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I think Ditka was important but not nearly as important as the drafter and draftees that were accumulated.

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Realizing how little most of the posters actually know about football and why most of the football discussion here is akin to a bunch of teenage girls fawning over Taylor Swift at a Chiefs game.

The Claw will continue to add at least some actual applicable football discussion when he gets bored, but the responses here are predictable and expose the posters lack of football acumen.

If you do not possess a rudimental understanding of basic fundamentals, you will always be limited in your ability to process what you see on Sundays, the posters here prove that on a daily, no make that hourly basis.

Almost comical that a grown ass football fan cannot watch all of the players on a given play and understand the play design and how the play does or does not work, here is a hint for the dumbasses here, it has a lot to do with the abilities of the lineman.

Here is one to grown on for the tepid football thinkers, why is LT considered a skill position and why do they make so much money? Watch the Niners with Trent Williams and then without, or the Rams with Aaron Donald and without, thanks for your call.

Offensive and defensive line play matters in the NFL and has a big impact on the success of teams. Shocking insight. Teach us more please.

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Clawmaster wrote:
Realizing how little most of the posters actually know about football and why most of the football discussion here is akin to a bunch of teenage girls fawning over Taylor Swift at a Chiefs game.

The Claw will continue to add at least some actual applicable football discussion when he gets bored, but the responses here are predictable and expose the posters lack of football acumen.

If you do not possess a rudimental understanding of basic fundamentals, you will always be limited in your ability to process what you see on Sundays, the posters here prove that on a daily, no make that hourly basis.

Almost comical that a grown ass football fan cannot watch all of the players on a given play and understand the play design and how the play does or does not work, here is a hint for the dumbasses here, it has a lot to do with the abilities of the lineman.

Here is one to grown on for the tepid football thinkers, why is LT considered a skill position and why do they make so much money? Watch the Niners with Trent Williams and then without, or the Rams with Aaron Donald and without, thanks for your call.

Offensive and defensive line play matters in the NFL and has a big impact on the success of teams. Shocking insight. Teach us more please.


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I think we agree on most things. I do think there is this urge to completely diminish Ditka's contribution to those Bear teams <cough> Bernstein <cough>. Ditka wasn't Gibbs, Parcells or Walsh, but he was a good coach for the Bears.

I give credit to Finks to bringing in most of the players to the Super Bowl team. And I certainly give credit to Ryan. But if Finks would have found a good quarterback in the 70's, the Bears probably would have won a division title or two before Ditka. For a former quarterback, he was lousy in picking them for the Bears until McMahon was available, and who knows if Finks would have drafted a QB that high if Ditka and Halas didn't have a say.

Ryan was also here four years before Ditka, and they didn't win really anything. Ryan also would have kept Len Walterscheid instead of Dave Duerson. And I think Ditka pushed Ryan to replace
Jim Osborne with Steve McMichael. So Ryan wasn't infallible. And Ditka's offenses did move and control the football for the most part, which helped the defense. I think the four years under Armstrong, the Bears never finished better than 22nd in total yards on offense. From 1983 thru Ditka's last year, they never finished below 13th in total yards.

Vainisi was an accountant, not a player personnel guy. He was Ditka's confidant. Actually if McCaskey doesn't fire Vainisi at the end of the 1986 season, Vainisi may have convinced Ditka to handle the 1987 strike a bit differently, not be so pro Spare Bear.


yes, for sure, more common ground that not. daniel from deerfield knows which evil generation ditka belongs to, knows how the man from bannockburn leans politically. ditka bad. easier than dumping on la russa.

as far as the rest...i felt the bears had a semblance of a defense prior to ditka's arrival. you'd get the occasional blow-out loss on astro-turf, 33-9...but, the club did make the playoffs in 79 and usually played everyone tough, defensively. no way that the greatest ever nfl defense started at ground zero in 1982. neil armstrong made his mark on D, ryan with minnesota...both came from the viking school, brought over by another ex-viking, finks. you can't argue against the minnesota defense from the late 60's on through the 70's.

as far as vainisi, i remember the contract hampton was happy with during vainisi's tenure. at the prime of his career, signed an extension that made him the 5th or 6th highest paid DL in the league. i looked it up:

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CHICAGO -- Chicago Bears defensive lineman Dan Hampton has signed a four-year contract extension starting in 1986 that will make him one of the highest-paid defensive lineman in the NFL.

The four-year package agreed to Wednesday is estimated worth $2.7 million.


just for that, virginia should have made vainisi an honorary mccaskey. other contracts that were also advantageous to the bears. i agree with you, vainisi was the first sign of stormy waters between the coaching staff and upper management. mike and mom sent a message to iron mike by firing the guy who saved the mccaskey's millions.


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That Mike Ditka sure proved is mastery of NFL coaching in New Orleans :roll:


And drafting.

Taking nothing away from the McMahon injury....Mike Ditka is the only coach that could limit that roster to only 1 Super Bowl win. There is simply no excuse that they fell short in 1986 and lost at home to the Redskins. There's much about Coach Mike Ditka that I liked and admired, but it's quite obvious he got distracted by the fame and spotlight, as did a few of his players.

