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The Bears offensive line did the job today and Caleb throws to a host of highly paid and/or highly drafted weapons. Swift and Roschon were on it too.

So why only nineteen points?

Cuz they blew a 2pt conversion and had a field goal blocked

Why is this offense not lighting it up when the protection is there? With Moore, Allen, Odunze, Kent and the backs this should be 30+ every time the protection comes through.

Instead it’s Fields redux. Quarterback runs, scrapping out drives, basically the type of anti-football we associate the Bears with.

Why are you saying the protection was there?

Brady went on & on about how quickly the ball was out - I think they said it was best in the league all year - and Williams was running a ton. Where did you see amazing pass pro?

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Flus played it safe.

Big mistake on his part. The job is one level too big for him.

Time to move on.




I still think Flus is gone and should be gone.. but at years end. He fucked up by trying to cover his ass bringing Waldron in over Cliff. Warren knows it, Poles knows it.


That said, I'm not hanging this loss on Flus alone. The Packers are a better team, and are better coached so its more of a testament imo that the Bears were able to hang with them. The offensive game plan was smart and simple, kept GB's offense off the field and gave the Bears a chance at the end. All you could hope for. Even the defense came up big with two crucial stops. Its just that GB played near perfect offense outside of those two drives. I was expecting the Bears to get shelled in this game, and honestly they should have. But smart coaching on offense (for once), combined with clean disciplined play by the young QB, and a couple big stops by the defense kept them in it.


Bears literally did the only thing they could to the letter to stay in this one and it almost worked. But they just aren't good enough yet.

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It's a simple question. What didn't he do well today?.


Produce Touchdowns. For the 4th straight game.

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You can answer the question. You won't though.


Your opinion of what constitutes "playing well" is EXTREMELY subjective Brick McCarver. Or shall I post all of your posts from earlier this year when Justin Fields played much better and yet you still bashed the hell out of him anyway? Just Asking A Question


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I'm not saying that you can get his Hall of Fame bust ready right now or that he is a Pro Bowler (moment of silence for that game I believe) but what I am saying is that the kid isn't a bust either.



Now what do we have here? Can you say "fraud" :lol: :lol:

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Just tuned into the game against the Utes to watch Williams start the drive down 8. It's a few plays of one drive, but he seems to be holding the ball a lot while in the pocket. And of course the announcers aren't going to be as viscious in pointing out if guys are actually open, but is that a worry spot

And just now he fumbled while trying to make an uncontested throw. That's a Bears QB of I've ever seen one, trade up if you have to.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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You can answer the question. You won't though.


Your opinion of what constitutes "playing well" is EXTREMELY subjective Brick McCarver. Or shall I post all of your posts from earlier this year when Justin Fields played much better and yet you still bashed the hell out of him anyway? Just Asking A Question


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One more week into the future, and Fields loses his 5th straight start to the Packers, throwing for 254 with no passing TDs and 2 INTs, his record as a starting QB in the NFL now down to 5-17:
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I'm not saying that you can get his Hall of Fame bust ready right now or that he is a Pro Bowler (moment of silence for that game I believe) but what I am saying is that the kid isn't a bust either.



Now what do we have here? Can you say "fraud" :lol: :lol:

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Just tuned into the game against the Utes to watch Williams start the drive down 8. It's a few plays of one drive, but he seems to be holding the ball a lot while in the pocket. And of course the announcers aren't going to be as viscious in pointing out if guys are actually open, but is that a worry spot

And just now he fumbled while trying to make an uncontested throw. That's a Bears QB of I've ever seen one, trade up if you have to.

What's "fraudulent" about anything I've said about Caleb? I haven't denied that he hasn't produced the last few weeks, and he did play pretty well today when he got rid of the ball quickly, and that allowed him to let a handful of plays develop deeper down the field.

It seems like you're grasping at straws because you now know that everyone else knows you used to praise Justin and preach tolerance of growing pains and acceptance of "moral victories" after two seasons of failure and want to call Caleb a bust after 10 games.


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They didn’t deserve it, they didn’t win it. Teams will solve this version of Caleb very quickly, I mean he pretty ass in this game like he always is but the running stuff will get shut down right away.

Caleb is the main reason they should’ve won this game.

Yeah I’ll say it’s the run game and offensive line but you do you.


The oline that gave up back to back sacks on the last drive of the game? Took Caleb escaping the third sack to save the game.

Yeah, you're an idiot. Go watch Fields hold the clipboard for a washed up R.Wilson in PITT,


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Why do we suddenly have so many Bears fans who root against the Bears?

