I swear to all things holy if they hire that fat fuck...

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lol I may have cursed us further by speaking it into existence a few weeks ago. It just seems like some shit the Family would do.


But tbh, I also don’t think it will happen. I think it’s Ben Johnson, Vrabel, Kingsbury (not what I want).. and unfortunately I do think Caroll is in there too. Pete would be fine if he were 63 but at 73..?


But I think those are most likely the Bears top targets. There’s info out there saying Johnson’s making the Bears his 1st stop when he’s available for an interview.. that could be looked at as good or bad.


Also, unfortunately I don’t think they’ll part ways with Poles. It makes no sense to keep him based off all the bad he’s accumulated but I just don’t think this stupid organization will do what’s right.. and that could hamstring them in this search.

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I've kind of warmed up to the idea of Carroll. Then I remember he's the one who first identified Waldron.

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Despite the DEI jokes, I don't see the McCaskey's hiring someone suing the NFL. Woke as they may be, a team that wouldn't let Hard Knocks show any swear words won't have the stomach to bring that kind attention to The Shield. The Raiders? Sure. The Bears aren't going to rock the boat.

(Insert WWE The Shield picture)

He knows how to make the Packers lose at least.

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With Poles @Halas Hall ,Flores is the path of least resistance for Warren and Poles.
They both like him.
I think it's enough to ovecome his baggage.
With in-demand guys the Bears have to sell themselves to the guy,not the other way around.
Florrs would be happy to have the chance.

Flores isn't a terrible choice but you make others say no first.

But, I also find it hard to believe that the next head coach isn't an offensive coach.

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If they let other coaches say no then they will continue to be looked at as a 2nd rate organization when they move on to their 3rd or 4th choice. The Bears should target the best young offensive coordinator and make him an offer he can’t refuse. I also think any of the retreads mentioned (Carroll, McCarthy, Belichick, Gruden, etc.) or a DC would be a mistake.

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You cannot beat an offer that includes Joe Burrow though. That’s the problem, the Bears are not competitive.

I am interpreting these reports of Ben Johnson demanding not to work with Poles as a proxy battle to wrestle organizational control from Warren. Also that he doesn’t want to be shackled to Caleb Williams. I think once he gets formally interviewed by a panel of women and diversity hires he’s probably just going to go to Cincinnati or Jacksonville. Having to bend the knee to Tanesha Wade isn’t worth it.

Calling the Bears a 2nd rate organization may be the nicest thing anybody has said about the Bears in months.

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I've loss all interest in caring what the Bears do here....the end result will be the same. Garbage.

Warren and Poles have both respectively shown they need to be part of the house cleaning....it won't happen.

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I mean if Ben Johnson chooses another place there isn't much you can do. If it's just about firing Poles then send Poles packing. I'd rather have Kingsbury than Flores but I don't think you break the bank for Kingsbury who went 35-40 at Texas Tech and then 28-37-1 at Arizona before being fired at both.

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I also don't see Flores having the least resistance when the biggest part of his job will be working with Williams after Tua torched him publicly.

Guaranteed money tops all. For one thing, Burrow has had injury issues in the past and considering the position he plays and his limited mobility, likely will in the future. I also think you underrate the outside view of Caleb in terms of what he can become with proper coaching. Finally, Cincinnati is a boring cultureless dump of a city. If the coach in question has a wife they will push for Chicago.

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If the coach is a white guy in football, odds are he and his wife are conservative evangelical weirdos and will be perfectly happy in some McMansion halfway to Dayton. St. Louis and Cincinnati are basically the same place, and NHL players love St. Louis because you can fuck off to wealthy suburbs and never be bothered.

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When the betting markets on this open back up and if Poles is still there ( obviously he shouldn't be)I'm going to bet on Flores.....to me it's a Bears-like hire.

First of all, I don’t think it’s fair to generalize about an entire group like that. Secondly, we know all hockey players are racist so that part makes sense.

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He’s the best football player in the world right now. Early thirties of the prime of the prime for NFL quarterbacks, and he particularly keeps getting better. It’s a no-brainer, you get the ring and you get the glory and the long career that comes with those things.

Or you follow in the footsteps of Matt Nagy.

As compared to the coaching dynasty that has been Bengals football.

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Matt Nagy has won 2 Super Bowls since leaving the Bears, hard to top that!

Bengals have been in two AFC Championship Games and one Super Bowl in the last four years. If they fire Zac Taylor that job is the closest thing there is to guaranteed success for a new coach.

Speaking of which, how would you feel about Rex Ryan?

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keeping Poles is the same mistake as keeping Flus was last year

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Nicely done.

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Not to be flip or anything, but if you are an established NFL Head Coach why would you to step into this particular situation?

At the present time this is obviously Caleb Williams team. And it's clear from this past season that Caleb has the stroke to get coaches fired. If you are an established coach with any semblance of a pedigree, do you really want to come into a situation where you have to coach a Diva QB who hasn't accomplished anything yet still has the ear of management/ownership?

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Eberflus without Williams: 10-24
Eberflus with Williams: 4-8.

Williams didn't get Eberflus fired any more than Fields did.

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Nah guy. He got fired while "coaching" Caleb. Not Fields. And Waldron never coached Fields but I'm sure you still believe that he got Waldron fired too.

And what established Head Coach will want to coach a QB that may not be all that coachable? The Bears only option might be someone that is a thirsty assistant who's looking to be a Head Coach

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The most glamorous HC job in the game right now belongs to a fat boomer in the dead center of the country.

I’d generally agree that the opportunity to coach Burrow would outstrip anything the Bears can offer. But I don’t think Taylor’s gone.

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