Your unwillingness to answer simple questions tells me you don't have an answer or this is a bit. Either way it's fine. Maybe the media will provide one where not giving up 21 points for over a year is a sign of incompetence.

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You’re gonna have the worst coaching staff in the division with the new guy you hire.

I don't know if they have the worst coaching staff. I do know they may have the least developed talent. That could change if Caleb grows. They may be undefeated with a Baker Mayfield.

Edit: The Bears are no worse than 6-1 if Caleb was a more seasoned quarterback from the start. Does that make Eberflus a better coach if they're 6-1? Probably not. The hope is that the payoff from Caleb's developmental struggles come on the backend.

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None of this excuses Eberflus' gross mismanagement of the two final plays on Sunday, when the Bears had over a 90% win probability. In fact, Eberflus' teams have blown something like 10 games in which the team had greater than a 90% win probability during the 4th quarter. That's bad coaching.

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I don't think he grossly mismanaged the final 2 plays and I would love the data on the 10 games the Bears should have won over the past 3 years. The Broncos game comes to mind. I remember a Fields fumble leading to a defeat and something about a FG. I Also remember Fields wetting the bed in the 4th quarter against the Lions and Tyler Scott not being able to track a ball.

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Guy isn't going anywhere for the year so fans can fire him all they want in week 8.
Lets see how the Bears do in week 9. I've got 5 reasons to pick the Cardinals. I have two reasons to pick the Bears and one of those is just plain hope in a rookie
that's currently ranked #24.

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Wattabout Kodak Black?

I like the defense and special teams. I don't know what to expect from Caleb and the offense. The video breakdowns say some was on the receivers and Waldron, but my eyes told me he pissed himself until about 10 minutes was left.

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He’s a dead man walking, this isn’t going to get any better. Flus is what he is -a good coordinator and a bad HC. Everyone knows the Bears probably won’t shit can him in season, but that won’t stop everyone from pointing out the obvious till it happens.


The problem with all this is in typical Bears fashion, they’re a season too late for a slam dunk candidate like Jim Harbaugh.


Sure there’s Billy B, but he’s old, his track record the last few seasons with OC’s isn’t great, and he might not want the headache to begin with.


Then there’s unproven routes you could take like Ben Johnson but he’s an unknown and therefore a bit of a dice roll (like many HC candidates)


The Bears fucked this up already by not grabbing Harbaugh when they had the chance. Lucking into something is about all we can hope for at this point and.. go ahead and tell me how you feel as a lifelong Bear fan about luck in regards to the Bears? I’ll hang up and listen to your answer..

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Bears fans are too impatient and traumatized.

Eberflus inherited a talentless team that was starting a gut rebuild. In less than 2 years he developed and turned a unit with 1 star into one of the best defenses in the NFL. We would hope any new hire would do the same.

The offense has gotten some pieces and need a little time to piece it together. There should be a clearer picture about Caleb and the offense in the coming weeks.

There would be growing pains with any first time head coach. Even the best head coaches make dumb decisions. We've convinced ourselves that our coach has to be perfect. The great Harbaugh had an offense that sucks, but his defense is giving up about 12 points a game.

I'm willing to give Eberflus more room to grow. I suspect, Poles isn't a guy who makes decisions based on the media or fans.

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Who do you credit Flus with developing?

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Defensive players, the defense, culture, etc.

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I meant who specifically?

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Jaylon Johnson has become a star. Brisker and Gordon are on the cusp of becoming star players. Edwards is a better linebacker than he has ever been. Sanborn is a starting-caliber player. Dexter has made a leap. Low draft picks and undrafted players are now serviceable backups. There are some successes on offense, but I do not credit him for those.

Edit: I forgot about Stevenson

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I don't think it was ever 10. Even though the probability thing isn't science or anything, losing 4 games with it is pretty bad.

Maybe it's completely unrelated, and you're right win probability is only "predictive" in the way run matrices are, but it seems like every Bears team of recent vintage, be it under Fox, Nagy, or Flus, had a bad habit of poor second half clock management whereby they'd take a lead into the later half, then turtle offensively through the third and early fourth quarters, which would result in a few teams coming back and all of a sudden the team with a lead at the half is playing from behind with an odd time left like six minutes or something like that.

I have absolutely no data to back this up.

You seem to be dodging a couple of questions.
You seem to feel Eberflus is a defensive guru...I don't...see how it plays out.

I don't think anyone expects him to be fired during the season.

Or some of us have been watching the game long enough to know what it looks like when its bad. And this is what bad looks like Nas.


You're in full meatball mode right now, and thats fine if that works for you. But I'm a realist, I see this for what it is. Its a mess. And others see it too.


Its a coach who had to fire his own entire staff in year two essentially blaming them for all the teams coaching faults without allowing any room for blame on his end. But this dickhead wants to talk about accountability. I told you all after the season ended there wouldn't be much respect left for him in that locker room after that and so far it looks like I'm about right. Its just one more reason they should have moved on from him and Poles should have hit the re-set button.


Its the captain of the ship blaming everyone else on board for hitting an iceberg when theyre the one steering the damn ship.


You know what it looks like when you get it right? Its a team that lets their all world MVP future HoF QB walk in favor of his understudy of several years that turns around after a few bumps in the road, makes a dash for the playoffs, then curb stomps an opponent in those playoffs as underdogs. Its losing that same understudy who now looks like the next future MVP early in the next season only to rip off win after win with a shitty backup, its getting that starting QB back finally only to have him go down with an injury and still pull out a win.


