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Curious Hair

Post subject: Re: The death of the RSN's

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:23 pm

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Tigers and Rays will take cuts and stay with their RSNs for one more year. The Tigers, reading between the lines, want to buy themselves some time to get something set up with the Red Wings, and the Rays have bigger problems to worry about at the moment.

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Curious Hair

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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:54 pm

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Reds in-housed, Rangers and Royals still in some sort of purgatory.

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Nardi

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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:15 am

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The death spiral begins. The next CBA is going to be very interesting. The Dodgers, and Yankees have to play somebody, you know. Insolvent can't field a team.

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Warren Newson

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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:40 am

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Unless the owners are just going to agree to some kind of percentage split of the revenue (unlikely), the players have bigger problems than the terms of the CBA. You can have all of the terms you want, but if 80% of the teams refuse to enter into mega deals, there are going to be fewer of them.

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Clawmaster

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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:02 am

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Nardi wrote:

The death spiral begins. The next CBA is going to be very interesting. The Dodgers, and Yankees have to play somebody, you know. Insolvent can't field a team.

It does seem that baseball will decline significantly within the next 5-10 years, aging fanbase and a lack of local TV coverage which makes the product less accessible to casual fans.

You are kind of back to the future where the Yankees can buy all the best players, the small market franchises already cannot afford to keep home grown talent once they reach free agency, and now they might not be able to fund farm systems.

The loss of the local TV broadcasts and the unique local TV play by play guys is really the end of an era, used to be that you knew it was summer once you heard Harry Carey or Hawk's voice.

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Reared on the Score

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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:36 pm

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Warren Newson wrote:

Unless the owners are just going to agree to some kind of percentage split of the revenue (unlikely)

why not, there's already a lot of revenue sharing and now there are far more 'have nots' than the Dodgers, Yankees. Even the Cubs would do the Reinsdorfian thing (with the Bulls) and push for more financial parity even though they'd get screwed.

they could reason that 50% of TV revenue goes to the league. Like mentioned above, these big market teams have to play somebody for there to be an airing

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Warren Newson

Post subject: Re: The death of the RSN's

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:43 pm

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Reared on the Score wrote:

Warren Newson wrote:

Unless the owners are just going to agree to some kind of percentage split of the revenue (unlikely)

You could be right. This passage:

The issue in MLB getting the other clubs on board is that they are in very different financial positions. Broadly speaking, the larger-market clubs are in better shape, both because of stronger viewership bases and because the club and its broadcaster are often the same company. If all the clubs were cobbled together as part of some bundle which spread the profits around, that would benefit the smaller clubs while harming the larger ones

sounds a lot like NFL style television revenue sharing.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/11/ ... plans.html

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Curious Hair

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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:12 pm

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Curious Hair wrote:

Spitballin' here:

The NHL's ESPN deal, also includes farming out the old out-of-market package to ESPN+, runs through 2029. The Rogers deal for Canadian TV expires in 2026, and they've already begun subcontracting out their Monday night games to Prime Video. I think the NHL will follow the lead of MLS and sell a leaguewide streaming contract: MLS is on Apple TV+, so I could see the NHL going to Prime. This would mean the end of territorial restrictions and the beginning of everything being available to everyone for a price. The Chicago Sports Network and the OTA/DTC models elsewhere around the league are likely just a stopgap until the league can get the big enchilada. Sure, the CBC and an American network will get their little cutouts, but you gotta believe that's the eventual goal.

Said this about hockey but it seems to be the case for baseball, too. Just gotta mark time until 2028 and then it's going to be a whole paradigm shift of how baseball is televised.

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BigW72

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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:28 am

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Curious Hair wrote:

Said this about hockey but it seems to be the case for baseball, too. Just gotta mark time until 2028 and then it's going to be a whole paradigm shift of how baseball is televised.

I cannot wait for the territorial restrictions to be lifted....it cannot happen soon enough. I'll be curious to how supply and demand settle how it's priced for consumers.

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Reared on the Score

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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:32 am

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CHSN and Marquee may merge to help negotiating power with Comcast/Xfinity

https://awfulannouncing.com/local-netwo ... spute.html

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Reared on the Score

Post subject: Re: The death of the RSN's

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:43 pm

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Reared on the Score wrote:

CHSN and Marquee may merge to help negotiating power with Comcast/Xfinity

https://awfulannouncing.com/local-netwo ... spute.html

Or not
https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports-med ... d-to-merge

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