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Bears should at least talk to Curt Cignetti at Indiana.

If he can make successful Indiana's football program, he can help the Bears.

He is currently a head football coach and is about the perfect age at 61.


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I think that there is no evidence that Williams and Fields ceiling realistically is that both have a chance to be a good not great quarterback if a coach can put a decent team in front of them. I think that Pittsburgh kind of proved that in the six game Fields had. I think Williams has that chance also. But neither of these guys have the "IT" factor to be a Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, Manning, Elway, Montana, etc., legendary QB stars. Its one thing if foolish fans like we are duped by media hype and college stats because none of us really know shit about what it takes to put a great team together but team management and owners by definition have to and obviously THE BEARS DO NOT KNOW SHIT ABOUT ANY OF THAT.

Williams has put up a year this year, and he's not been great during parts of it, that Fields can't even dream of having. Fields only good year as an NFL player was as a running back playing QB. The difference is that Williams can throw and Fields can't.

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Fields can't even be trusted to run a play action heavy offense.
If he could he would be the starter.


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I think that there is no evidence that Williams and Fields ceiling realistically is that both have a chance to be a good not great quarterback if a coach can put a decent team in front of them. I think that Pittsburgh kind of proved that in the six game Fields had. I think Williams has that chance also. But neither of these guys have the "IT" factor to be a Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, Manning, Elway, Montana, etc., legendary QB stars. Its one thing if foolish fans like we are duped by media hype and college stats because none of us really know shit about what it takes to put a great team together but team management and owners by definition have to and obviously THE BEARS DO NOT KNOW SHIT ABOUT ANY OF THAT.

Williams has put up a year this year, and he's not been great during parts of it, that Fields can't even dream of having. Fields only good year as an NFL player was as a running back playing QB. The difference is that Williams can throw and Fields can't.

Yeah. Whether Williams will be a generational quarterback or even the best one in his draft class is still very much up for debate (and it doesn't look good), but I think it's clear at this point that he is and will continue to be a better player than Justin Fields.

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Most recent rumor now is Kingsbury. I hope not, I predicted earlier this year it could happen but I hope not. Personally I think he’s a coordinator, that’s what he’s best suited for.


As of now, go get Ben Johnson. He should be their main focus. I have no problem with them doing interviews and talking to people but -Ben needs to be priority #1

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The last line is what we already know, the Bears are considered a joke amongst the rest of the league.

Thomas Brown +800

Given all that is at stake for Poles, Williams and the Bears organization, this isn’t the time to take a chance on Brown, who has been promoted from passing-game coordinator to offensive coordinator to head coach because of dysfunction and failure. However, the ex-player is an engaging speaker and coach, and he has that swagger to him. People gravitate toward him and I could certainly see the Bears promoting him as their Mike Tomlin, especially if he wins a couple of games down the stretch. An NFL executive joked with me that if Brown coaches the Bears to their first Sunday road win since 2021 (seriously, that’s a stat), he’ll get a seven-year deal


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An NFL executive joked with me that if Brown coaches the Bears to their first Sunday road win since 2021 (seriously, that’s a stat), he’ll get a seven-year deal


Well he has one last chance to do it. He needs to hope the Packers will be resting their starters which likely won't happen, even if they have nothing to play for.

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The last line is what we already know, the Bears are considered a joke amongst the rest of the league.

Thomas Brown +800

Given all that is at stake for Poles, Williams and the Bears organization, this isn’t the time to take a chance on Brown, who has been promoted from passing-game coordinator to offensive coordinator to head coach because of dysfunction and failure. However, the ex-player is an engaging speaker and coach, and he has that swagger to him. People gravitate toward him and I could certainly see the Bears promoting him as their Mike Tomlin, especially if he wins a couple of games down the stretch. An NFL executive joked with me that if Brown coaches the Bears to their first Sunday road win since 2021 (seriously, that’s a stat), he’ll get a seven-year deal




lol ok


Brown most likely isn’t even on their actual list of candidates, not anymore anyways

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Thomas Brown: we have Mike Tomlin at home

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Thing is Brown most likely needs to incubate for at least a couple of seasons as an actual coordinator before anyone can seriously consider him. Both stops with the Panthers and Bears saw him shoehorned into the role as it is. He needs to draw up his own plays, and come up with his own game plans against incoming opponents for at least a few years. He hasn’t done any of that yet and I get no impression even from the Bears brass that they have serious interest in him.


I’d be willing to bet both Poles and Warren have their own guys in mind. Warren may have prior to the season but let Poles role with Flus for one more year. Whoever that guy actually is I think we’ll know pretty quickly at seasons end. But it won’t be Brown.

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Thomas Brown: we have Mike Tomlin at home

He's certainly on the actual list of candidates with 3 games to go. Maybe you cross him off tomorrow, but today he's on it.


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Thomas Brown: we have Mike Tomlin at home

He's certainly on the actual list of candidates with 3 games to go. Maybe you cross him off tomorrow, but today he's on it.




He’ll get a pat on the back and an exit interview to satisfy the ‘Rooney rule’ so they can move quickly on whoever they really want. Nothing more than that. But like I said -it’s more than likely they’ve already got a guy or two in mind that aren’t in the building currently. Don’t be surprised if one of them is Kingsbury.



It’s also worth noting Poles could still be on notice or possibly even step down on his own which changes the dynamic a bit. If Warren is behind his exit it will be telling who he brings in 1st -coach candidate or GM candidate.



But they’ve definitely already made their mind up on Brown. You’ll see that in a few weeks.

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Nardi wrote:
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Thomas Brown: we have Mike Tomlin at home

He's certainly on the actual list of candidates with 3 games to go. Maybe you cross him off tomorrow, but today he's on it.


