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Now let's do LTG's hand-picked evidence of Justin Fields' arm strength, an off-platform throw similar enough to warrant comparing to the Caleb example:

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This was called back due to a penalty but it was an absolute rope to Pickens

https://youtube.com/shorts/nAxZbgSMZlM? ... 0vtbaOy8w9



Ball in the air for 1.(52/60) seconds, covering 46 yards. Computes to 24.59 yards/sec, or 50.3 mph thereabouts.


You don't understand sports thus you really wouldn't be able to comprehend exactly why that throw was impressive.
Just as you wouldn't be able to comprehend how the word of Caleb's "personal QB coach" isn't the same as recording something on a "radar gun" :lol:

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Can't say I didn’t try to hip the raging rectum to the game here.

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He had a chance to demonstrate it against other NFL caliber QBs at the combine, "which" Trumps some bullshit you pulled out your ass Tee Time and ducked. Which says all that needs to be said

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Now let's do LTG's hand-picked evidence of Justin Fields' arm strength, an off-platform throw similar enough to warrant comparing to the Caleb example:

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This was called back due to a penalty but it was an absolute rope to Pickens

https://youtube.com/shorts/nAxZbgSMZlM? ... 0vtbaOy8w9



Ball in the air for 1.(52/60) seconds, covering 46 yards. Computes to 24.59 yards/sec, or 50.3 mph thereabouts.


You don't understand sports thus you really wouldn't be able to comprehend exactly why that throw was impressive.
Just as you wouldn't be able to comprehend how the word of Caleb's "personal QB coach" isn't the same as recording something on a "radar gun" :lol:

You are so blatantly dishonest it's actually quite impressive. You referred to the clip as showcasing an "absolute rope" from Justin Fields. You clearly presented it to marvel at his arm strength. Turns out, he threw that ball with just a little less velocity than Caleb Williams did from a similar platform.


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You are so blatantly dishonest


You just tried to pass off the words of Caleb's QB coach as "scientific evidence" that he has a cannon for an arm numbnuts :lol: :lol:

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We're up to Herbert, Allen, and now Mahomes that all are in a different class in terms of Arm Strength than "Elite Armed" Caleb.
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Maybe he doesn't quite have the arm strength that Mahomes does, but he's a better runner than Mahomes," Breer said. "So he can generate, like, a 40- or 50-yard run."

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You are so blatantly dishonest


You just tried to pass off the words of Caleb's QB coach as "scientific evidence" that he has a cannon for an arm numbnuts :lol: :lol:

You have no evidence to refute the words of his QB coach, the scouts evaluating Williams, nor the video evidence of Caleb throwing the ball just a hair faster than the "absolute rope" you identified from Justin Fields. You're on the run which is why you're spewing out multiple posts in a row, which in your oxygen starved brain lets you keep thinking you're not looking like an absolute moron.


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You have no evidence to refute the words of his QB coach, .


You may not be able to "comprehend" or "understand this because you are dumb as horseshit, but you have nothing which "supports" his words either :lol: :lol:

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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You have no evidence to refute the words of his QB coach, .


You may not be able to "comprehend" or "understand this because you are dumb as horseshit, but you have nothing which "supports" his words either :lol: :lol:

Why did you crop out the part about the scouts evaluating Williams as having elite-level arm strength as well as the proof I personally calculated for you?


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Using the Google machine:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... for-usc-qb

First bullet point- “Great arm talent”

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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You have no evidence to refute the words of his QB coach, .


You may not be able to "comprehend" or "understand this because you are dumb as horseshit, but you have nothing which "supports" his words either :lol: :lol:

Why did you crop out the part about the scouts evaluating Williams as having elite-level arm strength as well as the proof I personally calculated for you?


Don't you mean his Personal QB coach whose words you tried to pass off as "scientific evidence" that Caleb can throw a football 20 MPH faster than the average human? You mean that "Scout"? Just Asking Questions

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Dude truly this season is a bit of a throwaway. I believed that, this season, Fields would have better stats than Williams because Williams is a rookie doing the hardest job in sports, not just QB, but QB for the fucking bears, ya know? You guys argue all ya want I'm not worried about this year and am really only hoping for steady, but not linear, improvement in his game. Developing a qb isn't something that's done in a training camp, nor a full season. It's something that happens over time. This requires patience and time. This is going to come down to patience and time. Let's see where we are at when Williams going into the season before the end of his rookie contract.

