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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:10 pm 
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Hussra wrote:
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Kind of like when the metrodome inflatable roof collapsed under an heavy snow.

It looked like a dungeon in there. Hopefully the replacement roof allows more light in, similar to Allegiant Stadium in Vegas.

They're going to break ground on a replacement stadium soon (inscrutably, right next to the current one whose location everyone whines about). It wouldn't surprise me if they decide not to put any more money into it and the Rays just split the next few years between Orlando and an expanded spring training complex, whether their own or one of the other ones in the area.



Leaving the Rays west of the Bay = catering to snowbirds and tourists.

East Tampa location closer to more local, permanent population + Lakeland and even Orlando peeps.


Maybe MLB be more amenable to Rays playing in Montreal now.

I don't think Nashville has a proper MLB facility currently. Nashville Sounds play in a dated 10K capacity field that even the MiLB team wants to get the hell out of.

Vandy baseball team, despite being perennially in contention for the CWS, play at a tiny, under 4K capacity field.

NC, another potential expansion location, must have decent minor league facilities. I dunno if MLB wants to test the waters for an expansion franchise with the Rays for a season or two, even/esp with the Rays already committed to staying put in Florida.

All the other potential expansion cities out west or out of the country. Orlando is on the list; difficult to see a 3rd Florida baseball team, considering Rays and Marlins struggle to draw crowds.

Nashville’s minor league stadium is far from dated and yes the baseball team plays in a on campus stadium. There are plenty of options that are in place to build a new stadium there with multiple municipalities welcoming it.

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Be that as it may, they're not going to move the team to Nashville or Charlotte when Orlando has a stadium two hours down the road with no tenant.

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Be that as it may, they're not going to move the team to Nashville or Charlotte when Orlando has a stadium two hours down the road with no tenant.

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Designed for 115 MPH.

Category 3 tops out at 129 MPH, Cat 4 at 156 and Cat 5 higher than that. So no mystery that it blew off, right? What am I missing?


Was that still the original roof from 1988? Wouldn't surprise me if they never bothered to replace it. It's possible that a fresh roof would have made it through slightly the worse for wear, but that fiberglass with 35 years of wind, rain, and UV exposure was significantly weakened and never stood a chance.


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The roof had never been replaced in the more than 34 years since it was installed, despite being “well past its intended service life,” according to David Campbell, a principal at Geiger Engineers, the group that installed the roof for the stadium’s opening in 1990. He said the Teflon fabric’s service life is approximately 25 years.

“They plan to be in a new building in the not-too-distant future. And they were hoping, I think, to make it,” Campbell said, noting that while it was a “significant storm” the fabric was designed to “safely resist” the damage it nonetheless withstood.

“But,” he added, “the fabric is very, very old now.”

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Speaking of minor league things in TN, Knoxville (about 2.5 hours east of Nashville) has the Cubs AA team the Smokies. For Cubs and Chicago fans it is cool because they have Chicago style dogs and pizza and lots of Cubs stuff. I got to see Ben Brown start a game there. I do not waste much time with minor league games, but everyone once in a while I get to one. Seeing Mark Prior warm up in front of me down the left line for the Louisville Bats was interesting (Riggleman in the dugout and Billy Hamilton in center.

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Leaving the Rays west of the Bay = catering to snowbirds and tourists.

East Tampa location closer to more local, permanent population + Lakeland and even Orlando peeps.

Unreal that since 2008, the Rays were screaming that they had to get out of the Trop, out of St. Pete, and move to Tampa so that people could drive to games with less traffic and develop a permanent fanbase. I wonder if it's not too late to get out of building a $2 billion, 30,000-seat dome right next to the Trop.

Do they have a bunch of rich people with too much time on their hands to file lawsuits so the great skyline of Tampa Bay doesn't get ruined by having a building visible from a boat in the water?

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In Tampa Bay, the advocacy groups sue you to make you slap up hideous buildings everywhere. It's called Friends of the Hooters.

