direct address to women. Listen to 14. Only listen to that part and see if you hear anything differently than you originally did.

and just for some context on me in the comments I make above: I've never been to a Latin Mass. I go to a parish where it's not a rock and roll mass but hardly a fire and brimstone place either. I think the the conservative group would laugh if someone categorized me in their group, let alone the very conservative like Opus Dei.

I honsetly don't know what is liberal or conservative as it pertains to the church. Tell me what you think. Your opinion is more informed on these issues than mine.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

You have to meet people where they are, or you'll be turning out the lights. The Catholic Church has evolved a lot over the years, even when the Pope wasn't in fear of losing his life. That isn't an accident.

I was talking to a biological woman last week. She's a Bible thumper who does great work helping ex-cons get acclimated to life after prison in Atlanta. She was talking about trying to find ways to reach these people before they offended. I mentioned doing something for young children, and she thought there were too many obstacles to accomplish that.

I firmly believe you have to appeal to kids if you want to grow the membership of any church. Embrace social media. Don't be so rigged for some things. Will it be like it was when you were coming of age? No. It never is. It's about keeping the institution alive.

Anyone remember who their commencement speaker was or what he/she said?

I've been to a few and don't recall a single one. I wasn't even sentimental at any of them. Undergrad was just something expected. Post undergrad, fuck those fucks.

I cried at son's. I cried when I dropped him off the first year. I'm a big pussy.

I almost never let good emotions out so I guess its like a dam breaking.

Religion is like Bed, Bath, and Beyond. It was very useful for a time but those days are past and it's just counting down the clock until it is gone forever.

Religion is like Bed, Bath, and Beyond. It was very useful for a time but those days are past and it's just counting down the clock until it is gone forever.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Religion is like Bed, Bath, and Beyond. It was very useful for a time but those days are past and it's just counting down the clock until it is gone forever.

Religion is like Bed, Bath, and Beyond. It was very useful for a time but those days are past and it's just counting down the clock until it is gone forever.

Robespierre was eventually a victim of the guillotine, himself.

Robespierre was eventually a victim of the guillotine, himself.

Did they sell Robespierres at BBB?

Ridiculous. Religion is part of human nature. It will ALWAYS be here. If man isn't practicing whatever it is you're calling "religion", he'll be practicing something else that is just as much a religion, whether that's faith in vaccines that is unsupported by evidence or Climate Change or Black Lives Matter or whatever.

You aren't a Jesuit, neither is Wilbon.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Ridiculous. Religion is part of human nature. It will ALWAYS be here. If man isn't practicing whatever it is you're calling "religion", he'll be practicing something else that is just as much a religion, whether that's faith in vaccines that is unsupported by evidence or Climate Change or Black Lives Matter or whatever.

That discounts the role of religion if it is just a manifestation of human nature. Sure, people will have something that guides them in life. The fact that religion can work in parallel to that is fine but also unimportant. It's not like if someone stopped going to church on Sunday they'd start robbing banks.