I loved the mill there with the doors open and the furnaces going. All bulldozed and now it’ll sit vacant literally forever.

What about the dopes like me that like to tailgate? If I can't tailgate I'll save the $$ and stay home, cook in the driveway and watch on TV.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

If they could afford it they would’ve done it. Arlington Heights is dead, and so are all their other dreams. They aren’t going anywhere.

Because you are stupid, maybe read some books educate yourself.

We walk, talk, and won't shit our pants

I cross through that stretch of Cortland a lot. It's bleak. The old-timey streetlights flanked by concrete barriers and gravel feels like something out of one of those post-apocalyptic video games. I don't know what can or should end up there, but a mixed-use luxury complex is very hard to imagine. I hope they do something with it soon. Red Stars stadium, maybe? Have their base of In This House families and lesbians hang out on that stretch of Armitage between Racine and Sheffield before/after games? I don't know.


Drink on the train in? I don't know. We're not Green Bay.

The McCaskeys can’t afford it. Ginny is over 100. Connect some dots.

Arlington Heights isn't dead until the Bears sell the land....or a new Bears stadium gets built elsewhere, which is not going to happen.
I fully understand the lack of cash sitting with the McCaskeys.. That point was raised even before they closed on the AH property. There has to be an outside investor already engaged. I still maintain this is negotiating and eventually an AH stadium gets done. The Bears just didn't expect this kind of strong-arm from the city and the Governor.

I loved the mill there with the doors open and the furnaces going. All bulldozed and now it’ll sit vacant literally forever.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

Iconic Browns game on the snowy lakefront and the dipshit who signed Deshaun Watson wants to replace it with an aircraft hangar and plastic grass. Man, whatever.

Because you are stupid, maybe read some books educate yourself.

We walk, talk, and won't shit our pants

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

Maybe I got caught up in it being Browns-Steelers in Midwestern winter weather. Still, the Browns of all teams should not be indoors.

Because you are stupid, maybe read some books educate yourself.

We walk, talk, and won't shit our pants

Iconic Browns game on the snowy lakefront and the dipshit who signed Deshaun Watson wants to replace it with an aircraft hangar and plastic grass. Man, whatever.

Maybe I got caught up in it being Browns-Steelers in Midwestern winter weather. Still, the Browns of all teams should not be indoors.

Don't worry, they saved the Salt Shack for Boygenius concerts. UNESCO World Heritage Site incoming.

Kevin Warren just seems to need the Bears to be on a lakefront.

Are you stoned or pissed off, or both, when you create these postings?

Nor should the bears.

Ideally the city stops being stubborn and lets them build Halas world on the lakefront and shoves Friends-of-the-Lake in a locker.

Yes it is.

When this is all over, which is not going to be for a while, Trump will be re-elected President.

Bears reach property tax deal in Arlington Heights — but stadium sights still set on Chicago, team says
After about a year of wrangling with local school districts over the size of the team’s suburban property tax bill, the Bears say their memorandum of understanding opens the runway for them to land in Arlington. Their first choice is still Chicago, though.
By Mitchell Armentrout Nov 25, 2024, 8:00pm UTC

The Bears say they want to stay in Chicago, but their potential drive to the northwest suburbs just got easier.

Team officials announced Monday they’ve reached a tentative agreement with the village of Arlington Heights and local school district leaders who’ve sparred with the Bears over the property tax valuation on the shuttered Arlington International Racecourse, the 326-acre plot the team closed on early last year as a potential new stadium site.

After about a year of wrangling over the size of the team’s property tax bill — and a year of political roadblocks to the Bears’ hopes for funding a new stadium in Chicago — the team says it has a memorandum of understanding that opens the runway for them to land in Arlington Heights.

But their first choice is still Chicago, team officials insist, raising the constant question of whether Bears’ latest announcement is a push for leverage in stadium negotiations that have now stretched over three years.

