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Rose colored glasses. He was so bad it was frightening. He was uber-inaccurate today. I see some posters complaining about throwing the ball out of bounds. I can think of 3 passes he didn't MEAN to throw out of bounds. They were just ugly, inexplicable, bad passes.


He got over his suckage when it mattered most. That's a positive. It’s one that can't be ignored. That said, the first 47 minutes of suckage shouldn't be ignored either.


I'm trying not to ignore it but...Good lord, that was Henry Burris bad.


He didn't turn the ball over, but I thought the first 47 minutes was the worst he's played all year.

I think the pressure of returning home with Daniels against him got to him.

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Rose colored glasses. He was so bad it was frightening. He was uber-inaccurate today. I see some posters complaining about throwing the ball out of bounds. I can think of 3 passes he didn't MEAN to throw out of bounds. They were just ugly, inexplicable, bad passes.


He got over his suckage when it mattered most. That's a positive. It’s one that can't be ignored. That said, the first 47 minutes of suckage shouldn't be ignored either.


I'm trying not to ignore it but...Good lord, that was Henry Burris bad.


He didn't turn the ball over, but I thought the first 47 minutes was the worst he's played all year.

I think the pressure of returning home with Daniels against him got to him.


You are exactly right brick. And he got bailed out on a pass interference. Call where his receiver would’ve been wide open on fourth town, and his pass would have been overthrown. Again!

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 Post subject: Re: Bears @ Commanders
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Better be suspended for at least a game, that is crazy.


Worst Bears loss ever since the Chester Marcol blocked field goal return for a touchdown

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Rose colored glasses. He was so bad it was frightening. He was uber-inaccurate today. I see some posters complaining about throwing the ball out of bounds. I can think of 3 passes he didn't MEAN to throw out of bounds. They were just ugly, inexplicable, bad passes.


He got over his suckage when it mattered most. That's a positive. It’s one that can't be ignored. That said, the first 47 minutes of suckage shouldn't be ignored either.


I'm trying not to ignore it but...Good lord, that was Henry Burris bad.


He didn't turn the ball over, but I thought the first 47 minutes was the worst he's played all year.

I think the pressure of returning home with Daniels against him got to him.



I agree. That's problematic. You've got to be able to manage those emotions. At worst, it should be a first drive problem. It lasted 47 minutes for him.

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The end to this game probably plays out differently if Waldron doesn't pull out gimmicky bullshit on the goal line in the 4th quarter.

Caleb was bad for 3 quarters (stellar in the 4th). The o-line was bad all game. Waldron sucked until the last 10 or so minutes. Does he have some kind of tick that makes him blurt out inside zone run and screen calls into the headset?

Stellar? Lmao.

Very good, then. You can't deny that he lead two great drives making all-world throws, even one or two with pressure in his face. He adjusted from his earlier poor play and helped get his team back in a position to win.

Yes the adversity was largely of his making , but would you prefer he just continued to suck?

I don’t know about all-world throws. All-world receivers perhaps.

The excuses when Williams is good are getting more ridiculous than the ones when he is bad.


He sucked yesterday and has sucked against every good team which they've played.

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He’s sucked against bad teams too.


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The all-world throws in this game? The pass to Moore was a wounded duck, lucky completion. The play to Allen was nifty but again this fifteen yard shit is great if you can also hit a deep ball every once in a while but otherwise not very good for an effective offense. The fourth down throw was dogshit, you can just count on the defender fucking up fourth down with the game on the line like that.

He’s just bad. You join me on the early anti-Caleb bandwagon or you can languish with HawaiiYou.


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You didn't rush the quarterback the last play. Daniels had all day to throw and was able to step into the throw and launch it 70 yards.

Had you been in his face, he would have never got the throw off like that, which made it possible for you to lose.

You could have taken a time-out and actually thought it over, but you didn't. This loss is on Eberfluss and the coaches with their bad strategy.


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You didn't rush the quarterback the last play. Daniels had all day to throw and was able to step into the throw and launch it 70 yards.

Had you been in his face, he would have never got the throw off like that, which made it possible for you to lose.

