No one is coming to the Bears with Pace as the GM.

Washington has professional coaches and GM.
Chicago has an offensive assistant as their head coach and a GM who doesn't believe in Offensive or Defensive line play.

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Bears also.have one of the least accurate QBs of the past 25 years captaining their ship!

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Again empty stats. Caleb has the 7th most passing attempts in the league, yet 24th in avg passing yards.per game

Tied with about 6 other QBs for 15th in TDs. Many if not all of those tied with him having far fewer passing attempts.

He is the essence of "empty stats"

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TDs are now meaningless if you throw too much to get them? I thought points were all that mattered?

They do and the Caleb led Bears are 29th in Avg point per game at 18 per. But of course avg points per game on offense really doesn't tell ya much about the "effectiveness" of an offense does it? Just Asking A Question

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It's almost like the QB is the most important player on the offense, but not the only one.

As an "All World" QB he should be the "most important" on offense. Or else how could he ever be considered "All World"? Just Asking A Question

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That's literally what I said, Radio. Caleb Williams is the most important offensive player on the Bears. He is not, however, the only one.

But now it's all about the "ensemble". Since when Hartgrove?

What's apparent to anyone whose likely residence isn't a padded cell is that the Bears "ensembled cast" in 2024 is much better than it was in 2023 Hartgrove. And yet the production across the board has been worse. When you "upgrade" to an "All World" talent, that is never supposed to happen

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I did not say it's "all" about the supporting cast. The largest bulk of importance is placed on the QB, this is my 3rd time saying it, maybe this time you'll understand. You realize "ensemble" meant to prevents sacks of the QB has allowed 17 more sacks in 2024 with one game to go than the same effort through all of 2023?

Hmmm it seems to me that everyone plays an "important" role in the failures of the Bears offense except "All World" Caleb Hartgrove. That seems rather deranged given his level of ineffectiveness
Hey Hartgrove what excuses do you have for Caleb "All World" Williams being one of the least accurate passers of the past 25 years on passes 10 yards or more?

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You know, CH was right when he mentioned 5 different bears threads being hijacked to the point of being indistinguishable. Do you have something new to add?

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Damn all you dudes do is fucking whine about everything like women. In fact most women don't whine as often as some of you testerone challenged motherfuckers

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So what White Sox equivalent hire will this stupid organization hire?

Then of course will fire Poles in 12 months and make the new GM keep this hire.

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Perhaps you could post what coach you would like in the future coach thread instead of whining.

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Flores. Book it.

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Perhaps you can go suck a dick and stop whining about what another man happens to be doing with his thoughts. How about that. As stated previously, most women don't whine as often as some of you motherfuckers

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It’s sounding more and more like they don’t even plan on talking to Vrabel and Jags might be willing to do whatever it takes to land Johnson so Flores might indeed be the guy. If Poles is planning on pulling another ‘this is my guy I don’t need to talk to anyone else’ the Bears need to promptly tell him to pack up his shit and get the fuck out. It’s just more repeating of shit that hasn’t worked. They need to snap out of it.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Flores is such a bad candidate too.. performs mediocre at his last HC spot, his locker room revolts on him because he’s an insufferable prick forcing the front office to go another direction, then he turns around and sues the NFL because ‘racism’


Doesn’t mean he can’t become a good HC eventually but there’s too many red flags as well as straight up evidence he’s nothing special as a Head Coach. If anything the Bears should be using the ‘Ryan Poles is connected to this guy’ as a way to rule people out, not bring them in.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

The Poles approach is outdated, good teams see a need for solid interior line play and the need for a power run game to keep the D honest. Ryan Poles thinks we are in a seven on seven league where you just need DBs and WRs.

Seeing this in college as the teams with big and ugly lineman are shoving around the 8 star recruit guys, ask coach prime how that feels.

This requires a GM to be able to find guys that are big and physical, now these guys will not look like Edmunds or Claypool, but they are essential if you want to win football games.

Does anyone really believe that Ryan Poles is capable of signing and drafting a half dozen of these guys this offseason?

Just ignore him. My board life has been better since Jan 1st.

Thought DOS would be the first person in my posting history (joined in 2006) that I put on ignore. But when I added him to my list I found that it was my second ignore in my history.

The first was..... Long Time Guy

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Has a Super Bowl winning team ever used Poles approach? I can't remember any team ignoring the lines and winning.

Plenty of teams have always focused on Offense or Defense first but never, "let's build the secondary, draft the skill players and we will ignore both sides of the line. Even when Poles did address the line with Darnell Wright, he picked a guard for RT and believed he outsmarted everyone by drafting B.Jones for LT in the 5th Round.

Choosing a punter over a center for his prize 1st overall pick in the 4th round is criminal and he should be fired just for that alone.

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As stated some of you dudes whine like women. If Caleb Williams was ballin out all you goofies would be piling on like crazy right about now. Hell some of you still do it even as he has shitted the bed. Could you imagine if he were looking anything like the "Generational Talent" that you clowns repeatedly claimed him to be? Rather than just admit you were wrong and take your medicine as a REAL MAN would, you proceed to whine about someone shitting up threads.

The vast majority of you clowns actively seek conflict out with me with all of your pile on, sophomoric, internet bullshit then start bitching about "toxicity" regarding myself when the shit goes left for ya. That's you clowns problem because had you never engaged in your pile on ad hominem B.S. in the first place, then the interactions would never have gone the way that it has in the first place. It's the same whiny, "victim" bullshit that MANY people here have engaged in since I began posting here years ago. And let me clear. It's not everyone. There are a lot of stand alone guys that never engage in that kiddy, frathouse bullshit.

And celebratory proclamations about "placing someone on ignore" though not quite ignoring them because you constantly reference them is the stuff that children do actually.

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There is definitely some personal component to it. LTG and I have been thoroughly vindicated the last ten weeks. Look back to Carolina and the London game, you guys were doing some serious gloating…now it’s just desperate and whiny.

The national narrative has turned. People do it as diplomatically as possible because Caleb Williams is in a uniquely protected demographic and was clearly seen as a the league as a golden child to appeal to the alphabet people, but the ship has really sailed.

You don’t come back from how bad he’s been. Even if he were to improve dramatically he’d still be far from acceptable.

Jared Goff did.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Quarterbacking is hard. The majority that come in can't do it at all. Some can hang on a bit. Some take 4 or 5 or 6 years to figure it out and a tiny tiny few figure it out within a couple years. You roll what you think is a 7 and and then some fucker like Lamar or Purdy or Hurts smokes you. You get rid of Goff and Darnold and Mayfield and then they smoke you. It also helps if you have an offensive genius coach, but those guys don't grow on trees either. Rough business.

Yep. I want them to go for an offensive minded coach that has had success an NFL head coaxh. McCarthy or Gruden would work for me. If not that then a hot shot assistant that was previously an offensive coordinator.

Johnson or Joe Brady would work.

They definitely need an offensive minded head coach.

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So has Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield.

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Baker Mayfield broke the record for rookie touchdowns in a season on what fucking planet is Caleb Williams having a season on that level?

But if Caleb Williams has the career arc of Goff or Darnold tell me what that does for the Bears?