The Packers got it right. The Bears -again- got it wrong.


You know the funny thing about all this? The national narrative following Sundays big showdown isn't about Jayden Daniels miraculous hail Mary in the waning seconds of a game that should've been over. The narrative is instead about the dumbass undisciplined DB pointing at fans with his back turned to that final play that got caught on film by an attendee and immediately went viral showing off the classless dumbfuckery that a coach like Eberflus puts on the field as a final product. And once again following a prime time game, the Chicago Bears are in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons.


The level of your denial and hand wringing with this idiot coach is astonishing.. or at least it would be if I hadn't posted with you for years now.

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don't think LaFleur is very good with the media, doesn't seem like a confident guy....but I'd take him over Eberflus. He's proven to be a good to great play designer who somehow has made Jordan Love a good QB.

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Don't dismiss my views as being a meatball. This isn't me being a fan of Eberflus. This is me pointing out how irrational MANY of you all are being. Your realism strikes me as a person who's been hurt a lot and you're afraid of being hurt again and who's ego doesn't match their results. You patronized me with your realism about Justin Fields and you were wrong. You've done the same about Poles' trades and drafts and you've been mostly wrong.

The organization needs stability. Firing every coach, GM, and quarterback because they aren't immediate superstars won't accomplish that. Nor will being mesmerized by whatever another team has, only to later find out it was trash.

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this should be an Eberflus thread at this point. Last thing I'll say. I think he's a good DC. I think that's proven. But I don't trust him as a HC in the clutch and he's not an OC. I think OC's should be head coaches in this day and age, not DC's.

I didn't like the hire from day one. And he's done nothing to change my mind, that when key decisions are needed in crunch time, that he won't screw up. I didn't expect the Bears to make the playoffs this year, I thought next year was reasonable. And so you have a chance now, before the talent goes up more and muddles up how good or bad of a HC he actually is, to send him packing and find someone who can stand the pressure. Get me from point B to C, not A to B. Find me the next Mike Tomlin if you want a DC as a HC. Otherwise, get me a great OC who can hopefully make clearheaded HC moves in the clutch.

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This

LaFleur is the only reason the Packers aren't a total disaster, the Bears probably still have Fields if LaFleur was here instead of Eberflus, he's that good with QBs.

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I didn't expect the Bear's to make the play-offs this year and unfortunately I think that I was right. That last game was a millstone. I had them finishing at 9-8 for the season in last place in the division. Their problems are the same ones that some of us thought before the season began. The offensive line is one of the worst in football and their offensive coordinator and head coach do not know how to put an offensive game plan together and how to win a close game.

Right now the Bears are 4-3. Of the six division games, I see them winning one of them. That makes them sit at 5-8. the remaining four games I could see them winning and result in the 9-8 season and last place in the division. I might be too optimistic.

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Sorry, but when all you're spending most of your time here doing is making excuse after excuse for a coach who has the same flaws on display for two and a half seasons now.. you kind of do this to yourself. Me putting it in print (so to speak) is just stating the obvious at this point. If you dont like the way youre being viewed, you need to admit the situation that is actually on display here.





And your armchair psychiatry mistaking pragmatism for melodrama based on jaded past experience strikes me as you throwing shit at the wall hoping something sticks.


I base most of this stuff off of the current situation and the facts observed within that current situation. Nothing else -for the most part. In other words, Eberflus isn't going to fail because Nagy failed, or because the Bears organization has been a clown car for most of the past decades. If he fails, it will simply be because of decisions he makes and situations he himself creates.

If your observation about my reasoning were true I would immediately have jumped on Eberflus from the start. I would have immediately jumped on Caleb from the start.. and so on. But I didn't, I let things breathe and do my best to let situations unfold as best I can before pulling the lever and dropping the blade on it. And I've been very consistent with this since I joined this board.





Is that so? Well, forgive me for not remembering all of our interactions here but I don't recall this. So lets go back to the beginning and see if we can figure out where my 'realism' with Justin in regards to us talking is wrong.


I liked the pick when they made it, and was good with Pace making the trade up. I was ok with him playing his rookie year and understood he'd have some good and bad moments. I supported a reset for him in year 2 and understood this may set him back a bit as the team was tanking, and Justin had to learn a new offense. By the end of year 3 I had seen enough to know Fields wasn't going to work out and I moved on. It was his 2nd year in that system, he finally had a couple of weapons to throw to and still exhibited many of his flaws from past seasons with few actual improvements.


And currently it looks like my observations about Justin were pretty accurate as he finds himself benched on another team.






Ok, this I do recall. And yes, I have my issues with some of this stuff. I won't go into detail on those issues as you should know by now what they are. And this is going to be a long response as is.


But, saying 'I'm mostly wrong' is hilarious given some of those players arent on the team anymore, and some of the other situations haven't played out yet completely.





Stability?


Really?


See, this is why I said you're in full meatball mode in an earlier post. I mean, in regards specifically to Eberflus -who last year had to fire almost the entire coaching staff he hand picked- this is a pretty ridiculous comment on your end. If you really cared about 'stability' its just another thing that should be added to your own list as to why Eberflus is the wrong guy for the job. But its not, because for some reason you're infatuated with the guy and won't admit obvious glaring flaws that everyone else seems to see.. including a flaw you yourself claims to care about.

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Well this one is basically settled.

no. if you put Daniels on the bears and Williams on DC you'd be saying the opposite.