Yes, that guy.

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What do Poles,Eberflusand Waldron have in common.....Trace Armstrong is their agent.

I saw somebody floating Brian Flores yesterday and honestly, I think that’s the type of hire they’d make.

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Yup, would love a red ass guy like that and he would have the D attacking on every down.

Never will happen because George would be scared shitless of a guy like that.

If Waldron can turn the corner offensively, we'll have our coordinator for the next decade. He'll never be a head coach. The guy looks like he's about to wet himself every time he speaks. Washington may have a future somewhere.

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His offenses were dogshit, his locker room seemed to hate him, and his teams never seemed to go anywhere. Even his defense was only really good for 1 season in Miami (the year they went 10-6).


He's a bad hire for HC and theres more reasons than 'racism' keeping him from a head coaching position.


I'd rather the Bears let him become someone elses problem.


Ben Johnson is probabaly the best candidate. Unlike Matt Nagy who was holding Andy Reids pocket (and continues to do so) you can't take credit for Detroits offensive success away from him. Detroits HC is a defensive minded coach, Ben is clearly the conductor and builder of that offense. If they're giving a coordinator a shot at this thing, Ben should be the guy.


But I suspect it won't be. To me the Kingsbury thing seems to be where this is headed (if they even cut Eberflus loose). Poles has already sat down with Cliff, Caleb seems to love him, and he not only has prior NFL HC experience but he's doing great right now developing Daniels. He isn't my 1st choice (I'd roll the dice on Benny), but I think this is where it goes if anything happens. It just makes sense.

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The last game Nagy coached in KC was a total disaster and Pace still hired him. Ben Johnson is by far the best choice, so that guarantees the Bears won't get him. I'm totally resigned to this coaching cycle never ending until the McCaskeys are removed from the organization completely. It may never end.

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See this is bullshit . The Bears ( McCaskey’s) hired THE hottest coaching prospect in the league when they hired Wannstedt lo those many years ago, everyone loved the Nagy hire when it happened as he was considered a great HC prospect , Lovie was a very good hire at the time and even Trestman was thought to be an “‘outside the box , good on them for thinking that way” hire.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

John Fox was a Super Bowl winning coach that MANY loved until they didn't. This community has existed long enough where anyone can see that some of this revisionist stuff is bullshit.

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Fox was seen as a correction to Trestman’s pussification of America.

I don’t recall Nagy being what Rogue is suggesting. Trestman was absolutely not a celebrated hire; it was like a “ummm, ok, Canada?! Hotel room in Raleigh?”

I don’t remember the narrative around Lovie’s hire but if people thought he’d be good, they were correct.

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The smart fans loved Trestman. Chicago likes offensive coaches, so there was Nagy love until the last season. The Lovie love is was all over the place. He warmed our meatball hearts by talking about beating the Packers and then doing it until Cutler arrived. Not me, but most fans wanted him gone but he kept having pop up great seasons.

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George has been an unmitigated disaster since he took over as chairman. Trestman was a joke, Fox wanted one last paycheck and was clearly done caring, Nagy was Andy Reid's gopher and blew a playoff game and was then immediately hired by Pace. Eberflus was not a hot candidate at all, easy to see why now. It's not revisionism at all.

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The Fox years are so like a total blank in my fandom, they were so boring and so unremarkable because the roster was garbage and Fox had his golden parachute. George has hired nothing but terrible head coaches since 2012, that's not bullshit.

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I looked at who the QB coach is, it's Kerry Joseph.
Remember him?

I was on board with the Fox hire, and I’d like point out that he was responsible for Vic Fangio being here and most importantly told Ryan Pace to draft Patrick Mahomes. Picking the wrong QB has consequences.



As for Trestman I had just started posting here when he was brought in but I hated the hire when they made it. I wanted Bruce Ariens and thought they were insane to pass on that opportunity for a Canadian league coach. I also disagree strongly with the ‘smart fans’ wanted him comment. Unless you mean math nerds, most ‘smart’ football people questioned that hire.

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Bruce Arians was on PMT recently and tore the scab off the Trestman decision.

I remember it having something to do with their insistence that Marinelli stay onboard. Arians said he told them absolutely not, he’d be bringing Todd Bowles to be DC. They then had him sit down with Marinelli, who told Arians he had no desire to stay anyway. Yet that was the decision point.

Classic Bears stuff.

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Hub and Herb Howard Friday night both were vehement the players have never publicly challenged Flus' in-game decisions during a Twilight Zone like segment.

They also wanted Arians to do a mock press conference…even though HE HAD ALREADY BEEN AN NFL HEAD COACH and had plenty of experience doing them.

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He commented on that too. Apparently he’d just gone through a bout of vertigo and the 20 people holding the fake presser wouldn’t stop asking him about that.

Go Bears. Only the best.

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I remember a fair bit of skepticism that the Bears turned down NFL coordinators for a guy who had been coaching an entirely different code of football altogether. As soon as he gave the press conference about bonding with Jay Cutler in a Raleigh hotel room I remember it being "ohhhh crap, it's Jauron again" here.

As for Fox, I don't think anyone was particularly excited. They knew the Bears had been destroyed by Trestman and that he was there to be a transitional coach. The only person I remember being enthusiastic about John Fox was Scorehead, who had that mediocre steakhead as his avatar for a while.

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Hub is almost completely incapable of throwing heavy well thought out criticism the Bears direction. He’s a terrible and almost pointless listen when he’s talking about them. Everything he says in regards to them is milquetoast lap dog level responses.


The fact someone still pays him to come on air and have conversations about them is hilarious to me. Just about nothing is ever learned from hearing him speak about the Bear.

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I think Nagy, for all the gimmicky bullshit he tried to run wild with (remember the field goal unit having to rush onto the field for some reason?), could have been a decent enough HC with his offense. I think he's got enough of that meathead tenacity to resonate with football players while, obviously with the Chiefs, scheming guys wide fucking open. The guy gave Mitch wide open throwing windows, for the love of God. The hire was probably one of the better ones to make at that time, if I recall, it's just that his GM sucked at evaluating and acquiring talent at pretty much every position, and the team's drafting capital was further decimated by the disastrous Khalil Mack trade.

Now that I think about it, the Bears might not be terribly stupid in kicking the tires on him once again once Flus is shown the door.

Nagy went way too country club and way too smartest guy in the room. I still think he will get another chance somewhere and if he learns the lessons from what ruined him in Chicago he could be a good coach.

Nagy should sue Cody Parkey. He broke Nagy’s brain.

It’s mildly ironic, as Nagy was a big time grindy guy who worked his way up. He’s not some Shanahan or McVay who had a path laid out for him.

Yet one special teams setback lobotomized him.

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I see the argument for firing Eberflus immediately, but can the Bears risk that loss of continuity???

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But really, it's obvious Eberflus is not the coach of any sustained playoff or, dare I say, Super Bowl team. Any coach of that caliber is going to be an OC cum laude, if only because that's the way you hire offensive scheming talent in the modern NFL. You hire away from other organizations and, if they're good, protect them by making them HC.

At this point, everyone up to and including Kevin Warren should be fired. Complete incompetence.

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Why isn't he fired yet? I'm not sure if i can show up next week

Eberflus: We have to look at everything and I mean everything.
Reporter: You going to look at the play caller?
Eberflus : No

Warren is here to get the stadium deal, which looks worse for them every day. Yeah, he can go, too.

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