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Through 14 games:

QB1: 63% CMP% 2972 YDS 20 TD 11 INT 6.4 Y/A 212 Y/G 86.1 RTG

QB2: 61% CMP% 2937 YDS 17 TD 5 INT 6.3 Y/A 209 Y/G 87.7 RTG

Maybe grandpa needs a new TV for Christmas because those stat lines are nearly identical. If you care about turnovers one is actually slightly better.


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Those stats are on your laptop. TVs connected to Sunday Ticket are in the living room.

Oops, Caleb takes a sack. Loss of 23. So close!!!! Damn near made a miraculous comeback against the prevent defense!


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Through 14 games:

QB1: 63% CMP% 2972 YDS 20 TD 11 INT 6.4 Y/A 212 Y/G 86.1 RTG

QB2: 61% CMP% 2937 YDS 17 TD 5 INT 6.3 Y/A 209 Y/G 87.7 RTG

Maybe grandpa needs a new TV for Christmas because those stat lines are nearly identical. If you care about turnovers one is actually slightly better.

You forgot to subtract the good stats that don’t count and add in the hypothetically bad things that could’ve happened but didn’t.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Through 14 games:

QB1: 63% CMP% 2972 YDS 20 TD 11 INT 6.4 Y/A 212 Y/G 86.1 RTG

QB2: 61% CMP% 2937 YDS 17 TD 5 INT 6.3 Y/A 209 Y/G 87.7 RTG

Maybe grandpa needs a new TV for Christmas because those stat lines are nearly identical. If you care about turnovers one is actually slightly better.


Sure "there no difference" Caddyshack. Except when one throws TDs that helps his team win games while the other one throws his during garbage time in order to trick Golf Cart riding dolts like you who pretend to know sports.

Bo Nix TD #s when his team is down 2 scores or more?
3 of 20

Caleb Williams Td #s when his team is down 2 scores or more
10 of 17

Can you say "Garbage Time Stats" :lol: :lol:

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Nardi wrote:
Those stats are on your laptop. TVs connected to Sunday Ticket are in the living room.

Oops, Caleb takes a sack. Loss of 23. So close!!!! Damn near made a miraculous comeback against the prevent defense!

Oh boy, we're entering the "Games are played on the FIELD, nerd, not your laptop, and I WATCH those games from my COUCH while I BET on them LIKE A MAN" zone of the late aughts. Don't worry grandpa, I'm not trying to talk about VORP.

But you did touch on something I'd like to explore a little more: If Caleb Williams is "only" throwing for touchdowns (remember when he wasn't throwing enough of them?) against a "prevent defense", what exactly are the defenses trying to prevent?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Those stats are on your laptop. TVs connected to Sunday Ticket are in the living room.

Oops, Caleb takes a sack. Loss of 23. So close!!!! Damn near made a miraculous comeback against the prevent defense!

Oh boy, we're entering the "Games are played on the FIELD, nerd, not your laptop, and I WATCH those games from my COUCH while I BET on them LIKE A MAN" zone of the late aughts. Don't worry grandpa, I'm not trying to talk about VORP.

But you did touch on something I'd like to explore a little more: If Caleb Williams is "only" throwing for touchdowns (remember when he wasn't throwing enough of them?) against a "prevent defense", what exactly are the defenses trying to prevent?

More heckling from the cheap seats.

Trying to prevent the clock stopping. Are you a foreigner or something?


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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Through 14 games:

QB1: 63% CMP% 2972 YDS 20 TD 11 INT 6.4 Y/A 212 Y/G 86.1 RTG

QB2: 61% CMP% 2937 YDS 17 TD 5 INT 6.3 Y/A 209 Y/G 87.7 RTG

Maybe grandpa needs a new TV for Christmas because those stat lines are nearly identical. If you care about turnovers one is actually slightly better.


Sure "there no difference" Caddyshack. Except when one throws TDs that helps his team win games while the other one throws his during garbage time in order to trick Golf Cart riding dolts like you who pretend to know sports.

