I don't even have a twitter handle and I don't think I've ever posted anything at my facebook page. Maybe just an amplification of a charity or something.

I don't think the board hates black people. I think there are a couple of loud voices but they don't really post here. USA only came back this week.

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I don't think "the board hates black people," but I think a lot of us have gotten worked up and said things we wish we could take back. I know I have.

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Most people I dislike are white.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

completely agree

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

That's true, myself included.

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Shows what a fucking moron you are. The board just sat through three years of radio shows either directly or indirectly saying if you criticize or dont like Justin Fields its because he was black, but now those same racist Bears fans love the other black quarterback just because he plays for the Bears ? Put down the pipe son .

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

by the way, Goff's best career path still would have been in the fire department. He'd be halfway to retirement and probably be ascending quickly...and he'd still have plenty of time to do a podcast.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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You're being facetious. I know you love everybody.

#truth

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Dude, nobody listened to those shows. About 90% of the people who post in this section never heard it and never listen.

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MANY on this board were pining for Caleb Williams while Justin Fields was still the QB of the Chicago Bears, even before the team had the 1/1 pick locked up.

So try again, dumbass.

So is Juiced + Juice's Lecture Notes = MATCH?

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and I don't mean that as a slight

I was thinking just the other day that my life wouldn't have been too bad if I had gone that route.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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I just got to the part where he was bitter that Hub Arkush was getting fill-in spots, which precipitated his move to Atlanta. Of course, he referred to him as "a Score contributor, a football expert," but come on.

Also, he said he was never anyone's guy and was never under anyone's wing and everything he accomplished was entirely on merit.



You may be The Choice, but no man is an island. Senor can talk a big game about not helping anyone, but he certainly didn't hurt your trajectory. At least not for another six or seven years.

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Anyway, listened to all that, and it was enjoyable to hear some of the backstory, even if Jason going monologue gets to be a challenging listen.

I noticed he got some dates wrong, like moving to Boers & Bernstein in 2007 (it was at least '06 if not earlier), leaving for Atlanta in 2014 (it was 2012), coming to back to work with Spiegel in 2016 (2015), and maybe this is just because I'm rather good at remembering dates, but part of me is like if your timeline is off, what else is off?

His overall story arc seems to be that everything good that has happened to him is because of his work and his alone, while everything bad is the result of forces above him conspiring against him. And I don't think that's entirely false, because yeah, deCastro went over Mitch's head to fire Goff and put Mac in because he was old buddies with Mac and thought the afternoon show was going too far afield from sports talk. That happened, and deCastro wasn't entirely wrong, either. But life is full of using one's own agency to succeed and to self-sabotage, and then along the way we also get good breaks and we get bad breaks. I know I've had all four. Jason seems to preclude the possibility that anyone has ever done anything to assist him nor that he has ever done anything to hinder himself, and I don't find that completely believable. He talked about how the producers let him and Sam Fels get on the air underage. In another world, maybe a different producer says "nope, the rule's the rule" and doesn't let him on, or maybe Gleason steps in and says "hey, no more putting these kids on the air." Maybe Hood doesn't feel secure enough in his role to let a producer do an NBA hit, maybe Terry is well enough to do the show full-time at full strength and doesn't need a third mic getting in the way. Or to really put a finer point on it, if Jason were ten years younger and tried to break into radio after it had been calcified, corporatized, and fully HRified, do you think they would have let him pretend to go to school for an internship because he was a cool guy? He got in on the ground floor, or close to it, and all the credit to him for believing in himself and pursuing what he wanted, but to tell the stories of all these breaks he got without putting together that he did get some considerable help along the way seems muddled to me.

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He reads his twitter mentions too much, that's where he sees forces conspiring against him. In reality, nothing on twitter has mattered to his career one way or the other.

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Yup, much better benefits, he would have been close to a full pension and retirement by now. He then could do the poorly paid sports talk gigs as a retirement hobby.

He must be paying a ton for health insurance given he is part time at all his gigs, and no retirement plans to speak of, then you throw in child care costs, the guy is likely underwater financially at this point.

He turned down The Score because he wanted to keep on doing a podcast. He's doing alright financially.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

All of that is fine analysis but is indulgent of the delusion: The guy is sitting there on the very low rungs of the sports entertainment industry as a 40+ year old and waxing poetically to the people about how he got there. It would be like someone in middle management writing one of those business autobiographys. A few word changes and it could be seen as a warning to young people trying to get into the industry about what NOT to do.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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Yeah, I was going to say that Goff's career arc is a cautionary tale, not an inspirational story. It's like when Drinky was a spokesman for that broadcasting college: Is this really the guy you want to hold up as an example of career success to prospective students? The lack of perspective is pretty shocking, really.

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He is at a very low rung of his overall field, but he also has some level of job security, which most people on that rung don't get. That's why I think he probably made the correct call in sticking with the Bulls TV gig over returning to 670. That Bulls TV gig is something he may still have at the end of this decade. Any job at 670 would is likely to disappear before this decade is up. Goff may not have any formal education past high school, but even he can probably recognize the situation Entercom is in. Even if Mitch likes him, Mitch won't be able to save him when the bosses at Entercom pull the plug on local sports talk.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

There is a market for local sports talk on the radio. I think there will be some station offering it for as long as AM radio exists.

I do think Rick is correct in that he is doing alright financially. Alright is all right when you are young and single. Kids cost money. If you aren't saving for retirement by 40, you are way behind. Alright financially is a scary spot once adulthood hits.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

This is true and many many younger folks either don't worry or don't know what to do about it.

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Elections have consequences.

It's an especially scary place to be when you realize that you just punted on 15 years of roaring market growth where any idiot putting money into an index fund could put away enough to build a solid retirement nestegg.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

You should be saving for retirement in your first job out of school. Most companies match, so that is like a free return on what you put in. If I recall, you are supposed to have three times your annual salary saved by 40.


The power of compounding is evident when you start saving early. And yes as Ogie said, you would have missed out on a massive stock market run. I got dinged in both the dot com bust and global financial crisis, but those are mere blips now.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I'm not sure how misleading some of those studies are that most people couldn't afford a $1,000 unexpected expense....

I also don't know how many people have 120K saved by the time they are 40. I don't think many (maybe most) think about longer-term.

https://www.fool.com/retirement/how-muc ... ved-by-40/

A lot of it is as you what expect- have’s and have nots. Plenty of people live for the moment and spend just about every dollar they have and more (negative wealth due to credit card borrowing). If you revolve your credit cards, you are buried even more. A good portion of Americans only have wealth in their homes and a very small retirement balance that they tend to take a loan or distribution from at the first chance.

But there are also lots of people that start saving for retirement right away because it is easy with defined contribution plans. I recommend at least 6% of your income. With an employer match, you are likely to be saving more than 10% out of each check. That is more than enough to get your through a normal retirement. And by retirement, you should not have any other debts.

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The other thing MANY don't think of or plan for regarding retirement is housing. It happens for a ton of reasons but a lot of people have mortgages maturing after their life expectancy. That hurts the monthly cash flow when when you quit working.

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My wife was 23 when we got married. She thought I was completely nuts when I started talking to her then about retirement. Today she is very happy she listened.

And likely because he is too young, Deni$ didn't even mention Black Monday, which was my first and perhaps scariest ding. But I stayed the course and have ever since.

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