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Ignore that talk about Nix's 2nd half. That sometimes happens with the 6th QBs chosen. Peyton Manning sucked his rookie year last century.

Most importantly, did you win your bet on the Broncos?

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Imagine you combined Bo Nix and Caleb into one guy. Nix in the first half; Caleb in the second. Now there’s a qb.

Granted the second half doesn’t count so you’d really just land back at having Bo, but still.

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Dr. Style is strangely not pointing out that you can't really compare Williams as a rookie and Nix as a rookie because of the massive age difference.

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Ignore that talk about Nix's 2nd half. That sometimes happens with the 6th QBs chosen. Peyton Manning sucked his rookie year last century.

Most importantly, did you win your bet on the Broncos?

I didn't bet. Apparently, I've bet on the Broncos 5 times. 3-2. What are you researching today while working at home?


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Nardi wrote:
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Ignore that talk about Nix's 2nd half. That sometimes happens with the 6th QBs chosen. Peyton Manning sucked his rookie year last century.

Most importantly, did you win your bet on the Broncos?

I didn't bet. Apparently, I've bet on the Broncos 5 times. 3-2. What are you researching today while working at home?
Please stop referencing that I work from home. It's very embarrassing to me to not have to go into an office for 8 hours.

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Dr. Style is strangely not pointing out that you can't really compare Williams as a rookie and Nix as a rookie because of the massive age difference.

True, stats tell the story. Nix had a nice game my laptop tells me. If only the 7% onside kick success rate had worked out, It'd be EVEN BETTER.


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Coaching matters. Not sure why that’s not getting much play in this recent conversation. Unless everyone here thinks Sean Payton is just some guy

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Ignore that talk about Nix's 2nd half. That sometimes happens with the 6th QBs chosen. Peyton Manning sucked his rookie year last century.

Most importantly, did you win your bet on the Broncos?

I didn't bet. Apparently, I've bet on the Broncos 5 times. 3-2. What are you researching today while working at home?
Please stop referencing that I work from home. It's very embarrassing to me to not have to go into an office for 8 hours.

I hear you. My bets are also embarrassing.


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Dr. Style is strangely not pointing out that you can't really compare Williams as a rookie and Nix as a rookie because of the massive age difference.


It's actually one of the main reasons I haven't touted ol Bo this season. Though it is fair to note that the "much younger" Drake Maye has also outplayed Caleb this season as well. Particularly when you factor in their respective ages McCarver

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Coaching matters. Not sure why that’s not getting much play in this recent conversation. Unless everyone here thinks Sean Payton is just some guy

Because it's of zero consequence in context to the conversation. It's a "If your aunt had balls" argument. Besides, it's been decided. Neck and neck. Despite Nix shitting the bed last night, the stats say he had a nice game. And that's all that matters.


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Brick wrote:
Dr. Style is strangely not pointing out that you can't really compare Williams as a rookie and Nix as a rookie because of the massive age difference.


It's actually one of the main reasons I haven't touted ol Bo this season. Though it is fair to note that the "much younger" Drake Maye has also outplayed Caleb this season as well. Particularly when you factor in their respective ages McCarver

Drake Maye is 2-7 as a starter, and his only wins are against teams that are currently 8-20.

Am I doing this right?

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You can now add habitual Caleb apologist Chase Daniel to the ever growing lost of people that believe that ol Caleb has essentially sucked ass this year.

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Brick wrote:
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Dr. Style is strangely not pointing out that you can't really compare Williams as a rookie and Nix as a rookie because of the massive age difference.


It's actually one of the main reasons I haven't touted ol Bo this season. Though it is fair to note that the "much younger" Drake Maye has also outplayed Caleb this season as well. Particularly when you factor in their respective ages McCarver

Drake Maye is 2-7 as a starter, and his only wins are against teams that are currently 8-20.

Am I doing this right?


No because his winning % is still greater than "Generational Talent Caleb", plus he outplayed him head to head, plus his team blew out Caleb when they faced off head to head, he's younger and he has played in fewer games than Generational Talent Caleb.

By all accounts he should be much worse if you are to use the just a rookie excuse which you always reserve for Caleb McCarver :lol: :lol:

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
No because his winning % is still greater than "Generational Talent Caleb", plus he outplayed him head to head, plus his team blew out Caleb when they faced off head to head, he's younger and he has played in fewer games than Generational Talent Caleb.
I think you need to redo the math on that one. I'm sure you'll say that winner % doesn't matter once you see your mistake.

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By all accounts he should be much worse if you are to use the just a rookie excuse which you always reserve for Caleb McCarver :lol: :lol:
I've always thought Maye would also be a good NFL QB.

But, I'll repeat that rookie stats don't really matter that much.

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No because his winning % is still greater than "Generational Talent Caleb", plus he outplayed him head to head, plus his team blew out Caleb when they faced off head to head, he's younger and he has played in fewer games than Generational Talent Caleb.
I think you need to redo the math on that one. I'm sure you'll say that winner % doesn't matter once you see your mistake.