Lose a close one against the Lions, somehow beat Seattle and not get blown out by GB and he can start picking out new office furniture.

Just what the Bears want, a happy to be here coach at a happy to be here price.


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Brick wrote:
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I think that there is no evidence that Williams and Fields ceiling realistically is that both have a chance to be a good not great quarterback if a coach can put a decent team in front of them. I think that Pittsburgh kind of proved that in the six game Fields had. I think Williams has that chance also. But neither of these guys have the "IT" factor to be a Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, Manning, Elway, Montana, etc., legendary QB stars. Its one thing if foolish fans like we are duped by media hype and college stats because none of us really know shit about what it takes to put a great team together but team management and owners by definition have to and obviously THE BEARS DO NOT KNOW SHIT ABOUT ANY OF THAT.

Williams has put up a year this year, and he's not been great during parts of it, that Fields can't even dream of having. Fields only good year as an NFL player was as a running back playing QB. The difference is that Williams can throw and Fields can't.


You are just locked in to overrating Caleb Williams and under-rating Fields. You fail to be rational regarding the abilities of both guys. Both of them have talent but neither have proved to be game changing qbs like the guys I listed above.

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I think that there is no evidence that Williams and Fields ceiling realistically is that both have a chance to be a good not great quarterback if a coach can put a decent team in front of them. I think that Pittsburgh kind of proved that in the six game Fields had. I think Williams has that chance also. But neither of these guys have the "IT" factor to be a Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, Manning, Elway, Montana, etc., legendary QB stars. Its one thing if foolish fans like we are duped by media hype and college stats because none of us really know shit about what it takes to put a great team together but team management and owners by definition have to and obviously THE BEARS DO NOT KNOW SHIT ABOUT ANY OF THAT.

Williams has put up a year this year, and he's not been great during parts of it, that Fields can't even dream of having. Fields only good year as an NFL player was as a running back playing QB. The difference is that Williams can throw and Fields can't.

Yeah. Whether Williams will be a generational quarterback or even the best one in his draft class is still very much up for debate (and it doesn't look good), but I think it's clear at this point that he is and will continue to be a better player than Justin Fields.


I say that is a coin flip. Personally I think it is certainly not clear that Williams is a better player than Fields. He might have a slightly stronger arm but he has not shown that he has good touch on a good percentage of his passes. Fields is certainly a better runner and I think he has a better play action and over-all accuracy on the whole. Personally, I think that Fields would have the Bears with at least two more wins this season.

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Thomas Brown: we have Mike Tomlin at home

He's certainly on the actual list of candidates with 3 games to go. Maybe you cross him off tomorrow, but today he's on it.


Lose a close one against the Lions, somehow beat Seattle and not get blown out by GB and he can start picking out new office furniture.

Just what the Bears want, a happy to be here coach at a happy to be here price.


4-13 season. 11 straight losses. Fire Poles.

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See if you can spot the glaring issues with this 50 second Twitter clip:

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That guy should be singing the Colts fight song.


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That guy should be singing the Colts fight song.

I love that guy

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I love that guy

Four the shoe.


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Let's get real. If you want to hire the best head coaching candidate out there, it's Jon Gruden.

He's exactly what the Bears need---an experienced, superbowl winning head coach with charisma and a winning mentality. And he can do something that other Bears coaches have not been able to do in evaluating and developing young talent.

If the Bears in their false self-righteousness think they are above Gruden or he beneath them, then they should look at their record since 2006 and count the number of their playoff appearances.

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He's a weirdo. Knock on wood if you're with me.


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Let's get real. If you want to hire the best head coaching candidate out there, it's Jon Gruden.

He's exactly what the Bears need---an experienced, superbowl winning head coach with charisma and a winning mentality. And he can do something that other Bears coaches have not been able to do in evaluating and developing young talent.

If the Bears in their false self-righteousness think they are above Gruden or he beneath them, then they should look at their record since 2006 and count the number of their playoff appearances.

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What young QB has he developed?


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If they wouldn’t consider Harbaugh, they sure as hell aren’t hiring Gruden.

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Gruden is on the Barstool payroll now.

The Bears can’t compete with that.

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Thomas Brown: we have Mike Tomlin at home

He's certainly on the actual list of candidates with 3 games to go. Maybe you cross him off tomorrow, but today he's on it.


Based on what? The players quit on him from his first day as head coach and the offense still can't score in the 1st Quarter. Give me Joe Brady and lets go! Don't think the Bears have the intelligence to hire B.Johnson.

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He's a weirdo.




Which one.. Rube or Chucky?



Or both..?

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If they wouldn’t consider Harbaugh, they sure as hell aren’t hiring Gruden.




Gruden wasn’t changing lives in Oakland not sure why anyone would be high on him today. It didn’t end well in Tampa either for that matter..

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If they wouldn’t consider Harbaugh, they sure as hell aren’t hiring Gruden.




Gruden wasn’t changing lives in Oakland not sure why anyone would be high on him today. It didn’t end well in Tampa either for that matter..


Yup, cannot see Chuckie having any tolerance for George and Kevin, and if Kevin is intimidated by Harbaugh he would need to have depends on when he encountered Chuckie, not gonna happen.

Seems Vrabel would have the same lack of tolerance for BS, would love to be a fly on the wall in the interview room during his initial meeting with the Bears...."Braintrust".

It will be a younger first-time coach that will unknowingly accept certain conditions, or an odd retread guy George thinks is a genius, that's been his mindset for the past couple of decades and that is why the team is now consistently at the bottom of the league.


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