An amalgamation of the Fields cult, people who want Flus fired, anti-Calebers, the people who have a very non-sexual not at all gay love for Fields and actual losers.


You and "Superfan" Brick are the primary reason that the Bears have been one of the laughingstocks of the league for the overwhelming portion of this Century.


Reasons people mock the Bears:

1. Losing to the Packers every game
2. The Trestman experience
3. The double doink
4. That game where they punted every drive
5. Jay Cutler being mediocre for years
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Juiced wrote:
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They didn’t deserve it, they didn’t win it. Teams will solve this version of Caleb very quickly, I mean he pretty ass in this game like he always is but the running stuff will get shut down right away.

Caleb is the main reason they should’ve won this game.

Yeah I’ll say it’s the run game and offensive line but you do you.


The oline that gave up back to back sacks on the last drive of the game? Took Caleb escaping the third sack to save the game.

Yeah, you're an idiot. Go watch Fields hold the clipboard for a washed up R.Wilson in PITT,


You mean the same Justin Fields that has produced more touchdowns in 6 games than YOUR GUY "Generational Talent" Caleb has produced in 10? That Justin Fields? Just Asking Questions

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The oline that gave up back to back sacks on the last drive of the game? Took Caleb escaping the third sack to save the game.

Yeah, you're an idiot. Go watch Fields hold the clipboard for a washed up R.Wilson in PITT,

Those were 100% Caleb sacks. Him being his usual retarded self.


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Why are you saying the protection was there?

Brady went on & on about how quickly the ball was out - I think they said it was best in the league all year - and Williams was running a ton. Where did you see amazing pass pro?

I’ve seen some pretty mid quarterbacks light it up with protection as good as the Bears offensive line gave Caleb today. Yet it was only 19 points :(

Of course it’s never Caleb’s fault right.


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It's a simple question. What didn't he do well today?

The offense not scoring 30 is not an answer.

No, he was below average and probably closer to just outright bad. With even mediocre quarterback play the Bears win that game.


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Why are you saying the protection was there?

Brady went on & on about how quickly the ball was out - I think they said it was best in the league all year - and Williams was running a ton. Where did you see amazing pass pro?

I’ve seen some pretty mid quarterbacks light it up with protection as good as the Bears offensive line gave Caleb today. Yet it was only 19 points :(

Of course it’s never Caleb’s fault right.

You have examples of mid QBs lighting it up getting the ball out in 2 seconds?

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Why are you saying the protection was there?

Brady went on & on about how quickly the ball was out - I think they said it was best in the league all year - and Williams was running a ton. Where did you see amazing pass pro?

I’ve seen some pretty mid quarterbacks light it up with protection as good as the Bears offensive line gave Caleb today. Yet it was only 19 points :(

Of course it’s never Caleb’s fault right.

You have examples of mid QBs lighting it up getting the ball out in 2 seconds?

The Bears have schemed this to be Caleb-proofed. The problem with that is they are basically hard capped at 20-ish points which isn’t really great.

He needs to throw the ball accurately downfield. He is pretty much a coin flip anywhere from the LOS to about 20 yards out…and past that 20 its horrific. He is like an all-time bad deep ball thrower.


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BUT he sure ticks those DEI boxes for George!!!


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Caleb Williams is an ugly, awful, terrible person who is everything wrong with people today. The Bears took him first overall for DEI. You are damn right I’m not too upset seeing this unravel.

This is where you fucked up and went too hard on the bit.

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Why would the McCaskeys, who I'm pretty sure are big Republican donors, care so much about DEI? It's football; everyone's already black anyway.

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He dinked and dunked to a 95 passer rating, which is a pubic hair above average. It's was his running that pushed his game today to "good".

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He also is so errant on his throws that they don’t get picked. It’s paradoxical, but if he gets a little more accurate he’ll start racking up turnovers. Now its so unclear where the ball is going to go when he throws it that even the defense can’t get under it.


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It's a simple question. What didn't he do well today?

The offense not scoring 30 is not an answer.

No, he was below average and probably closer to just outright bad. With even mediocre quarterback play the Bears win that game.

What didn't he do well today?

Is your answer "everything"?

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It's a simple question. What didn't he do well today?

The offense not scoring 30 is not an answer.

No, he was below average and probably closer to just outright bad. With even mediocre quarterback play the Bears win that game.

What didn't he do well today?

Is your answer "everything"?

No, it's the usual. Can't throw the deep ball. Although today he threw it LESS over their heads. All in all, I have no complaints other than the first series. He showed heart.