Bo Nix TD #s when his team is down 2 scores or more?
3 of 20

Caleb Williams Td #s when his team is down 2 scores or more
10 of 17

Can you say "Garbage Time Stats" :lol: :lol:

Bo Nix is rarely playing from behind because his team has arguably one of the best defenses in the NFL at preventing opponents from gaining yards and scoring. The Bears are one of the worst defenses in the league. And that's on top of the fact that a QB has about as much influence on how many points the other team scores as the punter, maybe even less.


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Nardi wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Those stats are on your laptop. TVs connected to Sunday Ticket are in the living room.

Oops, Caleb takes a sack. Loss of 23. So close!!!! Damn near made a miraculous comeback against the prevent defense!

Oh boy, we're entering the "Games are played on the FIELD, nerd, not your laptop, and I WATCH those games from my COUCH while I BET on them LIKE A MAN" zone of the late aughts. Don't worry grandpa, I'm not trying to talk about VORP.

But you did touch on something I'd like to explore a little more: If Caleb Williams is "only" throwing for touchdowns (remember when he wasn't throwing enough of them?) against a "prevent defense", what exactly are the defenses trying to prevent?

More heckling from the cheap seats.

Trying to prevent the clock stopping. Are you a foreigner or something?

:lol: I have Sunday Ticket too, big spender, so avert your gaze from my wallet.

So teams are letting Caleb Williams bring his team within one score on purpose? And that's a knock on Caleb, how?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Through 14 games:

QB1: 63% CMP% 2972 YDS 20 TD 11 INT 6.4 Y/A 212 Y/G 86.1 RTG

QB2: 61% CMP% 2937 YDS 17 TD 5 INT 6.3 Y/A 209 Y/G 87.7 RTG

Maybe grandpa needs a new TV for Christmas because those stat lines are nearly identical. If you care about turnovers one is actually slightly better.


Sure "there no difference" Caddyshack. Except when one throws TDs that helps his team win games while the other one throws his during garbage time in order to trick Golf Cart riding dolts like you who pretend to know sports.

Bo Nix TD #s when his team is down 2 scores or more?
3 of 20

Caleb Williams Td #s when his team is down 2 scores or more
10 of 17

Can you say "Garbage Time Stats" :lol: :lol:

Bo Nix is rarely playing from behind because his team has arguably one of the best defenses in the NFL at preventing opponents from gaining yards and scoring. The Bears are one of the worst defenses in the league. And that's on top of the fact that a QB has about as much influence on how many points the other team scores as the punter, maybe even less.


Hey Caddy, the Overwhelming Reason that the Bears are always "playing" from behind is "Generational Talent" Caleb sucks ass in the first half of NEARLY every game. However you play golf thus you are clueless when it comes to "Tendencies".
Caleb has 12 games out of 14 in which he has failed to throw a Touchdown in the first half.

In 8 games out of 14 the Bears offense has scored 3 points or less. In 5 they were scoreless.

Bo Nix led team avg 24 points per game. 16 after 3 Quarters
Caleb Williams 19 per game and 11 after 3 Quarters.

It's not difficult to see why one is going to the playoffs while the other is about to draft top 5 Tee Time.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Those stats are on your laptop. TVs connected to Sunday Ticket are in the living room.

Oops, Caleb takes a sack. Loss of 23. So close!!!! Damn near made a miraculous comeback against the prevent defense!

Oh boy, we're entering the "Games are played on the FIELD, nerd, not your laptop, and I WATCH those games from my COUCH while I BET on them LIKE A MAN" zone of the late aughts. Don't worry grandpa, I'm not trying to talk about VORP.

But you did touch on something I'd like to explore a little more: If Caleb Williams is "only" throwing for touchdowns (remember when he wasn't throwing enough of them?) against a "prevent defense", what exactly are the defenses trying to prevent?

More heckling from the cheap seats.

Trying to prevent the clock stopping. Are you a foreigner or something?

:lol: I have Sunday Ticket too, big spender, so avert your gaze from my wallet.

So teams are letting Caleb Williams bring his team within one score on purpose? And that's a knock on Caleb, how?