In a statement, team officials said they “remain focused on investing over $2 billion to build a publicly owned enclosed stadium on Chicago’s lakefront while reevaluating the feasibility of a development in Bronzeville.”

“That being said, we remain significant landowners in Arlington Heights and establishing a framework for potential future development planning, financing and property tax certainty has been a priority since the land was purchased. We continue to have productive conversations with the village and school districts and are aligned on a framework should we choose to explore a potential development,” team officials said.

Arlington Heights Mayor Tom Hayes said the property tax deal was not yet signed, noting it requires approval from the boards of the village, Township High School District 214, Palatine-Schaumburg High School District 211 and Palatine Township Elementary District 15.

“It’s pretty clear the Bears are still focused on the lakefront, but we’ve always considered Arlington Park and Arlington Heights a strong, if not the best contender, and I’m really optimistic about the progress we’ve made,” Hayes said.

Officials declined to say what number the sides landed on. It’s expected to be announced next week.

A year after the Bears closed on their $197.2 million purchase, the Cook County Board of Review in February handed the Bears a $124.7 million valuation on Arlington Park, which would result in a property tax hit of about $9 million.

The team argued their case to the Illinois Property Tax Appeal Board, seeking to have the valuation lowered to $60 million, for a $1.7 million tax bill.

The three suburban school districts, which are funded by property taxes, intervened in the case with proposals that would land the bill around $5 million.

Once all but certain for a suburban move, the stalemate prompted the Bears to shift their focus back toward the Museum Campus, where the team in April unveiled a proposal for a $4.7 billion dome south of Soldier Field.

Their plan, which requires upwards of $1 billion in public funding, drew cheers from Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson — and cold shoulders from state lawmakers in Springfield.

The team called an audible from their city stadium playbook earlier this month, and are now reevaluating the former Michael Reese Hospital site in Bronzeville as a potential home, despite the fact team president Kevin Warren previously dismissed it as too narrow to house a modern NFL dome.

Johnson’s office didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment on Monday’s announcement.

The Bears unveiled conceptual designs in 2022 for a massive mixed-use stadium district at Arlington Park, the home of Illinois’ most famous horse racing track for nearly a century until the last races were run in 2021.

Their suburban proposal for the sprawling plot includes office space, a sportsbook, small residential neighborhoods, retail and park space alongside a $5 billion dome. They would need state help to fund that infrastructure work, a prospect similarly stymied so far in Springfield.

Such a development would take about a decade to complete, the team has said. They’re under lease at Soldier Field through 2033.

The Arlington Heights mayor called it “a long road” to landing the property tax deal.

“We’ve been working aggressively to get everyone singing from the same music over the last year,” Hayes said, adding that he doesn’t think the Bears are merely trying to raise pressure on state lawmakers to help them stay in Chicago.

“I understand their desire to do their due diligence and get the best deal,” Hayes said. “That’s what we’re all doing.”

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

Because you are stupid, maybe read some books educate yourself.

We walk, talk, and won't shit our pants

Was the entire agreement a path to save $4m?

And these guys are going to find $5bn to build a football campus?

Was the entire agreement a path to save $4m?

And these guys are going to find $5bn to build a football campus?

Their suburban proposal for the sprawling plot includes office space, a sportsbook, small residential neighborhoods, retail and park space alongside a $5 billion dome. They would need state help to fund that infrastructure work, a prospect similarly stymied so far in Springfield.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

What state help do they think they're going to get from a governor who doesn't want the Bears 25 miles out of the city center--and doesn't want to give tax breaks to billionaires ahead of a presidential run (or brisk jog)?

Was the entire agreement a path to save $4m?

And these guys are going to find $5bn to build a football campus?

Are you stoned or pissed off, or both, when you create these postings?

I hate the McCaskeys as much as the next guy, but something about an organization with a vested interest in me paying more in property taxes intervening in my dispute with the tax assessment of my property just rubs me the wrong way.

Still, loudly bitching about the tax bill on the lot on which you hope to build a stadium in a few years is not how actually wealthy people operate.