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That Mike Ditka sure proved is mastery of NFL coaching in New Orleans :roll:


And drafting.

Taking nothing away from the McMahon injury....Mike Ditka is the only coach that could limit that roster to only 1 Super Bowl win. There is simply no excuse that they fell short in 1986 and lost at home to the Redskins. There's much about Coach Mike Ditka that I liked and admired, but it's quite obvious he got distracted by the fame and spotlight, as did a few of his players.


at the same time, not many would have been able to bring the Bears out of their historic mediocrity

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Bernstein must be very upset still about the election results, but it's coming across to me as a liberal looking for his safe space on left wing Blue Sky. Also think it's kind of pathetic that he now spends time on most shows talking up Blue Sky as how Twitter used to be (without the Nazi's) and spends time with the show guests congratulating them for making the move. To date, Blue Sky is where you go if you want to be alone, and in an echo chamber with moderation that is over the top

He mentioned on the air that he was trying to get the station to shift their social media there...seems like a big mistake if they moved there because he doesn't like Musk and the election results.

The way he promotes this to his guests and a few times on most shows...what a whiny penis.


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Bernstein must be very upset still about the election results, but it's coming across to me as a liberal looking for his safe space on left wing Blue Sky. Also think it's kind of pathetic that he now spends time on most shows talking up Blue Sky as how Twitter used to be (without the Nazi's) and spends time with the show guests congratulating them for making the move. To date, Blue Sky is where you go if you want to be alone, and in an echo chamber with moderation that is over the top

He mentioned on the air that he was trying to get the station to shift their social media there...seems like a big mistake if they moved there because he doesn't like Musk and the election results.

The way he promotes this to his guests and a few times on most shows...what a whiny penis.


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Bernstein must be very upset still about the election results, but it's coming across to me as a liberal looking for his safe space on left wing Blue Sky. Also think it's kind of pathetic that he now spends time on most shows talking up Blue Sky as how Twitter used to be (without the Nazi's) and spends time with the show guests congratulating them for making the move. To date, Blue Sky is where you go if you want to be alone, and in an echo chamber with moderation that is over the top

He mentioned on the air that he was trying to get the station to shift their social media there...seems like a big mistake if they moved there because he doesn't like Musk and the election results.

The way he promotes this to his guests and a few times on most shows...what a whiny penis.


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Yes, I am stating the obvious. Just frustrated to try and listen to a sports show and he is unable to help himself


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I still have not listened with the new host Harris. I still have not watched a Bulls game. The Bulls are a zero interest team, baseball teams average and one with worst record, Blackhawks bad, NFL is king and I think apathy has kicked in this year with looking forward to another draft and no playoffs.

I will be honest, the Score could have the best line up in history and I don't think anyone is listening. Sports in Chicago right now as a whole is historically bad.

While the line up does seems bland, I can't imagine any host in the country making me want to listen to anything related to Chicago sports.


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Watching the Bears is enough emotional torture but once the game is over, life goes on. But with the Score's extensive Bears coverage on every show, one is forced to relive the horror of the Bears latest flop. Who needs it? I listen to sports radio in a number of cities. As unintelligent as the callers and hosts are at WFAN New York, they have been talking baseball a lot in the weeks since their similarly awful football teams went under.


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Watching the Bears is enough emotional torture but once the game is over, life goes on. But with the Score's extensive Bears coverage on every show, one is forced to relive the horror of the Bears latest flop. Who needs it? I listen to sports radio in a number of cities. As unintelligent as the callers and hosts are at WFAN New York, they have been talking baseball a lot in the weeks since their similarly awful football teams went under.


Well, they have baseball to look forward to. We don't even have that. How about wall-to-wall Illini coverage? Citrus Bowl is less than three weeks away!

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Dan talking about venturing to 83rd Street (83!!!) to hear gospel music and eat chicken cracklings.

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Dan talking about venturing to 83rd Street (83!!!) to hear gospel music and eat chicken cracklings.


He seems to listen to a lot of christian music.

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Dan talking about venturing to 83rd Street (83!!!) to hear gospel music and eat chicken cracklings.


He seems to listen to a lot of christian music.


I haven't had cracklings since I was a kid. They're kinda stupid. Can I just have a drumstick instead?


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Leila Rahimi's NFL thoughts are not getting better.

Is she not aware of how bad Borom is this season? She is arguing he should have started because he's a veteran, etc. and would be more prepared.

No awareness of how bad he has performed this season and that he was behind the rookie on the depth chart.

The rookie should have gotten more help, that was the issue, not that Borom should be starting because he has experience.

She then went on to lecture the "process" and tell "hard truths".

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Leila Rahimi's NFL thoughts are not getting better.

Is she not aware of how bad Borom is this season? She is arguing he should have started because he's a veteran, etc. and would be more prepared.

No awareness of how bad he has performed this season and that he was behind the rookie on the depth chart.

