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No Georgia or Alabama in the playoffs, wow.

Well you really fucked that one up Hawger! Thanks a lot


Georgia was in with a win next week regardless.

But not with a loss tonight and next week. Now, they can lose next week and be in.


Georgia just went through a meat grinder. They have to turn around and play a game in 7 days. Just forfeit the SEC title and be fully rested for the playoffs.

Just like Oregon, strategically forfeit vs Washington. Don’t get key players hurt.

That wasn’t my point.


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UGA pulls it out. Insane.

How many times did the announcers say this win would make them a lock for the CFP? Talking points out that the SEC championship confirmed doesn’t matter.



Like doesn’t someone at ABC have a sit down with Tessitore and tell him to shut the fuck up about saying the quiet part out loud that the SEC title game, that ABC pays a shit ton to broadcast, is essentially irrelevant?


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Great loss by Tennessee tonight. They strategically lost this game to avoid a 3rd loss in the SEC title game and will make the playoffs.

Nothing says a regular season that matters like a loss being a GOOD thing….


I guess I was wrong, Joe Tessitore told me all night tonight that the SEC title game doesn’t matter and the playoff committee will ignore it so Tennessee wouldn’t have been punished for a 3rd loss in the SEC title game.


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Things are going to get messy if A&M wins tomorrow against a team with an injured (?) QB. Line has stabilized around 5 but I thought I saw 6+ earlier this week.

Clemson-Cocks also creates some interesting hypotheticals for the playoff.

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Things are going to get messy if A&M wins tomorrow against a team with an injured (?) QB. Line has stabilized around 5 but I thought I saw 6+ earlier this week.

Clemson-Cocks also creates some interesting hypotheticals for the playoff.



What is messy about it? Tessitore told us the score of the game tonight repeatedly. 2 loss SEC teams are GUARANTEED to make the playoff. So right now, Georgia is a lock, and Texas is a lock. Tennessee is a lock with a win vs Vandy. So we now know according to Tessitore that a loss in the SEC title game doesn’t matter and 10-2 SEC teams are a LOCK for the playoffs.

If A&M wins tomorrow, that just gives the SEC a shot at 4 teams, that’s all that is at stake tomorrow. So the SEC will get two three loss teams into the playoffs and other conferences will have to sacrifice 1 or 2 loss teams. Why is this hard for you to understand. Losses don’t matter anymore in certain games. It really enhances the fun of the regular season, you don’t know which losses do and don’t matter until months after they occur.


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Sounds like you understand why it’d be messy.

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Things are going to get messy if A&M wins tomorrow against a team with an injured (?) QB. Line has stabilized around 5 but I thought I saw 6+ earlier this week.

Clemson-Cocks also creates some interesting hypotheticals for the playoff.



What is messy about it? Tessitore told us the score of the game tonight repeatedly. 2 loss SEC teams are GUARANTEED to make the playoff. So right now, Georgia is a lock, and Texas is a lock. Tennessee is a lock with a win vs Vandy. So we now know according to Tessitore that a loss in the SEC title game doesn’t matter and 10-2 SEC teams are a LOCK for the playoffs.

If A&M wins tomorrow, that just gives the SEC a shot at 4 teams, that’s all that is at stake tomorrow. So the SEC will get two three loss teams into the playoffs and other conferences will have to sacrifice 1 or 2 loss teams. Why is this hard for you to understand. Losses don’t matter anymore in certain games. It really enhances the fun of the regular season, you don’t know which losses do and don’t matter until months after they occur.

The conference title games in the 4 team playoff were mostly meaningless too.

This week is filled with meaningful games. Remember when you claimed Michigan vs OSU wouldn't be a big game now?

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Things are going to get messy if A&M wins tomorrow against a team with an injured (?) QB. Line has stabilized around 5 but I thought I saw 6+ earlier this week.

Clemson-Cocks also creates some interesting hypotheticals for the playoff.



