The Doctor Of Caveats.

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It's also hilarious that he happened to choose the Bears offense of the last 8 games. I wonder why 9 and 10 aren't included.

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So now you are willing to say that 3rd and 4th Quarters don't count? OK let's do it.

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You’re just trying to shoehorn the Washington game in, while ignoring the Vikings game for some reason. He got injured while trailing in the 2nd half so whatever he did the rest of the way wouldn’t have counted anyway.

Scroll back through the posts and you’ll see I wanted Fields to do well. You on the other hand, have an irrational hatred of the Bears QB because you’re so deep into cult life you can’t see straight.

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We can count all of them and Fields still wins. The Bears offense was decidedly better with him as QB even when they tanked. At some point all of your trolling efforts just fall flat.

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Hold on for a second. Aren't you the same dude who repeatedly claims that it's wrong to ONLY count half the game when it comes to Caleb's4th QTR garbage time numbers? ONLY to now count less than HALF THE GAME? WYC

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Does Chase Daniel hate him too? Because just the other day he flipped on him and said that he hasn't played very well this year.
I have to question the sanity of anyone who bucks for a dude that has played as bad as he has. I don't "hate" the guy. I just don't think he's particularly good and never bought into the hype. So far I've been correct in that assumption.

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They don't refuse to chuck it. They just make sure the red light's on. The other open secret is the grenade tossed to the shitty teammate with 2 seconds on the shot clock.

I would happily count full seasons. Which one are we counting again?

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Yes it’s obviously wrong to ignore comeback performances. It’s a ridiculous line of thought.

But I’m arguing with the guy who insists second half stats don’t count so I’m trying to make sure we’re all following the rules.

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A bigger lie has never been told.

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It's silly to plac more value in his 4th qtr comebacks than it is the fact that in 8 of his games the Bears have scored 3 points or less in the 1st half. Or that they a avg a league worst 1 point in the 1st Quarter.

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I'm wondering why you profess the sort of love for someone who is the person chiefly responsible for the team performing as abysmally as it has performed

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But the beauty of my view - and you’ll like this part - is that bad first half play is included in full game stats.

So look at a complete performance and you’ll get good & bad. Refuse to acknowledge good 2nd half results and you end up arguing that a game Justin Fields didn’t finish shouldn’t count in his stats because he got hurt in the 3rd quarter.

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I'm a Bears fan first and foremost. And my support of Justin Fields has to do with the belief that they would have been a much better team with him as QB than they are with "Generational Talent" Caleb. And there is nothing irrational about point out that the team is worse off with him as QB when they are in fact worse off. It's actually "irritational" to continually suggest otherwise. Which is what you constantly do on here.

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Not to put down comebacks, but the tire meets the road by what happens after the comeback. You have to give him credit in the GB & Wash game. You give him the blame in the Min & Det game.

So it's a mixed bag in those particular games. Now the other games. First 3 games-bad. Next 3 games-good. The other 4 games not mentioned above-bad.

So, two of the comeback games he screwed the pooch and then 7 complete pooches. And yes, it's not all his fault. He had Hitler for an OC and Mr Accountability for a HC.

The fact remains he has played poorly. More poorly than anticipated. And he has more fundamental problems than what we were lead to believe.

Yep and no matter what any of his flock happens to say, none of them expected this. They were predicting a 9 or 10 win season this year and it looks as if they won't even half right.
Which is why it's oh so necessary for them to blast EVERYONE but Caleb foe the team's failures. EVEN guys with pedigrees that run much deeper than his.

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That coming from a Fields Cultist is objectively hilarious.

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"I firmly believe that Justin Fields would be better on this team than Caleb Williams, and my proof is that hypothetical 2- and 3-year vet Justin Fields has already been out-performed by rookie Caleb Williams in every meaningful stat category kept for QBs."

You thought Yards per game were more "meaningful" than points allowed Caddyshack. Now you're arguing that yards per game are more "meaningful" than points scored. Which renders you to be nothing more than an idiot.

And "the "He's Just A Rookie Thus it's cool for him to suck ass" is also a rather dubious position to take as well but then it is you we're talking about here.

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The Bears were not tanking last season. Fields sucked and couldn't take the next step. Stop with all this tanking excuse. Bears Defense was ranked 12th last year.

https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2023-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats

Bears this year are ranked 24th and getting worse every game.

https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats

Last year was Field's prove it year and he proved he was not the man to move forward with. MANY teams agreed and he ended up a back up in PITT.

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Uh, yes, when comparing QBs I think it's important to compare and contrast the things QBs have more direct influence over like passing statistics rather than things that can be influenced by the running back, defense, and even special teams.



You made the same argument, remember, about a QB in his second year in the league:

Yeah behind a Hall Of Famer who'd be starting over Caleb if he were on the Bears.

And if you are so sure that Justin Fields is nothing but a backup then throw the bread up which says you believe it. We know you won't do that now will ya?

Fact is the Fields is 9-5:in his last 14 games as a starter while Generational Talent Caleb is 4-10.
And while Caleb apologists such as yourself want to tag everyone (now it's the defense) the fact is that the 4-10 record is mostly due to his ineptitude as a QB

No team is going to win MANY games when their QB only throws TDs in 2 out 14 games during the 1st half. As Generational Caleb has.

Or avg 7 points per game during the first half. As Caleb's

And the fact is that the Bears offense last season (with fewer weapons than this year's) was simply better. Thus the "Justin Sucks" thing sounds silly.

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"YES" It's stupid for anyone to suggest that Yards per game outweighs points when it comes to assessing a team's strength or weakness Caddyshack

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Counterpoint: the existence of golf

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Undeterred, LTG takes one of the most easy-mode cases to make in recent NFL history (Caleb Williams is dogshit) and increases its difficult exponentially by introducing this insistence that the Bears would be in the playoffs with nearly-as-bad (or possibly even just-as-bad) Justin Fields.

During the Bears 8 game losing streak the Bears have avg 4 points per game in the first half. But "we" are constantly told by guys that have been wrong every step of the way that Caleb Williams is playing great. Unbelievable.

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