You could have taken a time-out and actually thought it over, but you didn't. This loss is on Eberfluss and the coaches with their bad strategy.


they also had a shadow on Daniels for the last play, just in case he was going to run 50 yards for the TD

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What's very apparent at this point is that "Generational Talent" Caleb cannot throw the ball more than 8 yards without it being an adventure. Everyone is marveling on him throwing 6 yard passes at "weird arm angles".

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You didn't rush the quarterback the last play. Daniels had all day to throw and was able to step into the throw and launch it 70 yards.

Had you been in his face, he would have never got the throw off like that, which made it possible for you to lose.

You could have taken a time-out and actually thought it over, but you didn't. This loss is on Eberfluss and the coaches with their bad strategy.


they also had a shadow on Daniels for the last play, just in case he was going to run 50 yards for the TD

And Sweat watched that play from the sidelines for some reason.

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What's very apparent at this point is that "Generational Talent" Caleb cannot throw the ball more than 8 yards without it being an adventure. Everyone is marveling on him throwing 6 yard passes at "weird arm angles".

This is why you have no credibility. He made a lot of terrible throws. In the fourth he made a lot of great throws. You can't just be negative all the time. He should have had the game won even playing one great quarter and three terrible ones.

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What's very apparent at this point is that "Generational Talent" Caleb cannot throw the ball more than 8 yards without it being an adventure. Everyone is marveling on him throwing 6 yard passes at "weird arm angles".

This is why you have no credibility.


From the same dude who says that "fairly quickly" is equivalent to a year and a half

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What's very apparent at this point is that "Generational Talent" Caleb cannot throw the ball more than 8 yards without it being an adventure. Everyone is marveling on him throwing 6 yard passes at "weird arm angles".

This is why you have no credibility.


From the same dude who says that "fairly quickly" is equivalent to a year and a half

Stop lying. He probably already is better than Fields. He will be by the start of next year.

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What's very apparent at this point is that "Generational Talent" Caleb cannot throw the ball more than 8 yards without it being an adventure. Everyone is marveling on him throwing 6 yard passes at "weird arm angles".

This is why you have no credibility.


From the same dude who says that "fairly quickly" is equivalent to a year and a half

Stop lying. He probably already is better than Fields. He will be by the start of next year.


You're bucking for a guy you just saw throw for 38 yards through 3 Quarters :lol: :lol:

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What's very apparent at this point is that "Generational Talent" Caleb cannot throw the ball more than 8 yards without it being an adventure. Everyone is marveling on him throwing 6 yard passes at "weird arm angles".

This is why you have no credibility.


From the same dude who says that "fairly quickly" is equivalent to a year and a half

Stop lying. He probably already is better than Fields. He will be by the start of next year.


You're bucking for a guy you just saw throw for 38 yards through 3 Quarters :lol: :lol:

Better than 0 in 4 quarters because they got benched for a guy who isn't good either.

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What's very apparent at this point is that "Generational Talent" Caleb cannot throw the ball more than 8 yards without it being an adventure. Everyone is marveling on him throwing 6 yard passes at "weird arm angles".

This is why you have no credibility.


From the same dude who says that "fairly quickly" is equivalent to a year and a half

Stop lying. He probably already is better than Fields. He will be by the start of next year.


You're bucking for a guy you just saw throw for 38 yards through 3 Quarters :lol: :lol:

Better than 0 in 4 quarters because they got benched for a guy who isn't good either.


You're bucking for a guy whom just saw complete 41% of his passes against a mid level defense

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Stop lying. He probably already is better than Fields. He will be by the start of next year.

There is a lot of room between “better than Fields” and “good enough to start NFL games”.


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Stop lying. He probably already is better than Fields. He will be by the start of next year.

There is a lot of room between “better than Fields” and “good enough to start NFL games”.

I said he would be better than Fields fairly quickly. Dr Style is still mad about the correct thing I said.

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What's very apparent at this point is that "Generational Talent" Caleb cannot throw the ball more than 8 yards without it being an adventure. Everyone is marveling on him throwing 6 yard passes at "weird arm angles".

This is why you have no credibility. He made a lot of terrible throws. In the fourth he made a lot of great throws. You can't just be negative all the time. He should have had the game won even playing one great quarter and three terrible ones.

