He also isn't throwing MANY touchdowns either. That is unless he happens to play bums like the Jags and the Panthers

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Stay on topic. This is about the idea that it's good if Williams throws interceptions.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I know Brick McCarver with Hussra's essential point (which you continuously troll about senselessly) being that with more ints would come more touchdowns because Caleb would be taking more risks in the passing game
Well he hasn't thrown Ints in recent weeks (which you think is pretty damn great) but he also hasn't thrown touchdowns either. He can only throw TDs versus shitty defenses. Which isn't all that "great" when you really think about it.

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I have no reason to debate a completely different point about this. Even Hussra has all but admitted it was a flawed point but yet you seem to want to pick up on it.

But yes, it would be better if Williams was throwing more touchdowns The Doctor Of Dumb Arguments.

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The Bolded Portion LITERALLY means he hasn't "admitted" anything McCarver
And considering that Caleb Williams isn't throwing neither touchdowns or ints currently, it makes Hussra's original point all the more valid

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I'm not getting into another session with The Doctor Of Dumb Arguments. Touchdowns good!

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You trolling a guy that has a valid point is the essence of Brivk McCarver. But don't worry as I have far more bullets in my clip regarding all of the dumb stuff you've been saying. After all I kept receipts McCarver

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Good to hear. I hope it's more interesting than this discussion.

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Time to start cashing in some of these receipts once again!

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So I predicted the HC, and O-line would be issues and the rookie QB would have ups and downs.. ya got me bud.


Good job.


And I’ll take the hit on the 9 wins prediction. Go ahead and run with it. 3 outta 4 ain’t bad.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

So if you had all of these "question marks" why did you still predict 9 wins? Just Asking A Question

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The Bears could finish in last place by NINE games -- I don't think that has happened in NFL history, even with teams that were winless.

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Pretty convenient that you started this thread without offering up a prediction of your own but want to come back and play ‘gotcha’ with people that did.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

It doesn't make you courageous because you had a terrible take. And I did say that I believed they win fewer than 8 wins.

And each and every prediction that you have made about this season has blown up on you.

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Maybe not. It does make you cowardly for trying to come in here and mic drop it after not putting up your own thoughts on the topic in your own thread tho.





I don't see that anywhere in your OP.





So me predicting that the Bears coaching would be a problem, the O-line could be bad, and a rookie QB would struggle or have ups and and downs has 'blown up on me'?


lol ok.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

If you predict that they would win 9 games and they only win.4 then its clear that your prediction has "blown up" on you.

And your prediction that Eberflus and Waldron were terrible coaches has also blown up on you. The Bears have been much worse since both were whacked.

And it's tough to proclaim Waldron as a problem when his previous 2 years he coached Geno Smith to the best 2 years of his career.

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Not tough at all when you consider he had his hand held in Seattle by a HoF level head coach in Pete Carroll.. and its worth noting that Geno is still performing at a high level and putting up numbers this year too without Waldron.



And lol at you claiming that some of the coaches I claimed were the problem getting whacked in season while on a losing streak makes me wrong somehow. That’s some Special Olympic gold medal level mental gymnastics you got going on there bud

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Pro tip: When it comes to sports the team shouldn't perform much worse after a coach is whacked if he is the PRIMARY problem associated with the team
Eberflus is a defensive coach whose defense was top 10 in points allowed when he was fired. Tough to argue that he was the main problem associated with the team. Which is what you have been stating mostly as a way of providing cover for how terrible Caleb Williams happens to be

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I think this stupid "you are a really bad predictor" discussion is stupid. Especially when someone never makes a prediction oneself. The reality of what happened is all that counts and the fact is that the Bears were just outright failures across virtually every assessment of the actual performance of the football team. Trying to now make Eberflus and Waldron into good coaches and Geno Smith into a good NFL qb defies realism about what actually happened.

The overwhelming "TRUTH" that has to be ratified is that the entire Chicago Bear's organization fucked up last season big time. the ownership fucked up, the President fucked up and his hiring of Poles and Poles down through to Eberflush through his position coaches were fucked up.