Because if he were any good then his team wouldn't always have to play from 2 scores or more behind Numbnuts. The intricacies and nuances of the game always seem to be lost on Golf Cart Riding Caddyshack

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Through 14 games:

QB1: 63% CMP% 2972 YDS 20 TD 11 INT 6.4 Y/A 212 Y/G 86.1 RTG

QB2: 61% CMP% 2937 YDS 17 TD 5 INT 6.3 Y/A 209 Y/G 87.7 RTG

Maybe grandpa needs a new TV for Christmas because those stat lines are nearly identical. If you care about turnovers one is actually slightly better.


Sure "there no difference" Caddyshack. Except when one throws TDs that helps his team win games while the other one throws his during garbage time in order to trick Golf Cart riding dolts like you who pretend to know sports.

Bo Nix TD #s when his team is down 2 scores or more?
3 of 20

Caleb Williams Td #s when his team is down 2 scores or more
10 of 17

Can you say "Garbage Time Stats" :lol: :lol:

Bo Nix is rarely playing from behind because his team has arguably one of the best defenses in the NFL at preventing opponents from gaining yards and scoring. The Bears are one of the worst defenses in the league. And that's on top of the fact that a QB has about as much influence on how many points the other team scores as the punter, maybe even less.


Hey Caddy, the Overwhelming Reason that the Bears are always "playing" from behind is "Generational Talent" Caleb sucks ass in the first half of NEARLY every game. However you play golf thus you are clueless when it comes to "Tendencies".
Caleb has 12 games out of 14 in which he has failed to throw a Touchdown in the first half.

In 8 games out of 14 the Bears offense has scored 3 points or less. In 5 they were scoreless.

Bo Nix led team avg 24 points per game. 16 after 3 Quarters
Caleb Williams 19 per game and 11 after 3 Quarters.

It's not difficult to see why one is going to the playoffs while the other is about to draft top 5 Tee Time.

Yes, a team's defense has no impact on how many opponent scores a QB has to overcome, how silly of me. Thank goodness for the football acumen of Radio.


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Williams has turnstiles on the offensive line. There was a play on Monday night that was a repeat of the sack from the end of the Lions game, where a guy just ran right at him uncontested. Of course that informs how bad the Bears are in the first half: if other defenses want to go hard, there's no one to stop them. If they take their foot off the gas up 17 or so, then Williams can get the Bears back into it.

I don't know if a good offensive line would transform him into the generational quarterback he was sold as, but it might keep him from getting sacked eight or nine times a game.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Through 14 games:

QB1: 63% CMP% 2972 YDS 20 TD 11 INT 6.4 Y/A 212 Y/G 86.1 RTG

QB2: 61% CMP% 2937 YDS 17 TD 5 INT 6.3 Y/A 209 Y/G 87.7 RTG

Maybe grandpa needs a new TV for Christmas because those stat lines are nearly identical. If you care about turnovers one is actually slightly better.


Sure "there no difference" Caddyshack. Except when one throws TDs that helps his team win games while the other one throws his during garbage time in order to trick Golf Cart riding dolts like you who pretend to know sports.

Bo Nix TD #s when his team is down 2 scores or more?
3 of 20

Caleb Williams Td #s when his team is down 2 scores or more
10 of 17

Can you say "Garbage Time Stats" :lol: :lol:

Bo Nix is rarely playing from behind because his team has arguably one of the best defenses in the NFL at preventing opponents from gaining yards and scoring. The Bears are one of the worst defenses in the league. And that's on top of the fact that a QB has about as much influence on how many points the other team scores as the punter, maybe even less.


Hey Caddy, the Overwhelming Reason that the Bears are always "playing" from behind is "Generational Talent" Caleb sucks ass in the first half of NEARLY every game. However you play golf thus you are clueless when it comes to "Tendencies".
Caleb has 12 games out of 14 in which he has failed to throw a Touchdown in the first half.

In 8 games out of 14 the Bears offense has scored 3 points or less. In 5 they were scoreless.