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By all accounts he should be much worse if you are to use the just a rookie excuse which you always reserve for Caleb McCarver :lol: :lol:
I've always thought Maye would also be a good NFL QB.

But, I'll repeat that rookie stats don't really matter that much.

The fact remains Caleb has played poorly and just saying that EVEN WITH A CAVEAT that he's a rookie triggers oh so so many. Even you, who had to go do research.

It all blew up last night. Bo Nix shit the bed yet his stats say otherwise. It couldn't have worked out better.


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No because his winning % is still greater than "Generational Talent Caleb", plus he outplayed him head to head, plus his team blew out Caleb when they faced off head to head, he's younger and he has played in fewer games than Generational Talent Caleb.
I think you need to redo the math on that one. I'm sure you'll say that winner % doesn't matter once you see your mistake.

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By all accounts he should be much worse if you are to use the just a rookie excuse which you always reserve for Caleb McCarver :lol: :lol:
I've always thought Maye would also be a good NFL QB.

But, I'll repeat that rookie stats don't really matter that much.

The fact remains Caleb has played poorly and just saying that EVEN WITH A CAVEAT that he's a rookie triggers oh so so many. Even you, who had to go do research.

It all blew up last night. Bo Nix shit the bed yet his stats say otherwise. It couldn't have worked out better.

Now, now…your mistake wasn’t saying he’s played poorly at times. Everybody has said that.

You went with the “Bo Nix is clearly better” argument and then got a touch miffed when there was pushback.

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The fact remains Caleb has played poorly and just saying that EVEN WITH A CAVEAT that he's a rookie triggers oh so so many. Even you, who had to go do research.
It's not a fact he's played poorly. He's been up and down as a rookie like most are. He's been really bad at times though. That's what some people want to focus on.

The odds are very high that the abysmal performances disappear more than the truly great performances disappear as he goes into year 2.

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No because his winning % is still greater than "Generational Talent Caleb", plus he outplayed him head to head, plus his team blew out Caleb when they faced off head to head, he's younger and he has played in fewer games than Generational Talent Caleb.
I think you need to redo the math on that one. I'm sure you'll say that winner % doesn't matter once you see your mistake.

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By all accounts he should be much worse if you are to use the just a rookie excuse which you always reserve for Caleb McCarver :lol: :lol:
I've always thought Maye would also be a good NFL QB.

But, I'll repeat that rookie stats don't really matter that much.

The fact remains Caleb has played poorly and just saying that EVEN WITH A CAVEAT that he's a rookie triggers oh so so many. Even you, who had to go do research.

It all blew up last night. Bo Nix shit the bed yet his stats say otherwise. It couldn't have worked out better.

Now, now…your mistake wasn’t saying he’s played poorly at times. Everybody has said that.

You went with the “Bo Nix is clearly better” argument and then got a touch miffed when there was pushback.

Well, when Caleb has mostly played poorly and Nix hasn't mostly played poorly, that's where I get my "definitively better so far". Only when I can get even a tiny bit of agreement will I open it up to the coaching. It's pretty certain that Nix is "definitively better so far" due to that aspect.

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Brick wrote:
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The fact remains Caleb has played poorly and just saying that EVEN WITH A CAVEAT that he's a rookie triggers oh so so many. Even you, who had to go do research.
It's not a fact he's played poorly. He's been up and down as a rookie like most are. He's been really bad at times though. That's what some people want to focus on.

The odds are very high that the abysmal performances disappear more than the truly great performances disappear as he goes into year 2.


Brick the "He's Just A Rookie Thus We Expected This" only started being used once "Generational Talent" Caleb began shitting the Bed with weak ass numbers and an 8 game losing streak.

Just like Well "WE Expected Justin To Be Betfer as a 4th Year Player being compared to a rookie"

Fact is none of the gurus here actually stated any of this until Caleb began playing like shit. Before that MANY were Uber excited to get the "Next Patrick Mahomes". It's also clear that Bear management believed the exact same thing. At no point did you or any of "Caleb's Flock" around here disagree with them in their assessment. Lord knows that you had ample opportunity to do so.

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He's been really bad at times though.

No he's been mostly bad. Particularly when you exclude his 2 Bumslaying games.

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No because his winning % is still greater than "Generational Talent Caleb", plus he outplayed him head to head, plus his team blew out Caleb when they faced off head to head, he's younger and he has played in fewer games than Generational Talent Caleb.
I think you need to redo the math on that one. I'm sure you'll say that winner % doesn't matter once you see your mistake.

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
By all accounts he should be much worse if you are to use the just a rookie excuse which you always reserve for Caleb McCarver :lol: :lol:
I've always thought Maye would also be a good NFL QB.

But, I'll repeat that rookie stats don't really matter that much.

The fact remains Caleb has played poorly and just saying that EVEN WITH A CAVEAT that he's a rookie triggers oh so so many. Even you, who had to go do research.

It all blew up last night. Bo Nix shit the bed yet his stats say otherwise. It couldn't have worked out better.