What is messy about it? Tessitore told us the score of the game tonight repeatedly. 2 loss SEC teams are GUARANTEED to make the playoff. So right now, Georgia is a lock, and Texas is a lock. Tennessee is a lock with a win vs Vandy. So we now know according to Tessitore that a loss in the SEC title game doesn’t matter and 10-2 SEC teams are a LOCK for the playoffs.

If A&M wins tomorrow, that just gives the SEC a shot at 4 teams, that’s all that is at stake tomorrow. So the SEC will get two three loss teams into the playoffs and other conferences will have to sacrifice 1 or 2 loss teams. Why is this hard for you to understand. Losses don’t matter anymore in certain games. It really enhances the fun of the regular season, you don’t know which losses do and don’t matter until months after they occur.

The conference title games in the 4 team playoff were mostly meaningless too.

This week is filled with meaningful games. Remember when you claimed Michigan vs OSU wouldn't be a big game now?


It is meaningless, a two loss Ohio State team is making the playoff.


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Stick to baseball if you are arguing Michigan-OSU today isn't a big game.

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Stick to baseball if you are arguing Michigan-OSU today isn't a big game.



Ohio State lost to Michigan last year and went to the Ponsietta Bowl.

This year Ohio State loses to Michigan and they have to go to Tempe and look at 8,000 mega hot 19 year old girls with fake tits before they kick the shit out of the Sun Devils.

You understand how the stakes are different?


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He certainly has been

The title games are almost entirely useless now

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Side point: the college OT rules suck now.

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He certainly has been

The title games are almost entirely useless now

Not sure the ACC and Big 12 will agree with that.

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Not having a computer or a poll decide the best two teams has stripped away some of the veneer of regular season importance was mostly made up anyway.

I’m sure those GA Tech fans were indifferent to the outcome last night because a win wouldn’t have ended UGA’s title hopes.

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Not having a computer or a poll decide the best two teams has stripped away some of the veneer of regular season importance was mostly made up anyway.

I’m sure those GA Tech fans were indifferent to the outcome last night because a win wouldn’t have ended UGA’s title hopes.

It could have helped.

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Vandy on its way to ending Tennessee’s hopes.

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He certainly has been

The title games are almost entirely useless now


It’s not a right or wrong thing, it’s just a thing. If guy X likes a bigger postseason and enjoys that, I can understand that. He’s just got to understand that he’s devaluing the regular season. It’s a completely fine opinion, but you can’t have it both ways like Brick wants. Last year Ohio State vs Michigan was loser goes to Shit Bowl, winer goes to playoffs. This year it doesn’t really matter if Ohio State loses, they have clinched the playoffs.

Crest, it’s not even about being proven “right”. It’s just me repeating the obvious in spite of trained seals like Brick clapping for what the conference commissioners and TV execs tell him.

If you increase the number of participants in your postseason you devalue the regular season, you just do, regardless of the sport, regardless of the level, if you use your regular season as a gateway to the postseason, the more postseason participants you have, the less valuable the regular season.

Also, the magnitude of the increase impacts also. College football increased their post season participation by 3x. The only logical outcome was what we have now. Losses during the regular season aren’t as punitive as a year ago, and certainly nowhere near as punitive as 20 years ago.

We are one season in and announcers are openly saying that future losses don’t matter. Last year the six best teams were probably Oregon, Washington, Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia and Alabama. All six of those met head to head in titanic battles where the winner survived and the loser went to the Belk Bowl.

It’s like college football relativity, we’ve exchanged out the massive black hole gravity games, for more Mars gravity games. It’s not right or wrong, just what someone wants. I like the black hole games. But what you can’t argue is that increasing the playoff participation by 3x hasn’t reduced the black hole gravity games. It just has, only took one year for everyone but Brick to understand this.


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Not having a computer or a poll decide the best two teams has stripped away some of the veneer of regular season importance was mostly made up anyway.

I’m sure those GA Tech fans were indifferent to the outcome last night because a win wouldn’t have ended UGA’s title hopes.


Obviously Tech wants to beat UGA even if both teams are winless. It’s probably the most important game on Tech’s schedule every year, you know because of the tradition and history and pageantry of a 100+ year in state rivalry.