Bo Nix led team avg 24 points per game. 16 after 3 Quarters
Caleb Williams 19 per game and 11 after 3 Quarters.

It's not difficult to see why one is going to the playoffs while the other is about to draft top 5 Tee Time.

Yes, a team's defense has no impact on how many opponent scores a QB has to overcome, how silly of me. Thank goodness for the football acumen of Radio.


Caddy with more rhetorical "Counters" to things that were never actually stated. Hartgrove "awaits"

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I can't help it that your argument that Bo Nix is responsible for not playing from behind moreso than his league-leading defense is just patently unserious.


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I can't help it that your argument that Bo Nix is responsible for not playing from behind moreso than his league-leading defense is just patently unserious.


Tough to play from in front when you've tallied a 3 points or less by Halftime in 8 out 14 games Caddy. What Statisticians know to be a "Nearly Impossible Mathematical Improbability" :lol: :lol:

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Those stats are on your laptop. TVs connected to Sunday Ticket are in the living room.

Oops, Caleb takes a sack. Loss of 23. So close!!!! Damn near made a miraculous comeback against the prevent defense!

Oh boy, we're entering the "Games are played on the FIELD, nerd, not your laptop, and I WATCH those games from my COUCH while I BET on them LIKE A MAN" zone of the late aughts. Don't worry grandpa, I'm not trying to talk about VORP.

But you did touch on something I'd like to explore a little more: If Caleb Williams is "only" throwing for touchdowns (remember when he wasn't throwing enough of them?) against a "prevent defense", what exactly are the defenses trying to prevent?

More heckling from the cheap seats.

Trying to prevent the clock stopping. Are you a foreigner or something?

:lol: I have Sunday Ticket too, big spender, so avert your gaze from my wallet.

So teams are letting Caleb Williams bring his team within one score on purpose? And that's a knock on Caleb, how?

I s'pose you don't have much to do either except watch Bo Nix, Jaden Daniels, and Drake Maye. So I will at least contemplate your thoughts, however bad they are.

Yes, YES. They ARE letting him bring back his team back on purpose. Thanks for the insight, RickySlade. I couldn't have put it better myself.


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The Bears are one of the worst defenses in the league.


I just couldn't allow the Golf Cart Riding Doofus to get away with this one. As "WE' well know, he is prone to say things that are patently untrue

Bears currently with the 11 th Best Defense in the league in terms of points allowed

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:lol:


:lol: :lol:

Denver Scoring Offense in 2024 24 ppg
Denver Scoring Offense in 2023 21.0 ppg

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/s ... ntsPerGame

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Bears are one of the worst defenses in the league.


I just couldn't allow the Golf Cart Riding Doofus to get away with this one. As "WE' well know, he is prone to say things that are patently untrue

Bears currently with the 11 th Best Defense in the league in terms of points allowed

Aw, Radio, the fact that you've been allowed to think you're an authority on anything is touching, it truly is. But here are some other categories and how close the Bears are to the bottom of the league:

Yards/Play (tied 2nd-worst), Net Passing Yards per Attempt (tied 2nd-worst), Rushing Yards per Attempt (tied 6th-worst). They are the epitome of a "bend, don't break" defense: Not giving up TDs in bunches but woefully ineffective at stifling opposing offenses. This affects clock management, and the number of offensive possessions.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Bears are one of the worst defenses in the league.


I just couldn't allow the Golf Cart Riding Doofus to get away with this one. As "WE' well know, he is prone to say things that are patently untrue

Bears currently with the 11 th Best Defense in the league in terms of points allowed

Aw, Radio, the fact that you've been allowed to think you're an authority on anything is touching, it truly is. But here are some other categories and how close the Bears are to the bottom of the league:

Yards/Play (tied 2nd-worst), Net Passing Yards per Attempt (tied 2nd-worst), Rushing Yards per Attempt (tied 6th-worst). They are the epitome of a "bend, don't break" defense: Not giving up TDs in bunches but woefully ineffective at stifling opposing offenses. This affects clock management, and the number of offensive possessions.


As the "Archduke of Asinine Arguments" tries in earnest to make the case that Yards allowed is a more valuable stat than points allowed.