Now, now…your mistake wasn’t saying he’s played poorly at times. Everybody has said that.

You went with the “Bo Nix is clearly better” argument and then got a touch miffed when there was pushback.

Well, when Caleb has mostly played poorly and Nix hasn't mostly played poorly, that's where I get my "definitively better so far". Only when I can get even a tiny bit of agreement will I open it up to the coaching. It's pretty certain that Nix is "definitively better so far" due to that aspect.

Until then, fuck off.

Yikes. Maybe I underestimated the level of miffedness.

I haven’t sat through all of Bo’s games like everybody else. I’ve seen him play in a couple times and he’s been fine. That his stats are similar/slightly worse than Caleb’s looks about right from the eye test.

He’s better than I thought he’d be, I’ll give him that.

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No because his winning % is still greater than "Generational Talent Caleb", plus he outplayed him head to head, plus his team blew out Caleb when they faced off head to head, he's younger and he has played in fewer games than Generational Talent Caleb.
I think you need to redo the math on that one. I'm sure you'll say that winner % doesn't matter once you see your mistake.

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
By all accounts he should be much worse if you are to use the just a rookie excuse which you always reserve for Caleb McCarver :lol: :lol:
I've always thought Maye would also be a good NFL QB.

But, I'll repeat that rookie stats don't really matter that much.

The fact remains Caleb has played poorly and just saying that EVEN WITH A CAVEAT that he's a rookie triggers oh so so many. Even you, who had to go do research.

It all blew up last night. Bo Nix shit the bed yet his stats say otherwise. It couldn't have worked out better.

Now, now…your mistake wasn’t saying he’s played poorly at times. Everybody has said that.

You went with the “Bo Nix is clearly better” argument and then got a touch miffed when there was pushback.

Well, when Caleb has mostly played poorly and Nix hasn't mostly played poorly, that's where I get my "definitively better so far". Only when I can get even a tiny bit of agreement will I open it up to the coaching. It's pretty certain that Nix is "definitively better so far" due to that aspect.

Until then, fuck off.

Yikes. Maybe I underestimated the level of miffedness.

I haven’t sat through all of Bo’s games like everybody else. I’ve seen him play in a couple times and he’s been fine. That his stats are similar/slightly worse than Caleb’s looks about right from the eye test.

He’s better than I thought he’d be, I’ll give him that.

I'm not miffed, I laughed at this good point that you accidentally made:
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See, that’s a good rookie. Compiles numbers in the first half and shits down his leg in the second half, when the stats don’t count. Missed passes, bad throws, bad sacks (and members of Bad Sax)…not to be found in the first half when playing ahead, which of course, is the only time QB play matters.


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See, that’s a good rookie. Compiles numbers in the first half and shits down his leg in the second half, when the stats don’t count. Missed passes, bad throws, bad sacks (and members of Bad Sax)…not to be found in the first half when playing ahead, which of course, is the only time QB play matters.

A side note is that Justin Herbert sucks. Let his team go down 10+ in the first half like a worthless piece of shit.

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One Rookie "generating offense" when the games are over is hardly the same as a guy that "generates offense" when games are actually still competitive.

Which is the main reason that Denver is headed to the playoffs while the Bears are headed towards a Top 5 pick

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Even Caleb can't fuck up this game Sunday. I expect big numbers.


I expect them to blame coaching, O Line, His Receiving Corps, South Lot Tailgating Attendent, And The Honey Bears when he doesn't.

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See, that’s a good rookie. Compiles numbers in the first half and shits down his leg in the second half, when the stats don’t count. Missed passes, bad throws, bad sacks (and members of Bad Sax)…not to be found in the first half when playing ahead, which of course, is the only time QB play matters.

A side note is that Justin Herbert sucks. Let his team go down 10+ in the first half like a worthless piece of shit.

I get the sarcasm, but a qb playing well enough in the 2nd half to actually win a game is a bit of a differentiator.


Caleb has played well in games in the 2nd half to win the game but coaching has failed him multiple times. Has he been perfect, no. Still holds on to the ball too long at times and doesn't hit his read quickly. Deep ball accuracy/timing has to get better but the players and coaches have not helped. Tired of hearing how he has an all-star WR room. Moore seems to have a membership with the Field's cult and does not run the same for Caleb as he did for Justin. Allen has dropped multiple passes all year and at key times in the game. Rome also has dropped a lot of passes and is just a rookie. Kmet has been not used and when they do use him he drops the ball. The run game sucks.

So, no Caleb doesn't have this elite offense that everyone was hoping for. You could argue that the offense last year was better with Getzy calling plays and Moore actually trying. Defense was also better last year.

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Even Caleb can't fuck up this game Sunday. I expect big numbers.


I expect them to blame coaching, O Line, His Receiving Corps, South Lot Tailgating Attendent, And The Honey Bears when he doesn't.


Like you did last year with Fields? You even linked to a website to show how bad the Bears O Line was for Fields. Who you crappin.

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