That’s the other thing that gets missed in the discussion and another thing that Brick claps like a trained seal for. Part and parcel to expanded playoffs has been the massive realignment and fracturing and discarding of 100s of years of history.

Bedlam = gone
Civil War = gone
Oklahoma vs Nebraska = long gone
Apple Cup = gone.

I grew up in central Illinois and tons of my friends went to U of I. I was the only Wisconsin guy. Used to be a really fun game for me and my friends that was more or less played every year. Now I guess we play Illinois every 4 years? Who knows at this point. Really excited for those Washington games though…


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He certainly has been

The title games are almost entirely useless now

Not sure the ACC and Big 12 will agree with that.


Wrong, those are the conferences that should be running to shut down their title games. Have tiebreakers settle your conference champion, and have a better shot at two teams in the playoffs. When 11-1 Miami plays 11-1 BYU the loser will be out of the playoffs, better to not saddle one of your two best teams with a loss and let them have a better W/L record to argue for an at large spot.

The ACC should be actively trying to cancel their title game for next week, that would be the smart and logical thing for them to do.


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One Post wrote:
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One Post has been proven right.


He certainly has been

The title games are almost entirely useless now


It’s not a right or wrong thing, it’s just a thing. If guy X likes a bigger postseason and enjoys that, I can understand that. He’s just got to understand that he’s devaluing the regular season. It’s a completely fine opinion, but you can’t have it both ways like Brick wants. Last year Ohio State vs Michigan was loser goes to Shit Bowl, winer goes to playoffs. This year it doesn’t really matter if Ohio State loses, they have clinched the playoffs.

Crest, it’s not even about being proven “right”. It’s just me repeating the obvious in spite of trained seals like Brick clapping for what the conference commissioners and TV execs tell him.

If you increase the number of participants in your postseason you devalue the regular season, you just do, regardless of the sport, regardless of the level, if you use your regular season as a gateway to the postseason, the more postseason participants you have, the less valuable the regular season.

Also, the magnitude of the increase impacts also. College football increased their post season participation by 3x. The only logical outcome was what we have now. Losses during the regular season aren’t as punitive as a year ago, and certainly nowhere near as punitive as 20 years ago.

We are one season in and announcers are openly saying that future losses don’t matter. Last year the six best teams were probably Oregon, Washington, Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia and Alabama. All six of those met head to head in titanic battles where the winner survived and the loser went to the Belk Bowl.

It’s like college football relativity, we’ve exchanged out the massive black hole gravity games, for more Mars gravity games. It’s not right or wrong, just what someone wants. I like the black hole games. But what you can’t argue is that increasing the playoff participation by 3x hasn’t reduced the black hole gravity games. It just has, only took one year for everyone but Brick to understand this.

You have changed your argument. It was that games like OSU-Michigan become meaningless. It's false. This game is very important still.

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OSU shouldn’t be in the playoff.

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OSU shouldn’t be in the playoff.

Along with Notre Dame


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OSU shouldn’t be in the playoff.


I thought Howard would’ve been a much better quarterback than he’s turned out to be. Chip Kelly is I don’t even know what. That offense today was pathetic. Playing against A mostly second and third string secondary.

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OSU shouldn’t be in the playoff.

Along with Notre Dame

Easy there champ

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I thought Howard would’ve been a much better quarterback than he’s turned out to be. Chip Kelly is I don’t even know what. That offense today was pathetic. Playing against A mostly second and third string secondary.

Ryan Day is a Bears-level loser.

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This season is showing we don't need a 12 team playoff. Is there going to be a 3 loss team making it?


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best part about Michigan beating Ohio State over and over is it's life or death for Ohio: the entire state, the school, their players, their alums; while no one in Michigan is either all that geeked or at all down whether Michigan wins or loses vs Ohio State.

Michigan-Michigan State ends up being the bigger rivalry (esp at the Thanksgiving table). Ohio having only one major flagship university hinges the entire state's self-worth on the performance of a handful of newly minted teenage millionaires and their middle-aged butler playing a game for 3 hours one Saturday in November.




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