Just when you think that no one is that stupid around here to make certain arguments, he always chimes in at some point to show you that there is. :lol: :lol:

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Broncos transformation under Bo Nix

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:lol:


:lol: :lol:

Denver Scoring Offense in 2024 24 ppg
Denver Scoring Offense in 2023 21.0 ppg

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/s ... ntsPerGame

Does that 24 ppg figure include the 5 combined TDs scored by Denver's defense? How is Bo Nix responsible for those?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Broncos transformation under Bo Nix

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:lol:


:lol: :lol:

Denver Scoring Offense in 2024 24 ppg
Denver Scoring Offense in 2023 21.0 ppg

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/s ... ntsPerGame

Does that 24 ppg figure include the 5 combined TDs scored by Denver's defense? How is Bo Nix responsible for those?


"Just Asking Questions" Hey Archduke how about providing an explanation as to why YARDS ALLOWED supersedes POINTS ALLOWED in terms of overall value with respect to Defense? Just Asking Questions

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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FavreFan wrote:
Broncos transformation under Bo Nix

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:lol:


:lol: :lol:

Denver Scoring Offense in 2024 24 ppg
Denver Scoring Offense in 2023 21.0 ppg

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/s ... ntsPerGame

Those are team PPG numbers chief. I posted the offense ppg numbers, they are correct.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Broncos transformation under Bo Nix

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:lol:


:lol: :lol:

Denver Scoring Offense in 2024 24 ppg
Denver Scoring Offense in 2023 21.0 ppg

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/s ... ntsPerGame

Does that 24 ppg figure include the 5 combined TDs scored by Denver's defense? How is Bo Nix responsible for those?


"Just Asking Questions" Hey Archduke how about providing an explanation as to why YARDS ALLOWED supersedes POINTS ALLOWED in terms of overall value with respect to Defense? Just Asking Questions

Well if the figure you posted as "Scoring Offense in 2024" included TDs scored by the defense via INTs and recovered fumbles, that wouldn't be accurate as "scoring offense", would it?


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Pretty wild how this turned from Caleb being the 4th best rookie QB so far to somehow that I've said "Bo Nix is GREAT" just because Nix is the 3rd best rookie QB and has definitively outplayed Caleb so far. That's it. It's all I've said. I haven't given up on Williams. He's got to the middle of next year to make good. He's played poorly this year but Sunday is another day. I hope for 30 offensively. I don't see why not. They're playing Detroit's practice squad. Is there any reason why he can't put up 30?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 5:06 pm 
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Atleast we established the Broncos offense is the same under Bo Nix. Next topic.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Through 14 games:

QB1: 63% CMP% 2972 YDS 20 TD 11 INT 6.4 Y/A 212 Y/G 86.1 RTG

QB2: 61% CMP% 2937 YDS 17 TD 5 INT 6.3 Y/A 209 Y/G 87.7 RTG

Maybe grandpa needs a new TV for Christmas because those stat lines are nearly identical. If you care about turnovers one is actually slightly better.

You forgot to subtract the good stats that don’t count and add in the hypothetically bad things that could’ve happened but didn’t.


We can't wait for your Drunk History episode on Caleb Williams' rookie season.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Broncos transformation under Bo Nix

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Denver Scoring Offense in 2024 24 ppg
Denver Scoring Offense in 2023 21.0 ppg

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/s ... ntsPerGame

Does that 24 ppg figure include the 5 combined TDs scored by Denver's defense? How is Bo Nix responsible for those?


"Just Asking Questions" Hey Archduke how about providing an explanation as to why YARDS ALLOWED supersedes POINTS ALLOWED in terms of overall value with respect to Defense? Just Asking Questions

Well if the figure you posted as "Scoring Offense in 2024" included TDs scored by the defense via INTs and recovered fumbles, that wouldn't be accurate as "scoring offense", would it?

Archduke Of Asinine Arguments is now on the run after repeatedly making yet another of his stupid ass Arguments :lol: :lol:

How can someone be so stupid?

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