None of those throws were great. The one to Moore was pure luck, wounded duck ball could’ve been easily intercepted. Oh boy he threw the ball 11 yards on the run (every NFL QB can do that) to Allen. The 4th and 3 throw? Almost certainly incompletely with or without the PI, it was overthrown and he got bailed out.


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I said he would be better than Fields fairly quickly.

So what? The point is not to be better than Fields, the point is to be as good as Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence and the harsh reality is that unless he is playing Carolina or a totally flat Jaguars team he is not even remotely close to the level of those guys.

Sure, he’s probably a little better than some back-up quarterbacks around the league. Great. He’s a bottom-five starter, maybe the worst or second worst in the league.


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I said he would be better than Fields fairly quickly.

So what? The point is not to be better than Fields, the point is to be as good as Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence and the harsh reality is that unless he is playing Carolina or a totally flat Jaguars team he is not even remotely close to the level of those guys.

Sure, he’s probably a little better than some back-up quarterbacks around the league. Great. He’s a bottom-five starter, maybe the worst or second worst in the league.

Dr Style keeps on bringing it up so ask him. It was a one time comment that Dr Style can't get over.

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What's very apparent at this point is that "Generational Talent" Caleb cannot throw the ball more than 8 yards without it being an adventure. Everyone is marveling on him throwing 6 yard passes at "weird arm angles".

This is why you have no credibility. He made a lot of terrible throws. In the fourth he made a lot of great throws. You can't just be negative all the time. He should have had the game won even playing one great quarter and three terrible ones.

None of those throws were great. The one to Moore was pure luck, wounded duck ball could’ve been easily intercepted. Oh boy he threw the ball 11 yards on the run (every NFL QB can do that) to Allen. The 4th and 3 throw? Almost certainly incompletely with or without the PI, it was overthrown and he got bailed out.

He was the best player on the field in the fourth quarter.

He may have been the worst player on the field the other three quarters though.

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I was wrong about Swift. He’s been incredible, playing at a pro bowl level. He deserves the credit but of course he gets none.


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If the coaching and linemen were so bad the Bears wouldn’t have been ripping off over seven yards a carry with Swift. It is almost impossible to play quarterback as poorly as Williams did with the receivers he has and the running game as strong as it was. Truly pathetic, practice squad level shit.


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Tough to watch a Bears QB again take a beating in huge part due to bad O lines. I could only imagine how even uglier it'd be if CW wasn't so elusive.


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Tough to watch a Bears QB again take a beating in huge part due to bad O lines. I could only imagine how even uglier it'd be if CW wasn't so elusive.

Over a 150 on the ground not including the QB. Gonna say the OL did its part to win.


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I was wrong about Swift. He’s been incredible, playing at a pro bowl level. He deserves the credit but of course he gets none.


He has been the player I thought he was, incredibly explosive but not really a between the tackles runner. He's been fantastic for several weeks and looks like he should exceed last year's pro bowl level production.

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A lot of melodrama in this thread lol


The Commanders have steamrolled most of their opposition and they needed a last second Hail Mary that was tipped by a Bears defender acting a fool to win the game. Their all world rookie QB was held 15% under his exaggerated completion %.. this considering the Bears were missing two of their best defenders in Gordon and Brisker..


The Bears have a coaching problem at this point.. it spans multiple seasons now and isn’t going to improve much. This was alway going to be an 8-9 win type team.. maybe 10 but they’d have to get a lucky break somewhere.


Caleb, the O-line, and the coaching/gameplan looked like shit but at least Caleb and co. recovered late and made a game of it. People need to take a step back and see this for what it is.

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Tough to watch a Bears QB again take a beating in huge part due to bad O lines. I could only imagine how even uglier it'd be if CW wasn't so elusive.

Over a 150 on the ground not including the QB. Gonna say the OL did its part to win.


Romo pointed out that Amegadjie threw the crucial block on Swift's long run by taking out 3 defenders. Without that one play, Swift's numbers were pedestrian.

Further, Amegadjie looked lost on several passing plays and almost got Williams killed by whiffing on at least one of his pass block attempts.

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