The additional TRUTH is that the Chicago Bear's have got to own up to but they never will, is that they have not had an idea of how to build a successful football organization ever since Papa Bear departed after hiring Ditka. Its just a fact of life.

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Well since we’re exchanging ‘pro tips’ I’ll leave you with one..


When claiming someone is wrong about everything don’t point out something they were right about and claim they were wrong about it.


Just because the Bears continue to be bad after Eberflus gets whacked doesn’t mean Eberflus wasn’t bad or part of the problem.


Also, you should recall that while I wanted Eberflus fired after last year and after this year.. I was not in favor of firing him mid season. Your biggest fan boy ‘Xe They Them’ even tried setting bait over me saying it was the wrong thing to do.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Another Pro Tip: Until they actually start playing better it's silly to continuously state that Eberflus was the main problem. Particularly given the fact that the Very same Eberflus was able to win 3 more games with QBs that guys here will tell you are much worse than the current one.

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Pro tip for your pro tip: it’s actually factually incorrect to claim I said Eberflus is the ‘main problem’ -Ryan Poles is a bigger problem because he hired him, and the McCaskeys are the biggest problem because they own the team and hire everyone.


Eberlose was just one of the problems. There are organizational problems that are bigger than him or anyone on the team that have existed long before they all got here.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

The Bears are 3 games worse than last year with the only major change being Caleb Williams. It's safe to say where a great deal of the blame lies. You won't because you are in the tank for Caleb. However the numbers don't lie. They are currently on a 10 game losing streak with his play being huge reason for the streak.

You are going to win many games when your offense avg 14 ppg. Or has multiple games in which you fail to score during the 1st Half

Statistically and eyetest Caleb Williams has been one of the of the worst QBs in the league this season

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Well another major change was hiring an offensive coordinator that didn’t even script opening plays and leaving him in charge of your rookie QB’s development.. while passing on another OC (Kingsbury) that has gone on to help develop another rookie QB quite successfully.


So we’re back to pointing out that systemic problems (that do include the bad Head Coach) were present and active in this entire process going to shit.


The team also (again under Poles and Eberflus watchful eyes) had to fire coaches/coordinators in season yet again which contributes to the poor performance from players on the field. I’m not sure why you’re pushing back on some of this as if it doesn’t play into a teams success or failure but maybe you really don’t actually understand that it does.


As for being out on Caleb? No, I’ve already told you (and a few others) I’m giving this part more time. If we get into say year 3 and he’s still showing the same issues as year 1 (ie accuracy issues, holding on to the ball too long) then the conversation changes -regardless of coaching.


I gave these same opportunities to both Mitch and Justin.. however unlike you I’m able to admit at some point they have to move on like they did with Fields most recently. But I didn’t come to that conclusion until I saw that Justin was not showing much improvement as a passer over a period of years.


You’re the one that’s actually married to a player in Justin Fields and jaded by the fact the team moved on from him when it clearly wasn’t working out. That’s you, not me.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

The majority of Bears fans in this city must have also been married because they wanted him to stay too..And there is nothing which Generational Caleb has done thus city which would change their opinion. Nor should it.

Caleb has sucked ass this season. Your constant excuse making notwithstanding.

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Pointing out ‘other Bears fans’ had bad takes about a Justin Fields who was showing little improvement as a passer over several years doesn’t mean the right move was to keep him.


Your response here also highlights my point that you’re jaded and struggling to move on from a mediocre Justin Fields making many of your criticisms of Caleb suspect in the face of your emotional attachment to last years QB.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

I'm a Bears fan first. And the fact remains that until proven otherwise he gave them the better chance to win. This is what most every metric imaginable suggests.

And The Caleb Rookie argument just seems more like ass covering more than anything. If you truly believed that he was going to struggle as much as he has then you would not have predicted that the Bears would win 9 games this season.

You obviously believed that he would be a significant upgrade over Fields and he obviously has not. Which is the main reason that they have only won 4 games this season. Not Eberflus. Not Poles. Not Waldron. Not anyone. Him

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