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Using the Google machine:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... for-usc-qb

First bullet point- “Great arm talent”


Thanks for validating my point Denis. If he had a "cannon" for an arm this would read "Great" instead of "Good" velocity
Great arm talent. Throws with good velocity and can manipulate the ball's flight to make any throw.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
You have no evidence to refute the words of his QB coach, .


You may not be able to "comprehend" or "understand this because you are dumb as horseshit, but you have nothing which "supports" his words either :lol: :lol:

Why did you crop out the part about the scouts evaluating Williams as having elite-level arm strength as well as the proof I personally calculated for you?


Don't you mean his Personal QB coach whose words you tried to pass off as "scientific evidence" that Caleb can throw a football 20 MPH faster than the average human? You mean that "Scout"? Just Asking Questions

I’m sure it’s way more than 20mph faster than the average human.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
You have no evidence to refute the words of his QB coach, .


You may not be able to "comprehend" or "understand this because you are dumb as horseshit, but you have nothing which "supports" his words either :lol: :lol:

Why did you crop out the part about the scouts evaluating Williams as having elite-level arm strength as well as the proof I personally calculated for you?


Don't you mean his Personal QB coach whose words you tried to pass off as "scientific evidence" that Caleb can throw a football 20 MPH faster than the average human? You mean that "Scout"? Just Asking Questions

I’m sure it’s way more than 20mph faster than the average human.


My bad. It should have read "average QB" as the "scout", aka his personal trainer stated

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I’m assuming Joe Milton has the best arm in the NFL. He probably won’t see the field absent major injury.

Arm strength has diminishing returns. Get to a certain level and it doesn’t matter. It’s not Caleb’s superior arm strength that makes him better than Fields, it’s his superior ability to read defenses.

…and his ability to literally see what’s happening in the middle of the field without facing the sideline.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
I’m assuming Joe Milton has the best arm in the NFL. He probably won’t see the field absent major injury.

Arm strength has diminishing returns. Get to a certain level and it doesn’t matter. It’s not Caleb’s superior arm strength that makes him better than Fields, it’s his superior ability to read defenses.

…and his ability to literally see what’s happening in the middle of the field without facing the sideline.


When Caleb Williams becomes better than Justin Fields let me know. Because right now he isn't nor will he be anytime in the Near future either.
All I heard was that Fields sucked and is nothing more than a backup whom no other team wanted.
Well it's clear he isn't that and never was..Now the question becomes when will Caleb become better than him? Because right now he ain't.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
You have no evidence to refute the words of his QB coach, .


You may not be able to "comprehend" or "understand this because you are dumb as horseshit, but you have nothing which "supports" his words either :lol: :lol:

Why did you crop out the part about the scouts evaluating Williams as having elite-level arm strength as well as the proof I personally calculated for you?


Don't you mean his Personal QB coach whose words you tried to pass off as "scientific evidence" that Caleb can throw a football 20 MPH faster than the average human? You mean that "Scout"? Just Asking Questions

I’m sure it’s way more than 20mph faster than the average human.


My bad. It should have read "average QB" as the "scout", aka his personal trainer stated

The coach never said Caleb Williams throws the ball 20mph faster than average QBs you raging lunatic.


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The coach never said Caleb Williams throws the ball 20mph faster than average QBs you raging lunatic.


When it's all a lie anyway who besides your dumbass actually would give a shit? Just Asking A Question

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Dude truly this season is a bit of a throwaway. I believed that, this season, Fields would have better stats than Williams because Williams is a rookie doing the hardest job in sports, not just QB, but QB for the fucking bears, ya know? You guys argue all ya want I'm not worried about this year and am really only hoping for steady, but not linear, improvement in his game. Developing a qb isn't something that's done in a training camp, nor a full season. It's something that happens over time. This requires patience and time. This is going to come down to patience and time. Let's see where we are at when Williams going into the season before the end of his rookie contract.

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The coach never said Caleb Williams throws the ball 20mph faster than average QBs you raging lunatic.