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In Tampa Bay, the advocacy groups sue you to make you slap up hideous buildings everywhere. It's called Friends of the Hooters.

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Speaking of minor league things in TN, Knoxville (about 2.5 hours east of Nashville) has the Cubs AA team the Smokies. For Cubs and Chicago fans it is cool because they have Chicago style dogs and pizza and lots of Cubs stuff. I got to see Ben Brown start a game there. I do not waste much time with minor league games, but everyone once in a while I get to one. Seeing Mark Prior warm up in front of me down the left line for the Louisville Bats was interesting (Riggleman in the dugout and Billy Hamilton in center.


Back in U of I days we drove over to Danville for a single-A game. Can't remember whose team it was but I do recall it was great fun. Maybe 50 cent hot dogs and 25 cent beers.

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NC, another potential expansion location, must have decent minor league facilities. I dunno if MLB wants to test the waters for an expansion franchise with the Rays for a season or two, even/esp with the Rays already committed to staying put in Florida.

Their AAA affiliate at Durham has a great AAA stadium which seats 10000, but is unsuitable for MLB. No room to expand things like locker rooms and training facilities to major league, no place to really improve the lighting for night games to major league standards, and the nearby hotel is an aloft. Visiting teams would have to stay 30 minutes away at the Umstead, which is a true luxury hotel on the campus of the company SAS.

Charlotte is a better option for amenities because the football stadium is nearby. But the baseball stadium itself is not that great.

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Nashville’s minor league stadium is far from dated and yes the baseball team plays in a on campus stadium. There are plenty of options that are in place to build a new stadium there with multiple municipalities welcoming it.



They should look at South/Southwest. Nashville's like Houston or Jacksonville in that the city limits go on quite a bit, esp to the north. Putting an 81 game facility with 7 PM first pitch across the river from downtown seems like a recipe for
impossible traffic across the bridges to get to the games on weeknights. They've already built up the interstates and by-passes south of the metro area. That converted SR now I-840 running south of Nashville is always a ghost-town. Good place to test out the top speed on your car.

Nashville had a $9 billion light-rail/ express bus-lines (like they have in Boston) proposal that looked like it might pass as part of the effort to get Amazon to expand in Nashville. Then the mayor lady at the time got busted cheating with her bodyguard and spending taxpayer dollars (Fani Willis style) on trips and luxury hotels and meals and clothes for herself and her bodyguard beau; since she was the main proponent of the light-rail plan it got shit-canned.


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denisdman wrote:
Speaking of minor league things in TN, Knoxville (about 2.5 hours east of Nashville) has the Cubs AA team the Smokies. For Cubs and Chicago fans it is cool because they have Chicago style dogs and pizza and lots of Cubs stuff. I got to see Ben Brown start a game there. I do not waste much time with minor league games, but everyone once in a while I get to one. Seeing Mark Prior warm up in front of me down the left line for the Louisville Bats was interesting (Riggleman in the dugout and Billy Hamilton in center.


The Smokies are moving into a new stadium in Downtown Knoxville for the 2025 season. I doubt it is of major league standard, but if it can be upgraded one option might be to leave the Smokies out at their old stadium for one last year and have the Rays play at the new stadium.

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There are like 49.5 baseball stadiums within reasonable driving distance of Tampa, they're not moving to fucking Knoxville.

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There are like 49.5 baseball stadiums within reasonable driving distance of Tampa, they're not moving to fucking Knoxville.


I wasn’t saying they were or should. I was just commenting that it is a Chicago friendly place….

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There are like 49.5 baseball stadiums within reasonable driving distance of Tampa, they're not moving to fucking Knoxville.

Most of the spring training sites in Florida are shitty. The ones that do not belong to their divisional rivals the Yankees and Red Sox.

I agree that they will probably end up in Dunedin or Tampa. I was just pointing out that Knoxville has an extra vacant ballpark.

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