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It would help if the Bears "elite" defense could actually live up to its billing. The Packers had six possessions. They scored three touchdowns, were lucky the Packers went for it on fourth and six on another (and Love was one yard short of a touchdown on fourth down). The Packers could have easily just taken a field goal there. The Packers also threw and interception deep in Bear territory. Five of six Packer possessions went 60 yards or more. An elite defense doesn't give up a touchdown every other series


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It's a simple question. What didn't he do well today?

The offense not scoring 30 is not an answer.

No, he was below average and probably closer to just outright bad. With even mediocre quarterback play the Bears win that game.

What didn't he do well today?

Is your answer "everything"?

His accuracy is still way, way, way, below what would even be considered mediocre. He doesn’t really even try to throw more than 15 or so yards downfield at all anymore.

Maybe if he throws a touchdown pass in November I will cut him slack though. So far its been since October 13th, but yeah guys NO PROBLEM the guy is a STAR!


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It would help if the Bears "elite" defense could actually live up to its billing. The Packers had six possessions. They scored three touchdowns, were lucky the Packers went for it on fourth and six on another (and Love was one yard short of a touchdown on fourth down). The Packers could have easily just taken a field goal there. The Packers also threw and interception deep in Bear territory. Five of six Packer possessions went 60 yards or more. An elite defense doesn't give up a touchdown every other series

It’s not elite. It’s just good. Probably something like the tenth or so best in the league, and a little worse with Sweat being hurt and/or bad now and Jaquan Brisker’s brain cooked.

They kept the NFL’s ninth best offense to twenty points. That’s a fine performance for a decent defense. Yeah they’re not the 2000 Ravens, nobody says that they are.


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It would help if the Bears "elite" defense could actually live up to its billing. The Packers had six possessions. They scored three touchdowns, were lucky the Packers went for it on fourth and six on another (and Love was one yard short of a touchdown on fourth down). The Packers could have easily just taken a field goal there. The Packers also threw and interception deep in Bear territory. Five of six Packer possessions went 60 yards or more. An elite defense doesn't give up a touchdown every other series

It’s not elite. It’s just good. Probably something like the tenth or so best in the league, and a little worse with Sweat being hurt and/or bad now and Jaquan Brisker’s brain cooked.

They kept the NFL’s ninth best offense to twenty points. That’s a fine performance for a decent defense. Yeah they’re not the 2000 Ravens, nobody says that they are.



They had six possessions and if their coach doesn't have a brain fart they should have had 23 because they would have kicked the field goal. In six possessions. A normal game has about 11 drives. The Bear offense actually did a good job of controlling the ball and the clock. If it was a regular game the way the Bear defense played they could have given up 40. It's a defense that is overrated.


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It would help if the Bears "elite" defense could actually live up to its billing. The Packers had six possessions. They scored three touchdowns, were lucky the Packers went for it on fourth and six on another (and Love was one yard short of a touchdown on fourth down). The Packers could have easily just taken a field goal there. The Packers also threw and interception deep in Bear territory. Five of six Packer possessions went 60 yards or more. An elite defense doesn't give up a touchdown every other series

It’s not elite. It’s just good. Probably something like the tenth or so best in the league, and a little worse with Sweat being hurt and/or bad now and Jaquan Brisker’s brain cooked.

They kept the NFL’s ninth best offense to twenty points. That’s a fine performance for a decent defense. Yeah they’re not the 2000 Ravens, nobody says that they are.



They had six possessions and if their coach doesn't have a brain fart they should have had 23 because they would have kicked the field goal. In six possessions. A normal game has about 11 drives. The Bear offense actually did a good job of controlling the ball and the clock. If it was a regular game the way the Bear defense played they could have given up 40. It's a defense that is overrated.

This was probably the best game the offense has played for that exact reason.

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The Bears have beaten two good quarterbacks the last two years, Goff and Stafford. Any top 15 QB will pick this defense apart. The Bear defense are bum slayers


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It's a simple question. What didn't he do well today?

The offense not scoring 30 is not an answer.

No, he was below average and probably closer to just outright bad. With even mediocre quarterback play the Bears win that game.

What didn't he do well today?

Is your answer "everything"?

His accuracy is still way, way, way, below what would even be considered mediocre. He doesn’t really even try to throw more than 15 or so yards downfield at all anymore.

Maybe if he throws a touchdown pass in November I will cut him slack though. So far its been since October 13th, but yeah guys NO PROBLEM the guy is a STAR!

Almost all throws today were right where you want them. Only one major overthrow.

We aren't talking about 4 games. We are discussing this one. He was bad the last 3 games before this.

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Interesting game next week.Minnesota loves to blitz. Will the OL be able to slow it down and will thr QB make the right reads?


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