I go to the Mosque on 73rd and Stony so they can uplift me...

Francis will cause the Conservatives in the College of Cardinals to form a New Catholic Church. Francis has split Catholics and threw away many of the hallmarks of Catholicism set out for generations of Catholics. It would be one thing if Francis would give liturgical relevance for the massive change he is doing but he is too much of a woke branding iron and calls any conservative or Catholic who is happy with his existing belief system a fool and mocks them. In actuality, Francis is the heretical Church leader. The Church is a split waiting to happen.

Francis will cause the Conservatives in the College of Cardinals to form a New Catholic Church.

I have been a practicing Catholic for my entire life and have seen Good popes and a couple of very bad ones

How much had you drank before posting this?

that has already happened with the filioque clause, vows of celibacy for priests, papal primacy...etc.

I have been a practicing Catholic for my entire life and have seen Good popes and a couple of very bad ones

Right up until they don't accept JC as God. Then he destroys their souls.

Right up until they don't accept JC as God. Then he destroys their souls.

Sure you do. The "uplifting" done by the Islamists that bugger the little boys that they capture is great sport to them. Sadaam and his Iraqi rape rooms were celebrated as great sport by the true believers of Sharia law zealots.

I don't drink for starters, Church Lady. The truth is that Your naiveté regarding what the Conservatives actually think about the reality of Francis and uproar against his "take" on Church positions on the immorality going on right now in the world and how a so-called "good Catholic" should view and deal with it is just that, ONE MAN'S OPINION and nothing more. In other words, Crestie, you are not the decider for anyone regarding my nor anyone else's opinion on matters of their faith.

I have been a practicing Catholic for my entire life and have seen Good popes and a couple of very bad ones as has been the state of the Catholic church ever since Jesus picked Peter off of that fishing boat on Galilee. If you think that I am alone with this opinion, you just do not understand Catholic people. We know what is right and what is wrong with the leadership of our faith and our existing leadership is WRONG.

I guess you never got to the part of how good Catholics are supposed to view the pronouncements coming out of the Vatican and what they are supposed to believe versus what they are not required to believe. I was taught by some very intelligent Priests and Nuns that the Pope held sway over MATTERS OF FAITH AND MORALS. That is it. The truth is, that what is happening right now within the Church at all levels is a fracture dealing with the matters of homosexuality, gay marriage, and all of the sub issues that members of the faith are dealing with in their everyday lives. Laying off of the altar wine might leave your brain less muddled as a first re-start for you.

God loves everyone Hawk. It's that simple.

Even gay people.

that has already happened with the filioque clause, vows of celibacy for priests, papal primacy...etc.

I don't know if he is the worst bu he's definitely a bad one. Pius XII was an awful pope also as a NAZI sort of collaborator. Francis has been a bad Catholic Church honcho for a long long time and a major reason why many Catholics including myself resent his actions to turn people away from the faith with his secular type fiats including this radical outrage. It will certainly be interesting what will happen when he goes to the great beyond and the Church will decide on a new pontiff given the huge split in the hierarchy.

By any accurate yardstick, Pope Francis is no liberal.

He is emphatically opposed to abortion, even comparing it to hiring a hit man. He has referred to same-sex intimacy as sinful and refused to allow gay marriage in the church. He has not permitted women to become priests or divorced and remarried Catholics to receive Communion. He has kept the ban on contraception.

Yet he has become popular with liberals, even secular ones, for his focus on the environment and the poor and the respect and kindness he has shown marginalized groups. He has invited transgender Romans to his weekly audience and recently said trans people can serve as godparents and witnesses at weddings. He has met repeatedly with gay advocates and agreed this year it was permissible for priests to bless gay couples in some instances. (The Vatican on Monday released guidance about such blessings, saying that while they should in no way be confused with marriage rites, “the ordained minister could ask that the individuals have peace, health, a spirit of patience, dialogue, and mutual assistance — but also God’s light and strength to be able to fulfill his will completely.”)

Francis has rolled his eyes at what he sees as conservatives’ blind focus on sexual transgressions.

“We look at the so-called ‘sin of the flesh’ with a magnifying glass,” Francis said in August. “If you exploited your workers, if you lied or cheated, it didn’t matter. And instead [only] sins below the waist were relevant.”

William Doino Jr., a conservative Catholic writer who admires Francis, said that the pope “is a victim of mistaken identity” from both progressives who see him as a radical revolutionary and conservatives who view him as caving to the world.

“He’s neither. He’s sort of a transcendent figure,” said Doino. “He’s speaking from the classic Catholic position, but he’s digging more deeply into it.”

Fellow right-leaning Catholics, he said, often despise Francis because, rather than reading his writings for themselves, they allow liberals to define him in the media: “Then they react to that. They take the bait. It’s so ironic.”

I do not agree. Doino has defended Pius XII and Francis who are rightly complicit in fostering attacking traditional Catholic dogma and a path to progressive heresy. To call Francis a "conservative" and saying that Francis is speaking from a classic Catholic position is as wrong as it gets.

That simple fact that stands in the way is that God requires adherence to the fact that God says that homosexuality and all of the corollary practices that evolve from it are MORTAL SINS. And unless a person repents from his or her sinful ways before they die, they will be thrown into hell. Francis doesn't apparently agree with that policy. Instead of Francis trying to bring these sinners back into the state of grace and lead them to heaven, he takes the path of the easy way out and incredibly BLESSES their sinful ways not even explaining to them the reality of the pathway they are going leading them to HELL.

I have been a practicing Catholic for my entire life and have seen Good popes and a couple of very bad ones

Abraham didn't come down the mountain with ten party favors or ten "suggestions" for how to cross dress in the Marine corps. When Jesus kicked the money lenders and pimps and whores out of the temple, he didn't bless them either, did he? Too many people just don't listen to the real meaning of God loves them. They just take it for how these words make their sinful life "blessed".

What truth? Whose truth? Truth has nothing to do with Mortal Sin and the pathway to heaven. As for mercy, before "mercy" can be applied, the sinner must admit that he sinned and REPENT as his confessor directs him to do. Sometimes that repentance can be difficult for the winner as it should be. A murderer, for example, who confesses his sin, should not be surprised if the priest as part of the penance of the sinner demands that the murderer turn themself in to the police.