The rookie should have gotten more help, that was the issue, not that Borom should be starting because he has experience.

She then went on to lecture the "process" and tell "hard truths".

Brutal.


It is difficult to do local sports talk radio if you do not know anything about the local teams, sure you can fill in a day a month, but you start to sound silly to the teams fans if you try to appear more often.

If you had an actual football bigfoot on the station you might be able to hide her, but you do not have that anymore.

The only relevant Bears content WSCR is putting out is the Olin appearances, maybe CHGO will have him back on so he can slap some life into that outlets rapidly declining Bears content.


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I thought is was Bernsie that was touting the need for veteran Borom. Anyway, WTF was he talking about when he claimed to be drinking Old Style and shots of Malort?

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I thought is was Bernsie that was touting the need for veteran Borom. Anyway, WTF was he talking about when he claimed to be drinking Old Style and shots of Malort?



Hes a wine guy, must have been trying to pass himself as a manly man. Noone is buying it.


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Leila Rahimi's NFL thoughts are not getting better.

Is she not aware of how bad Borom is this season? She is arguing he should have started because he's a veteran, etc. and would be more prepared.

No awareness of how bad he has performed this season and that he was behind the rookie on the depth chart.

The rookie should have gotten more help, that was the issue, not that Borom should be starting because he has experience.

She then went on to lecture the "process" and tell "hard truths".

Brutal.



Did she "bring receipts"? :lol: After getting canned from NBC 5, (which has never been mentioned/explained?) she's taking any shift she can,
if I'm Harris, I'm getting more angry with each appearance she makes on his show.

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I thought is was Bernsie that was touting the need for veteran Borom. Anyway, WTF was he talking about when he claimed to be drinking Old Style and shots of Malort?


Yup, you are not gonna get any quality football content from Bernstein either, WSCR is not exactly the place to go for quality Bears content.


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I thought is was Bernsie that was touting the need for veteran Borom. Anyway, WTF was he talking about when he claimed to be drinking Old Style and shots of Malort?


Bernstein said he understood the idea of using this time as development, but I believe he was also critical of how they used Kiram.

He was more concerned though when Jones suffered his concussion. He didn't seem to believe it was during a football game, and was maybe at home with a kitchen cabinet.


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Leila Rahimi's NFL thoughts are not getting better.

Is she not aware of how bad Borom is this season? She is arguing he should have started because he's a veteran, etc. and would be more prepared.

No awareness of how bad he has performed this season and that he was behind the rookie on the depth chart.

The rookie should have gotten more help, that was the issue, not that Borom should be starting because he has experience.

She then went on to lecture the "process" and tell "hard truths".

Brutal.



Did she "bring receipts"? :lol: After getting canned from NBC 5, (which has never been mentioned/explained?) she's taking any shift she can,
if I'm Harris, I'm getting more angry with each appearance she makes on his show.


They do devote entire segments now for her to "empty her notebook" or "bring receipts", tell those "hard truths".

I have noticed that all of the hosts are now much more aware of letting her talk.

If I'm Harris, I'm also not a huge fan of getting this job and then having the former co-host be there 2x a week while out of a job. Maybe he's secure, but this station seems to bend over backwards for her.


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Harris is just happy to have a gig like this in a major market. If he does not rock the boat he will be around for awhile. A decent dude, he does not seem to have attitude issues others at the station do.


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Harris is just happy to have a gig like this in a major market. If he does not rock the boat he will be around for awhile. A decent dude, he does not seem to have attitude issues others at the station do.


He did fall into the Bernstein political talk the other day when ripping the Chiefs kicker and lightly touching on Caitlin Clark...Bernstein hoping Butker gets run over by a truck, and calling out anyone who questioned Clark's recent comments. Harris chimed into say that he'd rather know what they believe so he knows where they stand (obviously, anyone with an opinion that opposes this show's far left views is ridiculed) as anti-woman, monsters, racists, etc.


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Harris is just happy to have a gig like this in a major market. If he does not rock the boat he will be around for awhile. A decent dude, he does not seem to have attitude issues others at the station do.


Harris shows on Linkedin as looking for work which might be a reason to keep Leila for now


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Harris is just happy to have a gig like this in a major market. If he does not rock the boat he will be around for awhile. A decent dude, he does not seem to have attitude issues others at the station do.


Harris shows on Linkedin as looking for work which might be a reason to keep Leila for now


I feel like it's a matter of time before they just give her a full time slot with this show. Maybe she's trying to find another TV job, and she doesn't need/want to do that just yet, but I can't imagine there's a ton of TV openings


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Dan is really going out of his way to praise Dan Campbell saying he's smarter than people think, his wife has a crush on him, and something he did during an on-field interview was adorable.

Dan saying nice things about Campbell is not something I expected to hear.


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Dan is really going out of his way to praise Dan Campbell saying he's smarter than people think, his wife has a crush on him, and something he did during an on-field interview was adorable.

Dan saying nice things about Campbell is not something I expected to hear.


Yeah his go to would be to call him meat head Neanderthal.

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