When it's all a lie anyway who besides your dumbass actually would give a shit? Just Asking A Question

The fact is the video evidence (remember asking for that?) proves that Caleb Williams throws completely off platform harder than an "absolute rope" is thrown by Justin Fields.

Caleb Williams has elite level arm strength, there's no room to argue.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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The coach never said Caleb Williams throws the ball 20mph faster than average QBs you raging lunatic.


When it's all a lie anyway who besides your dumbass actually would give a shit? Just Asking A Question

The fact is the video evidence (remember asking for that?) proves that Caleb Williams throws completely off platform harder than an "absolute rope" is thrown by Justin Fields.

Caleb Williams has elite level arm strength, there's no room to argue.


You provided the words of his personal trainer as "scientific evidence" dumbass. But hey Cresty is impressed so that is all that matters I guess.

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I’m assuming Joe Milton has the best arm in the NFL. He probably won’t see the field absent major injury.

Arm strength has diminishing returns. Get to a certain level and it doesn’t matter. It’s not Caleb’s superior arm strength that makes him better than Fields, it’s his superior ability to read defenses.

…and his ability to literally see what’s happening in the middle of the field without facing the sideline.


When Caleb Williams becomes better than Justin Fields let me know. Because right now he isn't nor will he be anytime in the Near future either.
All I heard was that Fields sucked and is nothing more than a backup whom no other team wanted.
Well it's clear he isn't that and never was..Now the question becomes when will Caleb become better than him? Because right now he ain't.
Caleb’s better at playing QB today. Better at processing, better at pre-snap reads. He’s 4 games in and looks the part. I haven’t watched any Steelers games this year so can’t speak to whether Fields can do those things this year when he couldn’t the last three here.

I always wanted Fields to do well and he couldn’t handle reading defenses or taking care of the ball. He’d have a decent stretch here & there and revert. Seems like he had the classic Fields collapse in Indy.

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.Seems like he had the classic Fields collapse in Indy.



Yeah from other CFMB gurus who didn't bother watch the game like you didn't . The same types of gurus who provide the words of personal trainers as "scientific evidence" of someone's playing ability

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The coach never said Caleb Williams throws the ball 20mph faster than average QBs you raging lunatic.


When it's all a lie anyway who besides your dumbass actually would give a shit? Just Asking A Question

The fact is the video evidence (remember asking for that?) proves that Caleb Williams throws completely off platform harder than an "absolute rope" is thrown by Justin Fields.

Caleb Williams has elite level arm strength, there's no room to argue.

Williams has an insane arm. I’d never heard anybody who watches football suggest otherwise before this year. I think most of the Fields cult are size queens.

It’s not completely dissimilar from Kyler Murray, though he’s more of an outlier in terms of height. I read a critique of Williams pre draft that called him a “taller Kyler Murray” like that was a bad thing.

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Fields is better in every statistical category. This is quickly turning into a rout but boy does Caleb "process" defenses well :lol:

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.Seems like he had the classic Fields collapse in Indy.



Yeah from other CFMB gurus who didn't bother watch the game like you didn't . The same types of gurus who provide the words of personal trainers as "scientific evidence" of someone's playing ability

I said I didn’t watch the game. Unlike you I’m not watching split screen Bears & Steelers.

All I saw was the absurd backwards fumble and the snap off his face.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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The coach never said Caleb Williams throws the ball 20mph faster than average QBs you raging lunatic.


When it's all a lie anyway who besides your dumbass actually would give a shit? Just Asking A Question

The fact is the video evidence (remember asking for that?) proves that Caleb Williams throws completely off platform harder than an "absolute rope" is thrown by Justin Fields.

Caleb Williams has elite level arm strength, there's no room to argue.

Williams has an insane arm. I’d never heard anybody who watches football suggest otherwise before this year. I think most of the Fields cult are size queens.

It’s not completely dissimilar from Kyler Murray, though he’s more of an outlier in terms of height. I read a critique of Williams pre draft that called him a “taller Kyler Murray” like that was a bad thing.


His arm is so "insane" that it's "crazy" that he can't complete a pass longer than 5 yards huh?

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Fields is better in every statistical category. This is quickly turning into a rout but boy does Caleb "process" defenses well :lol:

I’m ok with you box score hunting. Doesn’t bother me.

I watched Fields for three years. I’ve watched Caleb for four games. My eyes work.

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