It was quite interesting to watch a team that has obviously quit be coached by guys that have no idea what they are doing.

It created some almost comical moments.

Glad to see some of the "Bears Experts" finally recognizing how bad Edmunds is at playing the MLB position, welcome aboard, you are only a season behind. Still do not understand why Edmunds is dropping twenty yards deep on third and 7, and why he is so slow in reacting, the entire premise for the cover 2 is that all of the plays are in front of the DB's and LB's, they should be able to come up and tackle a guy as soon as he catches the ball, but every week you see Edmunds hesitate or avoid contact all together when he should be stopping a guy in his tracks, it is the entire reason they signed him, supposedly good in coverage, but terrible in run support, currently he is terrible in coverage and even worse in run support, stealing money.

The bizarre lack of focus from Stevenson, even after his embarrassing failure against Washington, makes one think that he will be an early casualty when the new HC takes over, the national ESPN guys ripped the Bears players, and rightly said they all were playing for jobs next year, a half dozen or so guys are playing themselves off the roster.

Found it interesting that a guy they signed off the Packers practice squad looked like the best defensive tackle on the roster. A guy that actually comes off the ball and attacks the guard and center, what a novel concept, maybe Poles will learn what an actual NFL DT looks like.

Still do not get what the OC was doing early in the game, he finally started giving his rookie LT help after almost getting his rookie QB killed, even finally put Lewis on the left side which actually helped the run game for a series! Is there something in the water at Halas Hall that makes offensive coaches lose their minds, every other team gives underperforming LT's help with a TE or back, it took the OC an entire half to do what a decent Madden player would do to protect his QB.

Does seem that our interim HC will do a great job next year as an offensive quality control coach on someone elses staff, hopefully he will be able to carry several cups of coffee and a few bags of scones.

i didn't say most desired. We'll have to see what happens with all the teams to determine that

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Bears organization is on par with a team like Jacksonville.

Oh ok I guess I misinterpreted you agreeing that its “the best out there” as you saying its the best job out there.

by the way, the bengals, organizationally, aren't all that different from the bears. It's the unicorn organization that is bad only because of the HC

bears will have 3 top 50 picks (more likely top 40), $85 million in cap space, and a lot of good parts to work with (including Williams but I don't want that fight to get lost in the other positives). That is very attractive to any coach. Correct the lines and this is a different team.

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Caleb gets to slay some bums next week. I hope, anyway. I also hope Penix doesn't start for the Falcons.

Airman is not "all". And "most desjred" job usually is equivalent to Tallest Mention in terms of available coaching positions.

Had Poles whacked "Da Flus" after last season and traded the pick, it would have been. Not now though. Whatever coaching hire they make at this point will be geared heavily towards unlocking a QB that isn't very good. Which means that guy will be whacked in a few years and then they will look for a another sad sap that will tasked with this most monumental of jobs.

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Yeah, Fields could have gotten another coach fired!!!

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I just don’t see how those teams are the Bears, Jets, Raiders and their miserable structures from the very top down. But there are only so many of these jobs.

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In my Era of Fandom Bears fans NEVER took the advice of Packers fans about anything Bears related. This should have been the surest sign that they were going to suck this year.

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The thing that was true about the bears before this year is that they didn't meddle with the coach's plan. They usually gave more time and autonomy than warranted

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How many coaches have they fired recently?

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Your generation lasted at best about 8 years.

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Packers sucked for about the first 25 years of my existence. That's why I don't "rah rah" about the rivalry. Bears were set up nicely to get at the division but Poles screwed that up by listening to non Bear fans like you who said he should draft Caleb.

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I believe you will see I was a big Daniels fan, Nas didn’t like that at all.

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Chicago sports radio fails miserably when teams are in tank mode like the Bears. Giving reasons and formulas how they can win when most everybody wants them to lose.

This is the same point I made on Fields. A QB like Williams should throw 15+ interceptions his first year. He’s got to understand what open in the NFL looks like, the only way to do that is take some chances, you’ll get burned on some of them.

Williams hasn’t thrown a pick since the Jaguars game. That’s unacceptable. He’s not fully developing as a QB as a result. On yeah, also he doesn’t have one completion this year for more than 50 yards.

That’s the problem when you have a coaching staff that is coaching for their jobs (or was). Having a QB out there turning the ball over a bunch isn’t going to help win games, but it probably helps his development. Hard to as a coaching staff to risk their jobs on a 5 win season and sell that they developed the QB as a reason to keep drawing a paycheck. There is no alignment between a staff coaching for their jobs and developing a QB in his rookie year.

but that would take away from the board dummies' only argument...td/int ratio!

Interceptions thrown in blow outs and/or the 2nd half don’t count.

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I think some of the issue these coaches are auditioning for their next jobs and still calling plays in a way that can keep things close.

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On the flipside though, a lot of high interception QBs early on never learn how to not do it. Jameis Winston is a great example.

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Agreed, but Winston will end up with a better NFL career than all but probably 2% of QBs who ever suit up in the NFL.

You’re not going to develop an NFL difference maker QB having him throw 5 yard outs and screen passes his whole career.

Or could be the point shaving.

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I’d say that interceptions thrown in your rookie year when you are trying to learn what the NFL game looks like don’t count. We’re trying to develop (or should be trying to develop) stability at the position for the next 10+ years, not trying to win 9 games and sneak into the playoffs to get skull fucked by the Lions in the Wild Card round.

If that happens as a byproduct of Williams winging the ball all around the field to receivers that might, or might not be covered all the more entertaining. But Williams is going to end his rookie year with (likely) fewer than 25 TDs and fewer than 10 interceptions. He’ll maybe have one completion for more than 50 yards, but I wouldn’t bet on it. He’s made strides but the whole thing about growing pains is you want to get them out of the way all at once. At this point he probably still isn’t confident as to what an NFL open receiver looks like.

Reminds me of Tom Moore talking to a young Payton Manning (not for nothing, 28 picks as a rookie). Moore shows Manning film of Manning missing several open receivers in a game.

Manning: “Coach, those guys weren’t open.”

Moore: “Son that’s as open as they get at this level.”

Great time to point out that "Generational Caleb" has yet to throw a TD pass this season when the game was tied.

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that's an incredibly important ratio for any qb

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He's also about to be on his fourth NFL team given it sounds like he was benched this week.

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CJ Stroud had five interceptions last year
Daniels has six
justin herbert had 10
kyler murray had 12
dak prescott had 4

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This assumes he throws interceptions left and right going downfield more. Look, I’m not saying they should advise him to throw picks -I’m saying they should tell him to relax and not worry so much if he does. To me it seems obvious he’d rather get hit or wait for the perfect play (which has resulted in many of those hits) rather than take a few chances with the ball.


That attitude was much more understandable when there was more to play for, but now there isn’t anything outside of some development.


I agree with you that despite all the Bears chaos around him he’s had a solid rookie year, but I’d still like to see him do a bit more. Especially so now that the seasons a wrap. Obviously he can take care of the ball. There’s only a few games left, I don’t see how him going out and playing loose while making the occasional mistake is going to harm him at this point.


Let’s have some fun and see if we can play spoiler these last few games.

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