The type of “ fun” the hosts had in the past wouldn’t jibe with today’s “ evolved” scene . It just wouldn’t . Guys like Lil Danny helped usher this in too.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

It's a very different relationship from the one they had with the Sox. They shat all over the Sox and that was back when they were fielding decent teams.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

To me the worst are the player / coach interviews. None of them have anything interesting to say....even before today's cancel culture....15 years ago, a likeable guy like Mark Buehrle really had very little to say. Just wasted air space of nothing. Then there's the "experts"....yeah, let's hear Peter Gammons or Jon Heyman read off stat sheets.

Riveting.

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It's weird because I would say that mid-day B&B seemed to feature Bernstein as more of a personality, then he became a personality/stathead hybrid once Moneyball came out at the height of their power, and has since devolved into the modern era of on-air sports guy who is just an interchangeable vector for arguing about stats and making stats-based top 10 lists.

I like hearing one of the nondescript cubs advertise his coffee company. Great radio.

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Find most of the discussion and exasperating rehash of an era that will never come back, but there does seem to be value in creating at least some unique content to differentiate yourself.

The current WSCR product consists of host after host and guest after guest that give you nearly identical takes, this is quite typical of everything you find on network and cable media and is why people have and will continue to flee to digital platforms. Not sure if Bernstein could do a show where he couldn't rely on the crutch of regurgitating the approved left wing takes of the day or needlessly apply approved spin takes to any and all subjects.

Do find this modern media environment odd as you can ask two people what color the sky is and you would get two different answers, yet you had years of all the WSCR hosts telling you what a genius Matt Nagy was even though anyone with an ounce of football acumen could see the emperor was not wearing clothes.

McAfee signs a huge deal for basically doing what Pappy, Uncle Terry, and Mac were doing 20 years ago and nobody sees that the goofy approach to sports talk works? It kinda makes you wonder just how smart these radio executives are, but being an AM radio executive these days is literally like being the world's tallest midget.

The job calls for either a well intentioned idiot or a smarmy douche.

Not a ton in between.

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Moneyball the book or the movie? Because the book was '03, I started listening '06, and I don't remember him being that into sabermetrics for a while.

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Bernstein might be the prototype for the serious stat guy nerd in the local/national sports talk radio formula of pairing an Ex-jock with a nerd, come to think of it WSCR features two nerds for most of the day and almost all the guests are from the same back of the baseball card memorizing cadre of goofs.

He was definitely into it then as every baseball thought he had back then was whatever Joe Sheehan told him to think.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

This is pretty much what Barstool is (no shock McAfee's first media gig was there).

It's why if I were looking to get into sports talk as a career today, I'd be looking anywhere other than an Audacy owned station.

Nothing drove home how much modern Barstool has captured that 90s energy of sports talk than when they hosted Mike North for one of their Red Line shows a few years ago. It really struck a chord with how what they were doing at Barstool is just the modern version of what early Score was.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

He was also equally vocal about not understanding the stats he dogmatized. I think his standard explanation was something along the lines of “you have to be a rocket scientist to understand these calculations,” or some such nonsense.

He smart, but he’s language arts smart.

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It depends on the interviewer. Dan Patrick seems to get them to be interesting/fun. His show is a good mix of sports, "guy talk", and fun. Obviously not a focus on local sports but a good listen in the morning.

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Which is exactly why I always found it so weird that the Gawker crowd full-throatedly embraced sabermetrics. Like, if anyone should be analyzing baseball strictly on vibes, it's English majors from private schools who think the greatest band of all time is the Strokes.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Look how Not Mad Online he is. He's already in midseason form and they haven't even announced it yet.

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Already playing the phantom victim. He must know he has the job. Are they going to pair him with July? Seems like they would get along.

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So if it is going to be Goff what will they do? Do they just put him with Meatpants in afternoons or do they switch things up? Larry and Goff in middays and Meat and Bernsie in afternoons? that would seem like the logical choice

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

And the replies seem almost all in his favor, so he’s full of shit.

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If Goff comes back it will be the demise of that station.

and how many grindy Nico Hoerner types has Bernstein, in the past, railed against for being overloved by fans only because of demographic bias? Yet there Bernstein is, loving a light hitting, white second baseman because he does interviews with the station

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I'd give Goff the benefit of the doubt for yet another time. Maybe he learned some lessons. There was a time when Jason (and drinky) was a fun listen.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I have said it many times but maybe my mic is not on? Sabermetrics serves, not solely, the person wish to discuss baseball and baseball players without having to watch any of it. Just compare numbers and believe in them blindly.

Terry Boers and similar guys would stay up late and watch out of town baseball as well as both Chicago teams. Do you think any besides SPiegs is watching that much baseball and able to discuss it outside of WAR and all that stuff?

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Elections have consequences.

Yep.

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Elections have consequences.

To be fair , they do have Willie Harris as a coach.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Goff returning to reclaim his throne is like a movie but in real life.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Mitch has a bizarro “ Kenny signing Griffey Jr “ thing apparently. not the Goff ever really had a prime.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

It was definitely after '06 that he started becoming a total jerk about it. I remember him getting embroiled in a debate with Matt Rodewald* about RBI, where he was essentially treating him like a stupid caller. His dick behavior then took another step up when The MVP Machine came out and started to gain some traction.

*Speaking of Rodewald, he was recently involved in this bizarre piece of litigation:

https://cookcountyrecord.com/stories/64 ... strict-219

how old is he? Someone seems to have scrubbed it from these here internets.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Super well-put. Same, same. Now the Score helps me sleep.