He has all pro to pro bowl players everywhere. It's not some magical scheme. You want to hire a guy to run an offense that currently has worse talent than any offense he's had in Detroit. Despite him showing no proof that he can lead, and LITERALLY telling the NFL for 2 straight years he wasn't capable of being the head guy.

Eberflus developed the talent on defense and they've performed better than the Johnson offensive unit has over the past year. This can't be questioned. The talent Eberflus has is above average. The talent Johnson has is ELITE and was pieced together over a decade or so. Also, Eberflus has owned Johnson H2H with lesser players and no offense.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Dang Nas, you have done something I did not think possible. You have made CofF seem like a smart sports poster.

I get you love Flus. But come on man. There is plenty of evidence to show he is not a good head coach.

_________________
"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

This isn't about a love for Eberflus. I don't love him. It is about the completely irrational hatred of him and love for some new shiny toy that MANY of you have. It wasn't two years ago that MANY in this community were upset that we didn't get the Giants package deal. You all should have whiplash as often as you move based on whatever the current media narrative is.

We're always being led to believe that something someone else has is better, even when it isn't.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

No doubt the jury is still way out on Johnson. No one knows whether he will be a good head coach or not.

But we have plenty of evidence to show Flus is not a good one. Really good DC. Not a good HC. The sooner we move on from him the better. We have a QB that needs a leader that can get the best out of him. Maybe that is Kingsbury. Maybe that is Johnson. Maybe it is someone else. But it is not Flus.

_________________
"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I don't know that it's not Eberflus. The idea that you believe it could be Kingsbury concerns me more than the blank canvas love for Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson has never been a head coach. We can project a lot of things on him. Kingsbury has failed EVERYWHERE and keeps getting a promotion. I wouldn't want him near my organization.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I would prefer it not be Kingsbury.

But the bigger point here is we are seeing more and more that it is not Flus.

_________________
"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

If the Lions continue to be this good and make the Super Bowl then Johnson may get some crazy money deal from the Cowboys or Packers.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

There’s no love lost between me and Uberloss but Nas is right. The continuity is preferable to anything other than a slam dunk hire. Don’t let the cart lead the horse, the worst thing to be on the coaching market is desperate.

Do the Bears think this way? No, they will shoo Eberflus out the door to cover for Poles & Caleb. And then next year it’ll be Poles gone. Then two years from now Caleb finally will be benched.

I can appreciate that but this off season is going to require you to either extend Eberflus or fire him (lame duck is a possibility I don't think is on the table)

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Great point. Definitely makes things more complicated. Right now with the options I see available on the coaching market I would actually extend him. Maybe just a one or two year extension, but I really don’t see anything preferable. Open to see what shakes out though.

If they fire him last year like they should have they would not have an OC picked up off the scrap pile.

You only fire him if it’s for Harbaugh. They wouldn’t hire Harbaugh no matter what.

Where would the OC come from? MANY wanted Waldron to be the Bears head coach, I believe as recently as last year.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Seahawks were not sorry to see him exit.
I don't know the list of available OC and DC on the market but if you want a good one they want some job security...not signing on with a potential lame suck coach.
Would Johnson be a good HC..who knows?
The offense would likely be better and he would hire someone with a better defensive scheme.

Literally, every coordinator on the market interviewed with the Bears. They all saw how good the defense was and believed getting their hands on Caleb could lead to them getting a head coaching job. No other team had a more attractive job.

A better defensive scheme than the one that hasn't given up 21 points in over a year, despite not having a good offense? Yeah, that's easy to find.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Should sat lame duck not lame suck.
The top OC guys don't want to come to a situation where the HC gets launched aftwr 1 year.

Eberflus runs the Pete Carroll defense nicknamed around the league as the 50 minute defense.
The same defense that didn't force a GB punt last year.
See how it plays out down the road.

Green Bay still didn't score 21 points, even though the Bears were missing key players and the Packers needed a win for the playoffs. How many other teams have gone over a year without giving up 21 points, particularly with a shit offense? Lovie Smith failed to do this with far better talent.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Eberflus is not some defensive guru who runs some exotic defense.
When the defensive line gets pressure the defense works.It's also a defense that requires DL depth.
See how it plays out.

As far as the GB game goes the game was nowhere as close as the score might indicate.

You talking about me wanting Kingsbury? No, I'd want him as an coordinator only if I couldn't get Ben Johnson. I want him nowhere near the HC position. Maybe he's learned something in try 3? His stuff will get figured out but it's a great jump start for Jayden.

I can't have an argument with you if I don't think you believe what you're saying. Eberflus is exactly what I thought he was three years ago when he was hired, and I was on record disliking the hire from day 1. He's a good DC. He is NOT a good HC nor is he suddenly going to become one. Why they didn't make a play for Harbaugh (who has his own baggage) or bring in Johnson is beyond me and it is so idiotic that they brought in Waldron. So Bears, frankly.

More of this is on Poles for going after try-hard offensive linemen instead of paying for studs. But he's not going anywhere.

_________________
Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

They haven't given up 21 points in over a year and they're in the top 3 in the NFL in points against this season. It appears to be going well with above average talent. Imagine what it could be with elite talent?

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

As I keep saying see how it plays out.
In what upcoming game or games do the Bears have an edge in coaching?
Do they have a coaching edge in any of the division games?

Which stud offensive linemen should Poles have signed? Should the Bears have fired Eberflus and gone after Ben Johnson before or after he told the NFL for the second straight year he wasn't ready to be a head coach?

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

It's played out well for over a year without a good offense and with average to above average players. Do we wait until they finally give up more than 21 points? How long are we waiting?

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

So you're ok with having the worst coaching staff in the division...ok.

You like the Pete Carroll defense...I don't...lets see how it plays out.

Yes, I love a defense that has held every team in its division and the rest of their opponents to fewer than 21 points in over a calendar year. Why don't you? Hopefully, the streak continues for at least another calendar year.

It's not Pete Carroll's defense, but I would take a defense that won 1 Super Bowl and should have won a second.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

You want to keep a guy who runs a defense that just about anyone can run with the right players but is clearly lacking in HC qualities.

By keeping him it leaves the Bears with the worst staff in the division...ok to each their own

Why aren’t the rest of the NFL running a defense that's giving up fewer than 21 points in every game for more than a calendar year? Surely, they should be able to do it better than Eberflus.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Looks like they better extend him quickly before some other team comes in and steals him away. Out on the open market who knows whart a guy with his resume would bring.
We are in Lovie-land again
As I said to each their own.